Sequoia, iOS 18, iPadOS 18, etc.

Apple surprised most observers by releasing new versions of all its operating systems in late September. For our October 15, 2024 meeting, we demonstrated some of the features of this tidal wave of software.

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18:31:10 Yeah, I was trying to see if it was showing closed captioning.
18:31:14 We have some people who find that useful.
18:31:17 It's also entertaining sometimes when it gets a word completely wrong.
18:31:21 I've said some strange things according to closed captioning.
18:31:29 Our first question of the question and answer session today was, why is Greg's screen rotated sideways and I don't have an answer to that.
18:31:41 If it was an iPhone, quite often that happens when you have the
18:31:45 phone location locked.
18:31:49 And if you're
18:31:51 don't unlock it. It can be sideways but
18:31:54 He's using a MacBook, so I'm not really sure what the
18:31:56 I just never had this happen with it.
18:32:00 Hmm.
18:32:01 A long time.
18:32:02 That's right side up.
18:32:04 It's the Ides of October. Things are strange.
18:32:09 Anybody have any questions?
18:32:12 I have one, Lawrence.
18:32:14 From time to time, photos will generate memories. You know, they'll pick out a particular day and then they scroll through
18:32:22 But they seem to go so fast. I mean, they're like on and off in a second. Is there any way to adjust the time
18:32:29 on that when they show those previews or those little video cuts.
18:32:35 You can actually download the videos if you click on one, you can say to download it.
18:32:41 And when you download it, then you can play at any speed you want.
18:32:46 Quite often it's based upon the music that's playing and you can also
18:32:50 Click on it and change the music.
18:32:54 It's clever how they've done it, but it's not
18:32:58 necessarily useful. Like I had my granddaughter lives in
18:33:02 England, she's half British and half US citizen.
18:33:08 And it had her out in the field
18:33:12 gathering flowers in england
18:33:14 And it picked a country western tune to play.
18:33:17 And so I changed the music to something more appropriate to some girl going through a
18:33:24 a meadow in England.
18:33:26 So you can make changes to it.
18:33:30 But, um.
18:33:31 I don't remember exactly how you do it. I think you click
18:33:35 You right click your mouse on the video and you can
18:33:39 Select different things. I don't remember exactly.
18:33:42 It comes.
18:33:41 I've done it lots of times, but I don't remember how I did it.
18:33:46 photos just automatically generates it and all of a sudden you see it and it goes and it's got their music
18:33:52 Yes.
18:33:52 They'll pick a day or something out of some occasion or something.
18:33:55 Yeah. Yeah. It actually does a really nice job but
18:33:59 Oh, I like it. I think it's great.
18:34:01 You can change it.
18:34:02 You can change the music, you can change the video, you can change the
18:34:07 images that it's using to
18:34:10 Include in the video. It does take some playing around and I just off the top of my head, I just don't remember.
18:34:18 what those things are.
18:34:19 or how to do it.
18:34:23 I use it on both my iPhone, my
18:34:27 iPad and the Mac and they have different controls
18:34:30 Depending upon what you're using.
18:34:34 It's like today.
18:34:36 They came up with a picture of my niece.
18:34:39 And her…
18:34:40 her son six years ago.
18:34:43 The sun right now is almost as tall as I am.
18:34:49 What kind of a surprise.
18:34:51 Yeah.
18:34:53 Any other questions?
18:34:55 Yeah, so I have a, this is an open question for anybody who can answer
18:34:59 I'm using Apple's free sports app.
18:35:03 And I have set as a default notification sound in settings
18:35:09 You know, if you don't pick a particular one for an app.
18:35:12 I have the choo-choo sound because it's
18:35:15 unique well
18:35:18 Apparently, I'm still on 14.7, or I mean 17.7 on my iPad. I haven't upgraded yet to 18.
18:35:27 And the controls, when I look at apples
18:35:31 their support document for how to do whatever you're supposed to do, follow a team, for example, so that you get a notification when there's some
18:35:38 when there's a score, for example.
18:35:42 And it tells me that i can
18:35:44 look at the sports app.
18:35:47 you know in the app list and settings and turn notifications on or off and choose a sound
18:35:52 But there isn't any such choice
18:35:56 in seventeen seven and i'm wondering if
18:35:58 that's changed under 18.
18:36:01 The settings are not in the app itself. The settings are you go to system
18:36:07 System settings, and then it's got a list of the apps and then you pick off the app
18:36:12 within system settings and you can do different things to it like for example
18:36:17 I want the camera.
18:36:19 app on my iPhone to always shoot in camera rob it's the highest resolution that you can get.
18:36:25 And I don't want it to ask me all the time whether I want to do that. So I just went in there and set that as the default.
18:36:31 But you don't do that in the camera app itself. You do that in system settings and then it has a long list of the apps. Find the app you want.
18:36:41 Click on it and it'll tell you what you can customize.
18:36:44 And how to do it.
18:36:44 Well, I was asking whether that's different between 17.7 and 18 because
18:36:50 what Apple support documents suggest should be there or isn't on mine.
18:36:55 It also suggested there should be a control in the app itself
18:36:58 Which doesn't appear on mine.
18:37:01 Well, I don't have the sports app, I don't think.
18:37:12 So…
18:37:13 No, I don't have that, so I don't.
18:37:17 I don't…
18:37:17 Hmm.
18:37:18 I don't know.
18:37:18 So nobody in our group but me wants to be notified when something happens in the
18:37:24 in the baseball
18:37:25 run up to the World Series or in any of the college football games or any of the NFL games or
18:37:31 Hockey's now started. NBA is starting up.
18:37:37 So you can follow select teams, you know, your favorite teams and then we'll
18:37:41 Yeah.
18:37:41 It'll make a noise no matter what you're doing elsewhere you know the notification noise
18:37:47 Which supposedly you're able to choose, although I can't. So it played the default one
18:37:52 Although I…
18:37:53 Well, if you go into settings.
18:37:58 Notifications.
18:38:00 And then under notifications, it's got
18:38:03 It's got every single app that you have on your phone and you pick
18:38:07 whatever that particular app can do in terms of notifications and
18:38:11 You can have sounds and whatnot.
18:38:15 I'm not used to seeing it
18:38:19 being able to pick the sound
18:38:23 I've never…
18:38:24 Most of them let you do that
18:38:30 Okay.
18:38:31 But see, it doesn't even show up.
18:38:34 it doesn't show up in that
18:38:36 list of apps under notifications.
18:38:40 Okay.
18:38:39 And I think it should, but that's why I was wondering if
18:38:42 If it did in 18.
18:38:46 Well, I'm on 18 and I don't have the sports app, so I can't. I have half of your answer, but I don't have the whole part.
18:38:54 Okay, thanks.
18:38:57 The one I've been playing with most recently is…
18:39:01 Apple has for the iPhone classical
18:39:05 app so you can play classical music. You can play it on the music.
18:39:08 But the classical music is limited to just
18:39:11 classical music. And I've been having great fun playing with that and i'm
18:39:16 I'm sorely disappointed that they don't have that on the iPad or the
18:39:21 Mac, because…
18:39:22 I have better speakers on those than I do on my
18:39:27 The phone, you know, it's a it's a phone
18:39:35 Are you playing with the 16?
18:39:38 No, my spouse has the 16, but I don't.
18:39:42 I played with it.
18:39:45 To the extent that I set it up for her.
18:39:47 And I wanted to see how the camera did things.
18:39:51 So I took about a dozen photographs of the tablecloth
18:39:55 Where I was setting it up.
18:39:59 Playing around with the um
18:40:02 essentially the macro features to
18:40:07 look at the threads in the tablecloth.
18:40:10 not a terribly useful thing to do, but it was midnight so
18:40:16 I was short.
18:40:17 I think a number of us would be interested in hearing your take on how useful that button is
18:40:22 the camera button thing.
18:40:24 The camera button, again, I played with that briefly because I was setting it up.
18:40:30 And it took me by surprise because
18:40:34 I had read about it, but I wasn't paying that much attention.
18:40:38 And if you slide your finger sideways on the camera button, it will change the magnification.
18:40:46 Now, the magnification is really set.
18:40:49 It's a fixed magnification on the machine.
18:40:53 But if you go from like the 5x down to the
18:40:59 2.5x or whatever the next one is. You can do that just by sliding it.
18:41:05 And on that particular camera, depending upon what setting you have, it'll actually change the lens. It's transparent.
18:41:13 To you, you don't know how it's pulling off this magic, but it's
18:41:17 It'll change the lens. And it's a clever way to do it because
18:41:22 In the past, I don't like taking pictures on cameras that don't have a viewfinder. And an iPhone does not have a viewfinder. When you have to take a photograph, you have to hold it up like this. And it's really difficult to take a still picture when you're holding it away from your body. If you have a viewfinder camera, it's up close to you and you're making a triangle with your
18:41:44 eyes and with your elbows
18:41:46 And it's much, much steadier. And I've never really liked taking pictures with an iPhone, but I've taken hundreds of thousands of pictures with an iPhone because it's with me.
18:41:56 So the viewfinder issue
18:42:00 is important with it that they don't have a viewfinder.
18:42:04 And if you combine the fact that you don't have a viewfinder with the fact that the camera controls
18:42:10 are on this thing that you're holding out in front of you if you want to switch the magnification, it's just really, really awkward. So having it in that slide function on the camera button, the dedicated back camera button.
18:42:22 Again, I only played with it around midnight when I was setting it up, but I think that could be
18:42:29 a real win in terms of
18:42:31 the functionality of the of the
18:42:34 phone as a camera.
18:42:37 I was startled at how much I liked it. But again, it was midnight. I was sleep deprived and it's my spouse's
18:42:45 It's my spouse's phone. It's not mine.
18:42:49 We trade off who's upgrading their phone
18:42:53 And hers was the oldest one so
18:42:55 She got the new iPhone pro and um
18:42:59 The other thing about it, she has an older one. The new one
18:43:04 It's roughly the same size, but because the border around the screen goes right out to the edge.
18:43:10 you see more. And you might think that won't amount to much, but I was reading a book on it and
18:43:18 The nice thing about an iPhone is it's roughly the size of a small paperback. And with a 16 Pro Max.
18:43:29 It's easier to read.
18:43:32 There are more words on a page that's easier. If you're a fast reader, readers don't read word by word. They read by shapes. And if there are more words on the page, you can read faster.
18:43:43 And it's more comfortable so
18:43:46 In my…
18:43:48 two hours of setting it up.
18:43:51 Mostly because Verizon is a
18:44:00 Uh-oh.
18:44:00 But with using it as a
18:44:00 That's what Verizon is, huh?
18:44:01 Yeah.
18:44:02 You froze.
18:44:04 Thank you.
18:44:22 Well…
18:44:22 He's froze again.
18:44:22 And I complain about AT&T.
18:44:22 Bryson's pretty good at my house.
18:44:25 store where you find out that the Verizon store in town isn't even owned by Verizon. They're a bunch of contractors who
18:44:31 quite often don't know nearly as much about the equipment as you do.
18:44:34 You don't have to worry about that.
18:44:34 You've been gone for like a minute and a half
18:44:38 I'm sorry?
18:44:39 you've been gone for about a minute or a minute and a half.
18:44:42 Oh, sorry about that.
18:44:46 The…
18:44:47 It's those contractors.
18:44:49 Yeah, the contractors that are at the Verizon store do not work for Verizon. They work as their…
18:44:56 They were hired out to a company and
18:44:59 Quite often they don't know as much about the phone as you do.
18:45:03 And having the eSIM that you have on the new phones and being able to make a transition from an old phone
18:45:10 to a new phone in your own home without having to go downtown and
18:45:15 wait for them and then wait for them to figure out how to do it and then wait for them to call around to other people to ask how to do it.
18:45:23 That's nice.
18:45:25 But it's still…
18:45:28 Verizon throws some…
18:45:30 At one point i had to have
18:45:32 Kathleen's old phone, Kathleen's new phone, plus my phone because it sent a verification
18:45:38 message to my phone because I was the one who set up the account.
18:45:42 I kept on trying to find the verification message on her phone.
18:45:45 Couldn't find it anywhere. So I open up my phone. There it is
18:45:50 That's
18:45:51 annoying, but I got it done.
18:45:54 And I just didn't have as much time to play with the machine as I would have liked.
18:45:59 What I saw, I was impressed and the
18:46:02 And the camera button, I did not expect to be impressed and i was
18:46:07 Surprised.
18:46:08 What does Kathleen say about that button?
18:46:11 Kathleen is very ill and she really hasn't had a chance to play with it. So she's basically
18:46:17 killing off political messages that are showing up and you know
18:46:25 She hasn't done anything really exciting with it.
18:46:29 Hmm.
18:46:33 She is very much looking to the election cycle being over.
18:46:38 And messages that are sent to her
18:46:41 possibly being ones that she wants to read.
18:46:44 Amen.
18:46:48 I can't remember. Oh, it was Stephen Colbert.
18:46:51 His first question to Kamala Harris when she was on his show was, why do you keep on sending me all these text messages?
18:47:03 Which, uh.
18:47:03 I thought was a fantastic first question.
18:47:08 But anyway.
18:47:11 Any other non-political questions?
18:47:15 Thank you.
18:47:16 Can you speak to RCS on the
18:47:20 Ine 18.
18:47:23 Is that…
18:47:24 Apparently, AT&T and Verizon support it
18:47:28 So if you turn it on.
18:47:29 I guess you have to manually, it's not turned on by default apparently
18:47:33 But if you turn it on.
18:47:36 then that means you can use iMessage
18:47:39 to send messages to people who have android
18:47:43 You can send them anyway. The big controversy
18:47:48 has never been sending the messages. The big controversy has been the fact that they don't look the same.
18:47:54 On a Mac, you can do
18:47:56 You can have emojis, you can have emojis, you can send video.
18:48:01 It's not limited by text length. The original SMS was
18:48:07 120 characters? I don't remember what it was.
18:48:09 128, I think.
18:48:13 I don't think it was 128 because that's logical and it was a little bit off.
18:48:18 But anyway, it was it was small.
18:48:19 I think it was 140, wasn't it?
18:48:23 It might be that it was an odd number.
18:48:27 Yeah.
18:48:27 But, um.
18:48:29 A Japanese man figured out a way to put small pictures in, and that's where emoji came from.
18:48:36 The Japanese character set
18:48:38 to graduate from high school, you have to know about 10,000 characters. And the Japanese language is rather complex.
18:48:45 And so he wanted to have things that he wanted to, the instant messaging in Japan was limited to hideana and katakana, which are two character sets that have fewer characters.
18:48:59 total about 40, 50 characters.
18:49:02 And he wanted to use kanji, which has 10,000 characters, and the system simply couldn't support that. So he came up with emoji so he could have
18:49:12 short little comments about things. And that's where Memoji came from. Him using this on an instant messaging service in Japan.
18:49:22 And when Apple added that, a lot of people added it as well. But then Apple have memojis, which are
18:49:29 animated emojis where you can take a drag, there's a dragon, for example, and you can point it at yourself and start talking and the dragon is speaking.
18:49:39 So it follows your mouth and all that sort of stuff.
18:49:42 That really torqued off.
18:49:45 Google, because you can't do that there.
18:49:47 And Mac people were sending PDFs and movies and sounds, all kinds of stuff. And the original messaging protocol didn't support that.
18:49:58 So Google kept on complaining about this. They even set up a website at one time begging Apple
18:50:05 to let them use the same technology, because of course it's Apple's technology
18:50:10 And this new agreement
18:50:14 allows a lot of what you can do on iphone
18:50:17 to work on a work on a
18:50:19 Android. But even then it's severely limited. It basically works on the pixels because the Google pixels are more advanced than most other Android phones. And on some Samsung, but a lot of
18:50:35 A lot of the Androids can't do that. When Apple has an update to an iPhone.
18:50:42 One of the things that Apple did when they started out with iPhone with AT&T and Verizon, and there were three carriers, and I don't remember who they were.
18:50:52 is that they had to, the carriers had to agree in advance that Apple could update the phones because normally at that point and still today, you go into a Verizon store and you buy a Samsung or you buy a HP or whatever phone you might want to happen.
18:51:11 The updates are controlled by the vendor.
18:51:15 So if Verizon doesn't want to update that phone, it doesn't get updated. And you go in and say, well, there's a new operating system out there. And they say, yeah, we've got this new phone that you can buy.
18:51:26 Apple insisted that they be able to update their own phone.
18:51:29 And so that's one reason why there's a huge range of experience in terms of the Android world when a Mac person sends them a message.
18:51:37 And quite often they can't see it. And this new protocol that Apple said it would adopt
18:51:44 is only going to hit a small number of those Android users because only a small number can actually support that protocol. The protocol was developed by Google.
18:51:53 And it's an open source one but um
18:51:57 That doesn't mean that people have phones that are capable of using it.
18:52:01 Oh.
18:52:00 And a lot of that Apple has, like Memojis
18:52:05 You will get a video on the other end.
18:52:08 But that sometimes is a little bit more than your average Android can
18:52:15 The little engine in the
18:52:16 most Andres is a Snapdragon CPU made by
18:52:22 Qualcomm? I don't remember.
18:52:26 And sometimes it just can't do a lot of the things that you can do on an iPhone and
18:52:33 I have been trading messages with my
18:52:36 Nice forever with her Android phone.
18:52:40 And about three or four years ago.
18:52:43 I noticed she started sending me things that looked like they were sent from an iPhone. I asked her about it and her children
18:52:49 basically said, Ma, you work at Costco, just go buy an iPhone.
18:52:53 And she did.
18:52:55 Well, I was mostly interested in how it affects
18:52:58 communicating with Android people on an ipad with wi-fi only
18:53:02 Does it have any effect in that
18:53:04 or it needs to sell
18:53:07 It needs a cellular connection, doesn't it?
18:53:09 Well, this is a little bit
18:53:13 tricky.
18:53:15 On a Mac, when you are on a Mac, on an iphone.
18:53:20 you can send something to someone's email address
18:53:23 Or you can send it to their phone number.
18:53:25 If you send it to the phone number, it can only go to a phone.
18:53:29 In fact, even though there's a phone in an iPad, you can't send it to that iPad's phone number. That phone number is just used for their accounting purposes. It doesn't actually
18:53:39 It can't be independently addressed.
18:53:41 So if you send it to the phone number, that's the only place it's going to go. So in my address book, I have it set up so that when I send it to my daughter in England, it doesn't try to go through the British phone system, which has these ridiculously long phone numbers anyway.
18:53:58 it goes to her email address. When I send it to my
18:54:02 My son-in-law goes to his email address. When I send it to my niece, it goes to her there, her email address. The only people who I send it to phones are things like doctor's offices and businesses.
18:54:16 But otherwise, I send it to the email address because the email address, they can read it on a phone, they can read it on their desktop, they can read it on iPad. They can read it pretty much anywhere.
18:54:26 But if you send it to a phone number, the only way they can read it is on a phone. And it doesn't make any difference if you're on Wi-Fi or not.
18:54:34 The limitation is not the Wi-Fi. The limitation is what
18:54:39 is the address that you're using. And if the address is a phone number
18:54:43 You have to send it from a phone and it's only going to be received on a phone.
18:54:49 I shouldn't say that. If you can set up your Mac and your iPad to respond to phone numbers too.
18:54:55 But then even then, I think your phone has to be somewhere nearby.
18:55:00 Right. Some sort of a relay deal.
18:55:03 Well, it's not so much reda deal as
18:55:07 is the way that iCloud works, they can share that stuff.
18:55:10 Yeah.
18:55:12 Was that a thoroughly non-satisfying
18:55:15 Technical answer.
18:55:17 Well, no, I think that
18:55:20 I'm still in the same boat with the iPad. RCS makes no difference for it
18:55:27 No. No.
18:55:28 Okay, so…
18:55:28 It's mostly on the other end.
18:55:30 Remember, it's not on Apple's end. It's mostly on the other end.
18:55:34 And it depends a lot on, I have a friend who's um
18:55:38 works for NOAA, my prior employer. He has a Pixel phone. I have no trouble sending things to him, but his wife has an older Android phone by…
18:55:51 HTC or something
18:55:53 And he has trouble sending stuff to her.
18:55:56 Because again, the pixel is a much more advanced in terms of the software technology than the
18:56:03 Then the HTC.
18:56:05 And that's an issue. So while Google might complain about it, Google mostly is complaining about it because everybody else blames
18:56:14 Google, because they developed android
18:56:17 for the problems, but it's really
18:56:20 It's partially limitations in Android and it's partially limitations in just whoever has that phone
18:56:27 is selling that phone, what the carrier limitations
18:56:33 in the structure. One of the things that
18:56:36 you have on in the mac world
18:56:39 Apple controls the chip inside. They can control the software. They control the technology.
18:56:45 it's much, much easier to get all that stuff to work than
18:56:50 If Google makes the phone, well, Samsung makes the phone
18:56:54 Google makes the operating system. Verizon puts limitations on it. You put all that together and it's much messier.
18:57:05 I have trouble understanding why people would buy a
18:57:09 product that they can't themselves update.
18:57:12 Well, you have to remember that the
18:57:15 American consumers are extremely cost conscious.
18:57:20 And if an iPhone costs like 600 bucks and you can get something that has the same laundry list of things that it can do for 200, that sounds like a bargain.
18:57:31 Yeah, unless your phone's hijacked because it's not updated and all of your
18:57:37 bank account information and so on disappears into somebody else's
18:57:42 Well, the…
18:57:41 grasp that 200 bucks doesn't seem like such a good deal.
18:57:45 The other reason why a lot of people, you have to remember that the cost of a phone is hidden.
18:57:51 If I told you that this cost a thousand bucks and actually cost more than a thousand bucks.
18:57:56 That really isn't the cost of the phone.
18:57:59 Because most of the phones that are sold in stores come with a contract. So the phone might cost you $200, but the contract is $2,300.
18:58:10 So they don't think that way.
18:58:14 And I do.
18:58:18 So if I want something that's going to do what I want and not necessarily what the vendor wants. But most people don't understand how it works.
18:58:26 And they don't really understand the charges.
18:58:30 To give you, and it's interesting
18:58:34 it's almost a cost. It's almost class consciousness
18:58:38 A lot of homeless people know a great deal more about cell phones than people who live in houses. And the reason is it's their lifeline.
18:58:48 It's their library. It's their internet access. It's their notification system. It's everything.
18:58:54 So a lot of homeless people
18:58:56 They might see that $2,300
18:58:59 For the cost of the contract as a bargain compared to
18:59:04 Other things that they can do. So they know a lot about
18:59:07 cell phones and cell phone technology.
18:59:10 But for a lot of other people, it's an impulse buy and they haven't really researched it and they really don't.
18:59:15 understand anything about it.
18:59:20 Wow.
18:59:20 So while we're on the subject of RCS,
18:59:25 My situation is a little bit different than his in that
18:59:29 My daughter and son-in-law live in Australia.
18:59:32 My daughter has an iPhone and my son-in-law has an Android. He is an anti-Apple person. So to communicate with him, we can't use tech, or at least we don't think we can use text because you have to pay for them individually and being international. And so we've been using Facebook.
18:59:57 messenger, which I absolutely hate.
19:00:00 So if we redirect our text messages to his email address instead, and if he does likewise, should we be able to send him texts for free?
19:00:13 Yes.
19:00:15 Okay, then.
19:00:15 Because at that point, it goes over the data plan rather than text.
19:00:19 Okay.
19:00:19 Which is another reason why I send things to email addresses.
19:00:24 Because it goes over the data plan.
19:00:26 Ah, okay. Great. I'm going to have to talk with him.
19:00:31 This one Apple engineer
19:00:35 Before the iPhone added text messaging. The original iPhone, I don't know if it had text messaging or not, but anyway.
19:00:44 his son
19:00:45 ran up a thousand dollar phone bill one month.
19:00:48 with text messaging.
19:00:51 And this is back when it was 10 cents per text. So think about how many text messages it takes. It might have been 15. I don't know what the count count was.
19:01:00 He gave his son an iPhone and the iPhones at that time were just ridiculously expensive compared to everything else. And he says, I'm going to save money.
19:01:09 And he showed people at a conference I was at, he showed people the bills.
19:01:14 And he was having bills like $1,000, $2,000, $2,500, $2,500, 2,000.
19:01:21 these bills that he was getting because they were charging for text messaging.
19:01:24 And then the next month's bill was 165.
19:01:29 142.
19:01:31 They're all in the hundreds. So he said, you know, I'm saving a lot of money. And the trick is send it over the data plan.
19:01:40 Because the data plan is just how much stuff
19:01:43 Whereas the text messages are per message.
19:01:48 It's one of the best ways in the world for a phone company to make money, charge you for
19:01:53 text messages. It costs less for them to deliver a text message
19:01:59 than it does for a short phone call. If I call you up and I say, hello, I'm going to be there at 5 p.m.
19:02:05 And you say, okay, good. And we hang out.
19:02:09 The total length of the phone call is about five seconds. That would cover
19:02:14 almost a novel's worth of text messaging.
19:02:19 Text messaging is just so fast, takes up so little space that it's essentially free for them to provide it.
19:02:25 And yet they make a fortune off of it.
19:02:28 Text messaging is bad news.
19:02:32 Send it to email when you can.
19:02:36 Okay, I'm glad I have one more question and then we're going to get on with what I'm talking about tonight, which is
19:02:45 Apple, their new operating systems.
19:02:49 Any questions?
19:02:52 Yes. Your microphone is off.
19:02:59 Sorry, I sent you a chat message. Is there going to be a sign-in link for the meeting?
19:03:04 Oh, oh, oh, you sent me a chat. Why don't I have that?
19:03:09 Where is my… Oh, yes.
19:03:10 isn't in the
19:03:12 Yeah, my problem is I lost the chat. Yes, I'm going to send you a sign-in link in the text
19:03:22 messaging. So if you have the
19:03:24 a chat window open and the chat window
19:03:27 Oh.
19:03:27 is down in the navigation down at the bottom.
19:03:30 There's a link to the sign-in form. And the sign in.
19:03:32 I see it.
19:03:34 The signing in form is nice because as an example, one of our members got divorced and she changed her name, which changed her email address and so on and so forth.
19:03:44 And having the sign-in form allowed me to
19:03:47 make adjustments for things like that.
19:03:50 If you can sign the sign in, that would be nice. Even if you're not planning on getting divorced in the next, you know.
19:03:55 week or two.
19:03:58 I'm going to talk about
19:04:02 Sequoia.
19:04:04 And…
19:04:06 I'm not going to talk about the uh
19:04:10 iPad because I don't have as easy a way to show it, but I'm going to share my screen so I can talk about certain things that
19:04:17 that you'll find out in Apple's new operating system. By the way, I'm not going to really talk about it because there's no easy way to show it.
19:04:25 The Apple also made some changes to TVOS. If you have an Apple TV.
19:04:31 The only thing that I don't like about it is that it's harder to turn it off.
19:04:37 It used to be you go up to the right upper right-hand corner and you press a little button and you could turn it off. Now you have to go up, press the button, slide it sideways with a good chance that you missed the target to turn it off.
19:04:51 I have taken to using Siri to turn it off. I tell Siri to
19:04:54 Turn my TV off and it turns the TV off.
19:04:58 So that's handy. But Kathleen is then also wondered
19:05:02 Who am I yelling at in the living room? And it's the TV, but details.
19:05:09 But I'm not going to show that.
19:05:11 So I'm going to show my screen.
19:05:15 And we're going to show that one.
19:05:22 To bypass the system prior window and directly access your screen and audio.
19:05:28 Sure.
19:05:31 This screen here is done in uh
19:05:37 Sequoia, which is a new Apple operating system.
19:05:40 The background picture here is not from the operating system. This is I have a
19:05:46 collection of space photographs and photographs that I've taken and they rotate
19:05:51 All the time. And this is um
19:05:55 the capsule that we launched around the moon
19:05:59 Last year?
19:06:02 Taking a picture of
19:06:03 Among other things, Earth, from one of its robot arms but um
19:06:10 And over here on the side, that's my niece and her child six years ago.
19:06:15 The child is almost as tall as I am.
19:06:18 So, um.
19:06:20 Some things to note.
19:06:23 about um
19:06:25 Safari about Sequoia. The first thing I'm going to do is…
19:06:30 show you a browser window if I can find, oh, before they do that
19:06:36 Apple has this thing called system status
19:06:39 It's developer applecom slash system hyphen status.
19:06:43 It tells you the the um
19:06:47 status of Apple's web services.
19:06:49 And right now the app store is down and a whole bunch of parts of the App Store are down.
19:06:56 And Apple Podcasts is down. The podcasts themselves are not down, but the part that
19:07:02 allows you to register things. And part of Xcode, which is the developer, how developers develop
19:07:11 Applications, part of that is down.
19:07:13 And this is a website that's freely available. You don't have to be a developer. You just go to developerapple.com system status and I'll
19:07:22 tapping into the uh
19:07:23 chat window, if I can find the chat window, what did I do with the chat window?
19:07:28 And…
19:07:31 I don't know where the chat window is.
19:07:33 Oh, well.
19:07:40 I lost the chat window.
19:07:42 Oh, but anyway, it's uh
19:07:47 developer.apple.com slash systems hyphen status.
19:07:51 And it gives you this page. So you can go over there anytime that you have internet service and see if something really is broken. I have had a lot of people say that, oh, Google's not working and so on and so forth. And quite often it's just, it's something on your machine.
19:08:06 I'm now going to go to my
19:08:09 website. This is one of my websites. This is where I have publications of things that I've made.
19:08:16 And some things to note in the new Safari is that there's a little thing up here that's really kind of hard to see is a little icon that's almost invisible. And if you click on that, you can do things like hide distracting items or you think, okay, what does that do? Well, you're going along and you decide you don't like this
19:08:34 you just get rid of it.
19:08:37 And you can then
19:08:39 cancel that and put it back there.
19:08:41 But you go to a lot of websites and you'll find that they just are all full of distractions. So I'm going to go to CNN.
19:08:49 And CNN, you say that you want to turn off high distracting items
19:08:56 And CNN headlines
19:09:00 That's the wrong thing.
19:09:03 Got rid of that. That was an ad.
19:09:06 And CNN has these things that are
19:09:09 A lot of them are sponsored content. This is sponsored content. Really don't want to see that. I don't want the advertising there. Paid content, don't want that.
19:09:20 you can just get rid of it so that you can have more of a
19:09:25 A reading experience of what you want to read rather than a bunch of advertising. And if you decide that's too much, you can say cancel and it all comes back.
19:09:34 So I'll give you another example.
19:09:38 I'm going to go back to my site.
19:09:40 Which is outlined.
19:09:43 This way.
19:09:47 And I go to…
19:09:52 publications
19:09:55 And this came up, as you notice, it changed the format entirely and get rid of the sidebar.
19:10:02 This is a different format than what you're seeing on the page.
19:10:05 I go to this page.
19:10:07 goes back to the regular web page.
19:10:10 I got a computer is simplified and this is a
19:10:14 This is an article I wrote.
19:10:16 a long time ago. And what Apple has done is that it's turned this into reader mode. In reader mode, it gets rid of all of the navigation and everything. So you just
19:10:25 read the content of the page.
19:10:28 And if you don't want that, you can go up here and click it back.
19:10:31 off and it takes you back to the page.
19:10:34 with the navigation and all the rest of this stuff.
19:10:37 Reader Moan has been on the Mac
19:10:39 In Safari for years and years and years, and people just haven't noticed that it's there.
19:10:45 But in Sequoia, it's much more obvious. So you can go to this part here where it says it's got this little icon that's in the address bar and you say show reader mode and it takes whatever you're looking at.
19:10:58 And makes it.
19:11:00 If you're printing it, this is also a good way to do it. Go into reader mode first, and then when you print it, when it prints it, you're not printing the advertising and all the rest of the stuff that's on the page.
19:11:13 It's a really good feature.
19:11:16 The other things that they've done with Safari are sometimes under the
19:11:22 the um
19:11:24 you don't notice them as much.
19:11:26 But you can have different ways of setting up tabs. I personally don't like tab comment content. I open up new windows.
19:11:34 You can set how autofill should work. I need to turn this off. I don't have my browser automatically spend my money. So I turn that part off. It's got its own little password icon in older versions. In the new version, there's a separate icon app that I'm going to show you in a second. You can set what search engine you want it to use.
19:11:57 You can have different kinds of security.
19:12:00 it's well worth looking at the options in
19:12:04 in um
19:12:06 Safari because there's a lot of good stuff there that people just don't realize is there.
19:12:10 But the new distraction-free riding
19:12:16 I really take a time that goes to town when I go on to places like the New York Times or the Washington Post.
19:12:24 Just make the
19:12:25 make the advertisements go away.
19:12:29 So I wanted to show you that.
19:12:32 And…
19:12:32 And that works good on a phone and iPad too.
19:12:36 Yeah, there's one other thing I wanted to show you.
19:12:40 This is dependent upon what you have your language translation set up.
19:12:45 I happen to have language translation set up for German and Japanese.
19:12:49 And you do that on the
19:12:53 Mac in settings you
19:12:56 I don't remember where it is.
19:12:59 But there's a place in settings where you can
19:13:02 say what languages you want it to support. So I said German and Japanese.
19:13:09 And so I went to translate this page, my site, among other things, has some stuff in Japanese. So translated into Japanese.
19:13:17 And it translated it into Japanese.
19:13:23 Or I want it to translate it.
19:13:25 go back to the original and say, I don't want that page. Let's go back here.
19:13:39 Go back here.
19:13:41 I want this to be in German.
19:13:45 And it translates it into German.
19:13:48 Now, most often you might go to a German page and want to translate it into English. I had a
19:13:55 A friend of mine who um
19:13:56 He told me about this paper that he wrote.
19:13:59 And he happens to be german but he told me about this paper he wrote and sent me a URL and I wasn't paying any attention to the URL and clicked on it and went to this page and was all in German. And my German
19:14:10 is pretty bad.
19:14:12 So I use the translates function to turn it into English and
19:14:16 It's actually pretty, pretty good.
19:14:19 Language translation, by the way.
19:14:22 is something that a lot of people like to take credit for. When I was in Japan in 1985, I went to NT&T, Nippon.
19:14:30 Telephone and telegraph. And they were working hard on having
19:14:36 both translation services for telephones, but also transcription services for telephones. And the reason why they were doing this in 1985 is again, because there are 10,000 characters in Japanese. And if they could, instead of trying to type this, and there is a way to type 10,000 characters.
19:14:58 It's really, really painful. Instead of trying to type this, if you could talk to your machine and it starts transcribing it, it'd be a heck of a lot faster for them. So they were working on this in 1985 and they had done some really
19:15:11 incredible things. But as you see, you can now do incredible things at home without really trying just by using your browser.
19:15:19 So if you're in the habit of looking at German and Japanese websites and you want it translated into English, you can do that.
19:15:30 But what languages it does are based upon preferences in
19:15:35 settings. I don't remember where that is.
19:15:39 Language and region.
19:15:42 is where you set that.
19:15:44 And I said, in addition, I went to English, Japanese, and German. And you can add a ridiculous number of other languages.
19:15:52 And when I say ridiculous, I mean a ridiculous number of other languages.
19:15:57 But, um.
19:15:59 In my historical research, Japanese and English are the ones that I need.
19:16:02 So all of this is in Safari. Some of this is new and some of it is just easier than it was before.
19:16:09 So it's well worth it.
19:16:12 checking out.
19:16:16 And I'm going to close that.
19:16:21 Another thing that people don't think too much attention, pay too much temp attention to
19:16:25 is tips. TIPS is an application
19:16:29 It's on the iPad, it's on the iPhone, it's on the Mac. And a lot of people never, ever, ever bother to look at it. But tips is nice because among other things, it'll tell you how to do things on your machine. So you can
19:16:41 go through and it's got videos telling you how to do various and sundry things like what's new in Sequoia.
19:16:48 And it's right on your machine. So there's really no reason not to pay attention to it. And the new customization of your desktop, you can actually start it on your desktop, this little
19:17:02 yellow icon is actually a icon for tips. So if you want to figure out how to do something.
19:17:09 I'm going to go to the beginning.
19:17:11 See what's new in macOS.
19:17:15 Use your phone for your Mac. I'm going to show you that in a bit.
19:17:19 Don't know that I'm there. Quickly lay out your work surfaces. This is something that
19:17:25 As you move Windows around now, it'll try and tile them. I don't like it. This is something you can do in Windows, the operating system, and I don't like it there either. I prefer to have my windows my own way, but I might get used to it. But as an example, until I turned it off, if I move the browser too close to the
19:17:49 top bar here, it fills the entire window.
19:17:51 And for a lot of people, that's exactly what they want. But for me
19:17:55 I have multiple screens, so I don't really need it to
19:17:58 Fell up my entire window. But the tiling's nice
19:18:04 You can pick which window you want to share if you're using FaceTime.
19:18:08 Which is sometimes really useful so people don't see everything.
19:18:13 This is talking about the head that the uh
19:18:15 getting rid of uh
19:18:17 distractions on the
19:18:19 web pages. I'm going to show you passwords in a bit.
19:18:25 This thing with React with the perfect emoji, that's really kind of a misnomer. If you open up messages
19:18:34 And you, I'm going to send a message to myself. All they've done is the emojis are here and now they're better organized. It's not
19:18:41 It's not really rocket science. And you still can't do
19:18:45 what you can do on the iPhone. If you type out the word dragon, for example, on an iPhone, you'll see an
19:18:51 Emoji for a dragon. And on the Mac, you still have to
19:18:56 Click on the animals and
19:19:00 find a dragon.
19:19:03 Where's the…
19:19:03 You can style text now, though, can't you? In messages?
19:19:06 Yeah, she can also style text.
19:19:08 Which again, it's actually easier on
19:19:12 a machine with a uh
19:19:13 Keyboard.
19:19:19 I just had Dragon and bold and i'm going to
19:19:23 unbold the other words so you can see that
19:19:25 And I can italicize it.
19:19:28 There's really no way to do that trick on the iPhone because it doesn't have a keyboard.
19:19:33 It requires something that has a keyboard. I don't know if you can do it on a
19:19:38 iPad with a keyboard. Haven't tried that yet.
19:19:41 It just occurred to me to try that. But now you can send
19:19:45 style text. What I don't know is how it looks on somebody else's phone.
19:19:49 if they haven't updated. And also I can guarantee this is going to tick off the Android people because
19:19:57 I don't think it'll work.
19:20:02 Speaking of things, something that
19:20:07 uh…
19:20:15 My phone has been sending stylized text when I
19:20:19 would type a word that
19:20:21 it recognizes being one that would be cool to be stylized. It offers that to me and I can click on it or not.
19:20:27 Oh, really?
19:20:29 Yeah.
19:20:29 Huh. Well, maybe I haven't tried enough.
19:20:35 with styles that.
19:20:36 But anyway, tips is on your machine. It's got…
19:20:41 It comes with, among other things, there's a table of contents and
19:20:45 It's well worth exploring and
19:20:47 It's been on machines for years, but I'm surprised at how few people are actually
19:20:55 play with it.
19:20:57 Let's go to iPhone mirroring. There's a new application sitting here in my dock and my dock is really small because it's got a bunch of stuff in it. But I click on it. It says that it's connecting to my iPhone 15 Pro Max, which is right here. And here's my iPhone 15 Pro Max. You can now play with your phone
19:21:17 on your desktop. When I say play, I mean sometimes literally.
19:21:25 Like, this is a game where you
19:21:28 fireballs and you
19:21:31 If I have sound turned on, it makes a popping noise.
19:21:34 And if you're sitting in a doctor's office and your mind is just turning to mush, this is actually quite calming
19:21:41 I was sitting in a doctor's office with my mind turning to mush yesterday.
19:21:46 So, um.
19:21:48 But I was playing with this on the iPhone, but this is an iPhone game that I'm now playing on my Mac.
19:21:53 through this iPhone mirroring.
19:21:55 But the other thing to note is that
19:21:59 is that
19:22:02 Sometimes you want to just look something up
19:22:05 Or do something that you can't do on your iPhone, on your Mac.
19:22:10 So for example.
19:22:12 What is it called?
19:22:15 Ocean Watch is something that tells me what the tides are. This is at Squin Bay entrance. And I'm a photographer, not a professional one, but a photographer.
19:22:27 I like taking pictures of the straits when it's got a lot of water in it. If you go out there at low tide, sometimes all you see is a mile of mud flat, which is not terribly photogenic. So knowing when high tide and low tide is really handy. And Ocean Watch is a free
19:22:47 app for your phone. Well, if I'm not on my phone, if my phone is in the bedroom or something like that, I can now look at OceanWatch on my
19:22:56 Mac by just selecting the icon.
19:23:00 Now, a good question, and when I couldn't figure it out immediately.
19:23:03 If I'm looking at something on my iPhone, how do I get out of it?
19:23:06 And the answer is you…
19:23:09 you click on this button down, you click on the bar down here and that closes the app.
19:23:14 I was having real trouble trying to figure out how to get out of apps.
19:23:19 And eventually figured that out. But there are lots of things that you can do on an iPhone that you can't on a Mac.
19:23:24 And there are times that you want to coordinate something on your iPhone and on your Mac.
19:23:29 And you can do that with mirroring. This is also good for things like
19:23:33 demonstrations, if I want to demonstrate something.
19:23:37 Like, how do you get rid of an app on the iPhone? Well, you hold down on it
19:23:43 And if you hold down on it, it starts to vibrate and then you can say remove app and get rid of it.
19:23:48 And I really do want to delete that. That's the app for Staples and there's no staples here, so I don't care about it.
19:23:56 It's a good way to demonstrate things, which probably doesn't mean much to most of you, but it's good for me. This is that classical application I was talking about earlier.
19:24:06 In the question and answer session.
19:24:09 It's an Apple app, so you don't have to do anything special. Just add it to your phone.
19:24:14 And then pick out classical music that you want to listen to. It's nice to listen to rock music and all that, but every once in a while, I want classical.
19:24:22 And that's all this thing does. Another thing that a lot of people have never figured out about the phone is that if you go to the very end.
19:24:29 you can actually get these things in alphabetical order. You look at the search bar up here, it lists your apps in alphabetical order.
19:24:37 And a lot of people have never realized that.
19:24:40 It's been doing that for a while, but…
19:24:43 So you can now demonstrate things with your
19:24:46 phone on
19:24:49 On your desktop. And you could do this before, but it was really tricky and it required that you physically connect
19:24:56 Your phone. And I have the phone in my hand with no wires. This is all done wirelessly.
19:25:04 Um.
19:25:05 Okay, we're going to show you something that's really cool.
19:25:09 And you're not going to think it's cool, but I think it's cool.
19:25:13 Most people do a really poor job
19:25:17 of keeping track of their passwords.
19:25:19 Well, Apple now has a password app.
19:25:22 And even though I did not put Sequoia on this particular machine until about five hours ago.
19:25:30 It was on other machines, but it wasn't on this one. It now has a collection of 435 passwords.
19:25:38 And three pass keys and zero codes and Wi-Fi isn't going to get to a second. There are 93 security issues and there are 20 deleted passwords.
19:25:50 So I'm going to tell you why this is cool.
19:25:54 the um
19:25:58 this codes or things like somebody who sends you a validation code and so on and so forth, it can keep track of that stuff. Most of the validation codes disappear. They're only good for like five minutes or five hours or something. So I'm not quite sure why you care. I'm going to start off with deleted passwords. Why would you want a collection of deleted passwords?
19:26:19 Any volunteers?
19:26:24 So, you know…
19:26:24 So they know what ones not to try again?
19:26:28 That's a possibility, but I'll give you one that you hadn't probably thought about.
19:26:32 A lot of people sign up for websites, they use it for a bit, they decide it's not useful, and then they just abandon it. They walk away.
19:26:41 But they still have an account on it.
19:26:45 And a lot of people use the same password for everything. They use it for your bank. They use it for their gym. They use it for free drawing, the same password for everything.
19:26:56 an account gets hacked on a site that you haven't used in five years.
19:27:01 But it uses a password that you're currently using.
19:27:04 Now you are in really bad shape.
19:27:08 So this deleted passwords is actually useful because if you're not using whatever that is, and I don't know what that is, go onto that site and kill off your account.
19:27:20 If you're not using it, go ahead and delete it, but then go on to that site and kill off that account.
19:27:26 I don't remember what this is at all.
19:27:29 I really do have an account on X, but I deleted the app.
19:27:34 Because they have an app that was developed for the iPhone that would work on the Mac.
19:27:40 And seven days ago, they broke it. So when I launch it, it would just crash. So today I deleted
19:27:46 I deleted X off of my
19:27:49 computer and it says that it's been abandoned, but it really hasn't been abandoned. I can use it in a browser.
19:27:54 It's just their app instantly crash.
19:27:57 So having a list of your deleted apps is really a good idea. And if you're not using these anymore, like I don't have a Samsung anymore, I should go onto that account
19:28:09 and delete my account so that somebody can't
19:28:13 impersonate me or try to reuse a password that I used. I haven't worked for NOAA.
19:28:20 for six and a half years. So I should probably go and get rid. I can't really delete these accounts because I don't have access to those computers.
19:28:28 LinkedIn, I deleted my account a long time ago, so I don't care about this.
19:28:34 It's having a list of your deleted apps and deleted accounts is really a good idea.
19:28:40 Security, though, is the one that you should really pay attention to.
19:28:44 It says that these have compromised passwords. And if you look, there's just a lot of sites with compromised passwords.
19:28:52 And this one here says it's a reused password. Google says it's a reused password because
19:28:57 Depending upon how you're using Google, you'll use it for mail, you'll use it for this, for use of that. And Google says, hey, you reuse this password. Yeah, because it's all the same account, you twits.
19:29:08 But knowing which passwords have been compromised is a really good thing to go and check.
19:29:13 to change your password. And where did it get all of this information? The answer is almost all of this was collected from Safari in the past.
19:29:23 You sign up for something on a phone or you log into something on your phone
19:29:27 iCloud shares that with your Mac. Your Mac shares stuff with iCloud and all of this stuff Apple's been keeping track of. And it's been
19:29:37 available, but it's really hard to use. You had to use keychain on the Mac, which most people never figured out. So now they have this password app. It's nice. It has a nice GUI interface. It's very easy to use.
19:29:48 And it's really, really, really cool.
19:29:52 I'm not going to get rid of one password because 1Password does a couple things that this doesn't. But I am extremely impressed. One thing here that is kind of puzzling
19:30:02 It's got this thing called wi-fi
19:30:05 Why?
19:30:09 Ideas?
19:30:15 to keep track of passwords from Wi-Fi accounts that you've dealt with?
19:30:20 Yes, I was curious because I saw this and I installed um
19:30:25 Sequoia on Kathleen's laptop
19:30:29 She has over 400 Wi-Fi passwords because
19:30:33 I can go through and clear them out every once in a while.
19:30:36 But she hasn't. She has Wi-Fi passwords for accounts that when she was working for the Department of Defense 14 years ago.
19:30:45 And I'm sure that they've made drastic changes and it wouldn't work anymore, but it keeps track of those.
19:30:50 And this is also a nice thing to have
19:30:53 handy because if you go into like some of these are for my church, if I don't happen to remember what the guest password is, I can go here and look it up.
19:31:02 And others of these, I have no idea what they are like.
19:31:05 I have no idea what Archer 34 is, but
19:31:08 That's probably something I can get rid of.
19:31:11 And the other thing that I noticed on other machines is that it has things like
19:31:16 hotels on my laptop because
19:31:19 The laptop got carried to a hotel once, so it gave me the hotel password.
19:31:26 This was downrigger, I believe is um
19:31:28 restaurant and in Port Angeles.
19:31:32 So it keeps track of Wi-Fi passwords. But like a lot of other things, if you're not using them anymore, get rid of them.
19:31:40 I found…
19:31:43 a password for a password for
19:31:48 car rental agency in Arlington, Virginia.
19:31:51 really probably don't need that anytime soon.
19:31:56 So pass keys are a little bit different. There aren't that many things that support pass keys now.
19:32:01 What a lot of companies are trying to do is get people to use pass keys. The difference between a passkey
19:32:08 And a password is a passkey.
19:32:11 It's not something you can tell people what it is and it's not something that anybody can read.
19:32:17 So they're really, really quite secure.
19:32:21 It's basically a specialized token that's passed back and forth.
19:32:26 They can still be compromised like this one here says
19:32:30 something oh there's a reused password associated with it because again google
19:32:35 kind of loses track of the fact that you can use it different ways but uh
19:32:39 Pass keys are kind of cool because
19:32:42 They recognize your machine, they recognize who you are, and they let you in. So it's quite…
19:32:49 Quite nice. But there are 435 passwords that
19:32:56 iCloud.
19:32:59 collected.
19:33:01 And…
19:33:03 I'm going to be going through and getting rid of them. Some of these are kind of funny, like 192.168.1.1. Does anyone know what that is?
19:33:14 testing your home network.
19:33:16 Yeah, testing my home network. It kept track of that too. Nobody in the world can use that other than me.
19:33:23 But it kept track of that and it counts it as a password so
19:33:27 This is a nice, among other things it's a nice
19:33:31 task to have on some rainy day where I'm not doing anything else is just get rid of the stuff that I don't want anymore.
19:33:38 I'm not using
19:33:43 LinkedIn anymore, so I can get rid of LinkedIn. I'm not using a lot of this stuff.
19:33:47 So I'm really impressed with passwords.
19:33:52 It's much, much easier to use than keychain.
19:33:56 It passwords appears now on your iPad and your iPhone and on the Mac and through iCloud, they share information with each other. It's really well done, well worth checking out.
19:34:12 I'm just keeping track of
19:34:14 1Password right now because 1Password keeps track of other things like secure notes and
19:34:19 other things. So it'll be a while before I
19:34:23 get rid of them.
19:34:26 Let's see.
19:34:28 Another thing I wanted to show you
19:34:30 Which may seem pointless, but it's important to me.
19:34:34 Oh, let's do that again.
19:34:39 Open up the window.
19:34:41 As I move it to the top of the screen.
19:34:45 Oh, come on. You did this a couple seconds ago.
19:34:49 Oh, I changed the, now if I double click, it'll do that. But you see how it filled the…
19:34:56 the screen from top to bottom.
19:34:57 That's one of the accessibility features that they have now.
19:35:02 We're going to go to wallpaper.
19:35:06 Sequoia has a staggering amount of wallpapers. These wallpapers are from previous versions of the Mac operating system. These date back to
19:35:18 I think this is pre-system 10.
19:35:22 But, uh.
19:35:25 They have a lot of different ones, but you can also
19:35:29 choose your own.
19:35:32 And I'm double clicking. Why aren't you moving?
19:35:36 Yeah.
19:35:42 I don't want the entire length of the screen anyway.
19:35:46 Back to wallpaper. Up here at the top you can say
19:35:50 that you went…
19:35:52 to have a particular
19:35:57 List.
19:36:01 of photos
19:36:03 And where are you?
19:36:05 Oh, it's down here at the bottom. These are photographs either that I have taken or
19:36:12 of uh
19:36:14 space for the most part. This was taken out at uh
19:36:24 Along.
19:36:27 I was taken a couple miles east of here.
19:36:29 I can't remember the name of the road.
19:36:31 Off the top of my head, but
19:36:34 Once you have that, you can also set it to
19:36:37 If you want it to fit to this screen, which means that it might chop off the
19:36:42 edges or you can fill the screen, in which case it'll take the center of the picture.
19:36:48 But I like to see the entire picture, so I usually have it fit and I can have it change
19:36:54 So it'll cycle through these things randomly once every 30 minutes.
19:36:59 And the same thing with the screensavers.
19:37:02 I usually use the same set of photographs.
19:37:05 And for the screensaver, I used sliding panels or a bunch of other things. Origami is kind of neat because of the
19:37:14 photographs
19:37:16 flow.
19:37:17 And this is also part of security settings. So you can have it so that I'm not going to show you this, but if I move my mouse into the lower left corner, it immediately starts up the screensaver. And the only way to get past it is to type in a password.
19:37:32 The screensavers actually has a security function.
19:37:35 It's not just a screensaver and again it's
19:37:38 we'll go through with these options you can have it
19:37:42 shuffle the slide order or not shuffle the slide order and just do them
19:37:46 Alphabetically and it'll change um
19:37:51 As often as it wants to. And you also have the ability to tell it to
19:37:56 on the screensaver to have it show the
19:38:00 time, which is what I usually have it to do.
19:38:05 Start screensaver went inactive for 20 minutes
19:38:09 Turn display off on parad after when inactive for 20 minutes.
19:38:12 turn display off on UPS if the power goes out and it's running off UPS, it'll turn it off in two minutes.
19:38:18 And you can have it set to display
19:38:22 the time and all kinds of things here.
19:38:24 But a lot of people don't think of the screensaver as being a security function, but really
19:38:29 modern displays that they're not going to suffer from burn-in. So the biggest use for them
19:38:34 is for security.
19:38:36 You're away from the machine, just move it to the corner and the screensaver
19:38:41 lines starts up. You can set what corner you want it to be at.
19:38:47 Let's see, where is that?
19:38:52 You can set that in the hot corners.
19:38:56 So the position on the screen and where you want things to go and various incendry things happening all that way.
19:39:07 Um.
19:39:08 Oh, I should go back to system settings here.
19:39:12 Another thing that people, it's been here for quite a while.
19:39:16 Um.
19:39:21 The pointer on the mac
19:39:26 There are a lot of things you can do it. The pointer is that little up arrow that I have here. You can change the color.
19:39:33 And I have mine changed to purple.
19:39:36 You can also change it so that if you wiggle it, it gets larger.
19:39:41 Which is handy if you have a large screen and you can't find it anymore. You can change the default size of the pointer, lots of different changes that you can make to the pointer. You can change the intensity, a lot of different things you can do with the
19:39:56 pointer through the pointer controls how fast it moves, all kinds of things you can do with pointer.
19:40:03 So I mention this because with the new operating system, it's much easier than trying to find it in all this. It's much better organized than it was before. But if you don't remember
19:40:16 where it's going to be located, you can just type in
19:40:19 pointer or you can type in
19:40:22 mouse, which gives you essentially the same things
19:40:26 And it'll tell you how to get to those controls.
19:40:32 Another thing that is a little bit different and somewhat confusing
19:40:37 Widgets are these things that you can stick on the desktop and they first had these widgets on
19:40:42 the iPhone and the iPad. Now you can have it on the Mac. But now it's actually been there for a while, but it's much more obvious now.
19:40:51 you can have third party widgets. So this one here is a battery widget. It tells me that my wireless keyboard, it's half charge. My mouse is about two thirds charged.
19:41:01 My watch is fully charged, which is hard to believe because I've been wearing it all day and there's nothing else here.
19:41:08 that's doing anything.
19:41:10 And this is the stock that's Apple stock.
19:41:14 I don't actually look at stocks, but
19:41:16 It's nice to, I wanted to have something to demonstrate up here. So you're stuck. If you click on it.
19:41:22 It gives you information on stocks, Apple stocks, Google stocks, Nikkei 2025, Microsoft. And you get to pick what you want there.
19:41:32 So you don't have to, you're not stuck with something. Here's the tips which I showed you earlier.
19:41:40 This is from photos.
19:41:44 That's my niece and her son.
19:41:49 But this other one is a new widget.
19:41:52 And to get to widgets, you just come out here, you right click and say.
19:41:56 edit widgets and you have a list of widgets
19:42:02 Batteries is Apple, calendar, clock, contacts, all Apple. Draft is a third-party blogging function.
19:42:12 And so that's different. That's a new thing that we have.
19:42:15 This one here is called, I don't remember what it's called.
19:42:19 So I'll click on it and it tells me this is called drafts
19:42:23 It's a way, it's a note-taking thing that you just have it here and I can have a little
19:42:27 draft notes. This is an article that I'm working on an exhibit at Tokyo disneyland
19:42:34 that
19:42:36 fascinated me. They had this Tokyo, if you went, if you've been to Disneyland in anaheim
19:42:41 They have this thing called the hall of presidents
19:42:44 And it takes you through history of the United States and this rotating theater.
19:42:50 This is an exhibit at
19:42:53 Tokyo Disneyland, when it opened in 1993, called Meet the World and it's
19:42:58 has the history of Japan starting in prehistory and working up to the modern.
19:43:04 And for me, an historian, what I found astounding is that when it comes to 1853, the screen gets dark and you hear
19:43:12 you hear explosions and it said, and then a dark time came and then it takes you to the present day
19:43:18 it skips the entire history of Japan from 1853 through about 1960.
19:43:24 the imperialist period.
19:43:27 And so it doesn't have the Russia-China and Japanese war. It doesn't have the Russia-Chinese war doesn't have World War II. All of that they skip.
19:43:36 And as an historian, I found that astounding. However, most Japanese who've been raised
19:43:44 Since 1955,
19:43:47 Haven't read any of that history. It's not in the history books.
19:43:51 They just removed Japan's imperial period. They removed 100 years out of
19:43:56 Japanese history. And it used to fascinate the Japanese that I knew more about their history
19:44:03 than they did. But anyway, this…
19:44:06 This is a widget on the desktop. I want to write a new note just
19:44:11 Press that and I can write a new note.
19:44:13 And the nice thing, aside from the fact that this is useful to me, this is a third party. This is not an Apple thing. Apple opened up the
19:44:22 API so that third parties could use it.
19:44:26 And that's quite cool.
19:44:30 And that's about all I was going to
19:44:33 While I was prepared to say, so I'm going to
19:44:35 figure out how to unshare my screen.
19:44:41 And ask if there are any questions.
19:44:45 Are there significant changes to photos
19:44:48 Yes, there are.
19:44:51 There are very significant changes to photos. It's using a lot of, and there will probably be more in the near future when they introduce Apple intelligence, assuming that you have a device that supports Apple intelligence.
19:45:04 Apple Intelligence is probably going to be limited to
19:45:07 things that have Apple Silicon
19:45:09 So like the new iPhone
19:45:12 It will be backdated to the iPhone 15. I've been told.
19:45:18 And the new iPads and so on and so forth. But a lot of older Intel machines won't be able to use it. But the new photos does a better job of categorizing things.
19:45:30 I think the easiest way is to just show you. So I'll show you.
19:45:37 Photos.
19:45:41 If you look over here on the side, oh, I ran it up close to the top again
19:45:46 It's got different albums on the side. Those are albums either that I created or it decided to
19:45:54 have, but media types, there are videos
19:45:58 There are selfies. A selfie is anything taken with the front
19:46:03 camera. And I tend to take things like pictures of ceilings. I have two broken bones in my neck and
19:46:10 bending back to take a picture of a ceiling is hard, but setting it
19:46:15 setting the phone flat on my hand and taking a photo of a ceiling. This, I believe is York. This is Manchester.
19:46:24 cathedral.
19:46:26 A lot of things taken with the front camera this is the uh
19:46:30 Dublin Conference Center.
19:46:34 And it calls it a selfie if it was done with the uh
19:46:41 Okay.
19:46:38 front-facing camera. Live pictures, that's where you forgot and it's actually taking a small movie and you didn't know that.
19:46:46 portraits, you use the portrait mode, long exposure mode
19:46:51 panoramas
19:46:54 So this is a sign about a mile from where I live.
19:47:00 where I don't know if I should tell the farmer that this is misspelled or not.
19:47:05 But just photographs that are taken with the portrait mode.
19:47:08 Time lapse, slow-mo, cinematic.
19:47:12 births, screenshots.
19:47:16 Animated, raw
19:47:18 ProRes, which is the very high uh
19:47:22 um
19:47:25 Hi.
19:47:40 Okay.
19:47:27 resolution photographs. But the one that's really cool is duplicate. It goes through and finds all the duplicates. I've seen a lot of utilities that do duplicates, but this one does the best because it shows you such side by side what it's talking about.
19:47:43 Down to the bottom, it shows you the size of it too. So this one here is 66.3 megabytes and this one is 2.3 megabytes. So are these duplicates? No, they're not duplicates, but it's the same photograph. So which one will it take? If you tell it to
19:47:59 If you select them and you say merge two items, it comes up with a message and says.
19:48:06 The selected items appear to be the same but may have unique resolutions, file formats, or other slight differences. Merging will keep one version of the
19:48:14 duplicates that combine the highest quality and relevant data and move the neck rest to recently deleted. So it's going to keep the 66.3 megabyte one and get rid of the 2.3. And I just press that button.
19:48:35 And it happens.
19:48:35 it's supposed to happen.
19:48:35 Why are you not?
19:48:38 All right, it just took a while.
19:48:40 Possibly because I was talking too much.
19:48:41 And here we have two perfectly sized
19:48:45 black screens for whatever reason, probably taking the pictures of the inside of my pocket. And I could either merge the two or I can just say
19:48:55 delete both of them.
19:48:56 And they will go away.
19:49:01 Yes, delete it for all participants. But anyway, the duplicates is really quite good.
19:49:04 Thank you.
19:49:10 Okay.
19:49:06 A lot of people use their camera for taking receipts. Well, now it knows what a receipt looks like and it catalyzes that. Or you want something that's handwritten. All of these have someplace on them, handwritten stuff.
19:49:19 illustrations, you know, classify it by illustrations recently saved
19:49:25 Recently viewed, recently edited
19:49:29 recently shared
19:49:31 Documents, imports, things that came from someplace else.
19:49:37 I hate happening. I'm an historian. Historians are big on maps
19:49:41 So here we have a map
19:49:43 of US state mottos, for example, somebody put the state mottos on a map and I thought, well, that's worth doing. It's not something I'd ever waste time doing, but somebody else did it.
19:49:55 And percent of population, absolutely certain God exists and gives percentages and shows you which ones they are and where they're located.
19:50:05 And compares that with Europe.
19:50:07 Again, another interesting map and something I'm interested in. They had one
19:50:13 A couple of years ago that really intrigued me.
19:50:16 It was maps of all the airports in the roman empire
19:50:22 And it was just a map of the Roman Empire with nothing indicated.
19:50:26 Which I thought was funny. But anyway, those were all imported.
19:50:30 You can have it by projects, all kinds of stuff.
19:50:32 And it's doing this automatically and it didn't used to
19:50:36 have this many options.
19:50:40 I'm really quite impressed with um
19:50:43 with photos. And I'm looking forward to it
19:50:48 after the Apple Intelligence comes out because you can have it say
19:50:51 Show me photos of
19:50:54 Our trip to Pacific Beach, and it uses the location data in your phone to know which ones are Pacific Beach and it just shows you those
19:51:03 photos of Pacific Beach, which is a heck of a lot easier than sorting through them yourself.
19:51:09 At least that's how it's supposed to work so
19:51:12 I'm looking forward to that.
19:51:16 Yes.
19:51:19 So I have an iOS 18 question.
19:51:22 Yes.
19:51:25 I have an iPhone 14.
19:51:29 should i
19:51:30 Upgrade.
19:51:32 If it will let you, I would because I posted on the…
19:51:38 um uh
19:51:39 Mm-hmm.
19:51:39 our website, the list of all the things that are fixed in the upgrades. And it's a massive, massive list. It's the largest posting I've ever had on our website because it's got all the fixes for iOS, iPadOS, TVOS, everything.
19:51:55 And it's a huge number of things that have been fixed.
19:51:59 And not only would you like to have these things fixed if your phone supports it, you should definitely upgrade. But the other reason why you should upgrade is that when Apple publishes that list of things they fixed.
19:52:12 It tells hackers what to attack on machines that have not been updated.
19:52:18 So not only does it tell you that you should upgrade
19:52:22 your operating system to get these fixes, but it tells hackers, oh.
19:52:26 For everyone who doesn't bother to upgrade, now we have these new things that we can attack. It doesn't tell them how to attack them, but it says, we fixed this and it gives what the description of what it is
19:52:36 So then the bad guys say, oh.
19:52:38 Well, that gives me something to pester them at. Just to give you an idea of
19:52:45 how busy hackers are. This is an election year, in case you hadn't noticed.
19:52:51 Bye.
19:52:53 Homeowners Association has a website, which I run.
19:52:57 I'm sure you're all shocked to hear that.
19:53:03 Our website is averaging
19:53:06 700 attacks
19:53:08 per hour.
19:53:13 Every day.
19:53:16 Why are they attacking a homeowners association? Our homeowners association has
19:53:22 139 homes. It's not even a big homeowners association, 139.
19:53:26 Why would they attack him? They attack websites, all websites, looking for vulnerabilities so they can attack other websites.
19:53:34 And the reason for this is most of these attacks are coming from Russia.
19:53:39 Belarus, Iran.
19:53:43 China.
19:53:46 And North Korea.
19:53:48 But they don't say they're coming from those countries. They say they're coming from someplace else.
19:53:52 They attack these websites, they find vulnerabilities on those websites, then they use those websites, which are located in the United States to attack other things, such as
19:54:04 The Republican National Committee was compromised.
19:54:08 A couple months ago.
19:54:10 And they're doing this because, among other things, they're trying to influence the elections.
19:54:15 So that's why they attack a homeowners association. Do we have anything of value? No, we don't.
19:54:22 We don't have users log in. You can't use it for email. You can't pay your bills.
19:54:27 Nothing on it has any value of anything.
19:54:29 Unless you're a resident here. So that's not why they want it. They want it so they can use this as a platform to attack someplace else in the United States so that the
19:54:40 recipient of the attack says they're being attacked by somebody in the United States.
19:54:44 And it hides the fact that it's really from Russia, North Korea, China.
19:54:50 Belarus, Iran.
19:54:53 I expect
19:54:55 After the 5th of November.
19:54:58 that it'll fall off drastically.
19:55:02 Okay.
19:55:02 Speaking of dates, you have to remember I'm an historian.
19:55:06 The British election that put the Labor Party in power was on the 4th of July.
19:55:14 And where election is on November 5th, which is Guy Fawkes Day.
19:55:18 Which was the date that some terrorists tried to overthrow parliament in the
19:55:23 1600s. And I find this just
19:55:27 Gloriously funny, but I'm an historian, so…
19:55:32 you know historians are weird.
19:55:37 Any other questions?
19:55:39 The app.
19:55:40 Did you say that you had…
19:55:42 posted a link to the
19:55:44 Sign-in sheet on the chat window.
19:55:45 Yes, I did.
19:55:47 Because mine doesn't show it.
19:55:49 Yeah, mine doesn't either.
19:55:50 Well, I signed in and I'll take a look, okay?
19:55:54 Yeah, there are three
19:55:57 there are three
19:55:59 posts in the chat window
19:56:01 Mine is the first one.
19:56:03 Is there a meeting sign-in link?
19:56:06 The next one is Lawrence's posted link.
19:56:11 Then there is
19:56:13 a message. The third one is from Carol Gere.
19:56:17 To everyone.
19:56:19 And wait a minute.
19:56:21 I'm only seeing the ones from Carol here.
19:56:22 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I see what the problem was.
19:56:25 When I posted it, I sent it
19:56:28 Just to me.
19:56:28 to, yes, I sent it just to her. What happened was that uh
19:56:33 she asked a question. So when I sent a response, it went to her instead of everyone so
19:56:38 Okay, but now there is in fact a fifth one
19:56:42 sent to everyone. So the link is there.
19:56:45 Anybody else can sign in now.
19:56:47 Yeah, sorry about that. If you don't see the chat window, there's a button down at the bottom of your screen that's got
19:56:55 two little thought bubbles right next to each other. You click on that and it'll open the chat window.
19:57:03 Sorry, there was a user error in my uh
19:57:06 side, I just sent it to Chris.
19:57:11 Thank you.
19:57:16 So I have a quick question about something you already covered.
19:57:20 You were showing us the duplicate finder on
19:57:24 photos on the Mac.
19:57:28 Yes.
19:57:28 I assume that same thing exists on
19:57:33 It.
19:57:33 iPhone and or iPad?
19:57:35 I assume it's on the iPhone. The only place I've ever tried it was on the iPad. It shows up on the iPad too.
19:57:43 I wouldn't try it on the iPhone because it's a good way for your eyes to go bad quickly. The iPad's got a big enough screen, it's worthwhile.
19:57:53 is…
19:57:53 It might be on the iPhone. I never intend to use that function on the iPhone.
19:57:59 Okay, so…
19:58:00 I thought how I can find, or I mean, what do I look for on my iPad?
19:58:06 I don't have my iPad with me, so I don't remember.
19:58:11 Okay.
19:58:14 I used it on the iPad, so…
19:58:16 I'm not sure where it was located.
19:58:19 So would you look at the options, you know, in settings, do you think
19:58:24 No, it's not in settings. It's on the list on the side where you have albums and such and different kinds of screenshots and so on and so forth. It lists all of that. One of the options down at the bottom is
19:58:37 is duplicates. And then you can go through the duplicates. I probably got rid of like
19:58:41 There it is.
19:58:43 I found it.
19:58:42 I probably got rid of, yeah, I probably got rid of 200 duplicates after I found it. I was waiting in my dentist's office for them to clean my teeth.
19:58:52 So.
19:58:53 So I'm paying for an app to do that. It's some kind of a clean or it's
19:59:00 clean screen thing or whatever. Anyway, now I can get rid of that because I don't need to pay for it. And it did the exact same thing, only I think this works better.
19:59:11 Like…
19:59:10 Well, there are a whole bunch of duplicate finder things out there.
19:59:15 Yes.
19:59:15 And I'm very wary of them as a test
19:59:20 Several years ago, I used one of the duplicate finder ones to go through a database of
19:59:27 photos that I took at when I was at NOAA. I took 14,000
19:59:32 photos at NOAA, which is intriguing because I was not employed as a photographer. I was the internet project manager.
19:59:39 So taking photographs was not really part of my job.
19:59:42 But I had all these photos and I knew that a lot of them were duplicates because somebody wanted a bunch of them for this project, then a bunch of them for that project. So lots of them were duplicates.
19:59:52 I made a copy of my database and I told several duplicate finders to go through and find the duplicates.
19:59:58 And they would get rid of duplicates that were based upon size. So if it was the same size, they'd get rid of it. Well, just by coincidence, a lot of things really weren't the same photograph. They might have been taken two years apart, but they were very similar in size.
20:00:12 They would go through sometimes, depending upon the vendor, it would also get based upon the same time, but the time was down to the minute. And if you take a burst of photographs, the burst of photographs, you can take 60 unique photographs in a minute.
20:00:27 And it was throwing away things that I really wanted.
20:00:31 The nice thing about apples is it shows you, it says these are the duplicates. And I only showed you ones that had two options, but it's found as many as five. And it said, we found these duplicates. You want to get rid of the duplicates? And they say, yes.
20:00:47 It bases it upon what has the highest resolution and you looking at the photograph, you can tell. Yes, these are both pictures of a horse.
20:00:57 I want the one that's the highest resolution and that's the one it keeps. So the way in which it finds the duplicates, the way in which you
20:01:05 Confirm that it's a duplicate and
20:01:07 which one it chooses to get rid of, those all match my criteria for paranoia.
20:01:14 So…
20:01:16 Thank you.
20:01:15 Yeah, so mine, it's called uh clean my photos and and it would show you the pictures and it would let you select or not select the ones you wanted to keep or get rid of. And then by hitting, you know, then you just hit the button and they go away. So, but this works better because it does try to find the best one and it merges them in and all that stuff.
20:01:37 So yeah, I'm going to start using this one. And the reason I couldn't find it
20:01:49 Okay.
20:01:42 on my iPad was because that left hand column had slid away and all I had to do was grab it and pull it out and there it was.
20:01:51 So I'm a happy camper. Thank you.
20:02:01 Mm-hmm.
20:01:54 Yeah, this one was called something like clean sweep or something like that. They had clean in the name. It took my 14,000
20:02:04 Item item.
20:02:05 photo library and reduced it down to 3,000.
20:02:09 there were not that many duplicates. There were only about a thousand duplicates. So it was merciless.
20:02:17 And I couldn't figure out exactly how to do it. But that's why I did it on it. I made a duplicate
20:02:23 library just so I could have it play with it.
20:02:26 Because I'm very paranoid and not trustworthy.
20:02:29 So what one what um
20:02:33 What?
20:02:34 duplicate program do you use then?
20:02:37 I use the new one in Apple Photos. It's built into it, but it requires that you be running the new operating system.
20:02:46 Because it uses a lot of the
20:02:48 Is that Sequoia?
20:02:49 Yes.
20:02:52 Or if you have an iPad, it's iOS 18.
20:02:57 And again, it's probably on the, I don't know, I can look here.
20:03:01 It's probably on the phone, but I don't know that I…
20:03:06 went to.
20:03:08 Yes, you can look at duplicates on your phone but
20:03:15 Okay.
20:03:11 I'm not going to look at a postage stamp and try and decide if it's the right postage stamp. So not going to do that.
20:03:18 No.
20:03:20 I can, I don't know if this was the same on iOS 18 because I'm not there yet but
20:03:26 finding duplicates on iOS 17, and I think even on 16
20:03:31 If you have altered a photograph, for example, let's say you had paint
20:03:35 a paint smudge on your cheek
20:03:37 And there are, you know, like you photoshop that
20:03:41 any other app to get rid of the smudge
20:03:44 And save that as a separate picture so that you now have a picture without the smudge
20:03:49 It'll see both of those pictures as the same.
20:03:53 I don't think that's true anymore.
20:03:56 All right.
20:03:55 Because among other things, it'll change. If you do that, it'll change the resolution and the file size.
20:04:01 And it'll probably show you, it might show you as duplicate, but it's still giving you the choice of picking one or the other.
20:04:07 Right. It did do that.
20:04:11 As an example.
20:04:13 This, well, it's got a message on my screen.
20:04:17 This is a photograph of my granddaughter.
20:04:21 And what I did is I used the photo tool, which is built in now just to get rid of the background. So it looks like she's jumping in the air, which is exactly what she was doing.
20:04:29 Now it looks like there's no ground at all.
20:04:32 And that was done with photos.
20:04:35 it would not think this is a duplicate of the original photo because it's really a drastically different composition, doesn't have the background, different file size, different creation date.
20:04:46 Apple's fairly…
20:04:48 comprehensive and what it's looking at.
20:04:52 Good to know.
20:04:55 And again, this is not the sort of thing I'd ever do on my phone. I may get bored with my phone, but
20:05:01 No, I'm not going to do photo editing on my phone.
20:05:08 I am…
20:05:08 You said that you did find it on your phone and I can't seem to find it on my phone.
20:05:14 If you go into photos.
20:05:17 Just scroll down to the bottom and you'll see that there is
20:05:22 Under utilities, it says recently deleted duplicates receipts. It's got some of the same utilities. Actually, it's got all of them. You click on utilities, it brings up a whole list of utilities.
20:05:35 one of those.
20:05:33 Yeah, and I did that and it has recently deleted and and
20:05:38 Yeah, but one of those
20:05:39 And recently saved and all that stuff, but it does not have the
20:05:43 duplicates.
20:05:44 And you're using iOS 18?
20:05:47 18.0.1.
20:05:50 Here are the duplicates on my phone.
20:05:52 Interesting. I'm sure it's there. I'm missing it somewhere.
20:05:57 Yeah.
20:06:02 I highly encourage people, if you have
20:06:05 Technology, it allows you to upgrade to the new operating system on your phone, on your iPad.
20:06:11 On your Apple TV, on your Mac.
20:06:14 do it. It doesn't cost you anything except for time.
20:06:19 I do have some suggestions of what you should do, though.
20:06:23 get rid of trash in your trash can.
20:06:27 get rid of everything in your downloads folder. If you want to keep it, fine, but put it away. Don't leave it in your downfold folder.
20:06:34 get rid of things on your desktop.
20:06:37 And the reason is that the more things you have on your desktop, it takes
20:06:41 the Mac longer for it to go through and clean up everything.
20:06:45 Because everything on your desktop, it has to remember where it's located. Whereas if you stick it in a folder, it's just in a folder. So the Mac doesn't have to keep track of it when it's rebuilding your operating system and rebuilding your desktop doesn't have to keep track of all this stuff.
20:06:58 Get rid of your junk mail, get rid of your deleted mail, get rid of your deleted messages. By the way.
20:07:04 If you go into messages.
20:07:08 You can actually have filters and one of them is unknown senders.
20:07:11 If you click on unknown senders on your
20:07:16 on your messages.
20:07:20 I have banging on my hands and knees. We need money. Please verify so that they can ask for money. This group wants money. No one donated. Please, will 300 match your donation? We are stunned that you haven't donated.
20:07:38 If you go into your filters on messages and just go to unknown senders, you can probably get rid of 90% of the unknown senders, gets rid of messages.
20:07:47 on my
20:07:48 spouses phone.
20:07:51 Which I knew this because I was setting it up.
20:07:54 brand new phone. She's been quite hell, hasn't been paying attention to this. I deleted 900 messages.
20:08:02 Some of those messages had photographs of whoever's running for office.
20:08:07 I deleted enough messages in those 900 messages to clear up 1.2 gigabytes of space on her phone.
20:08:17 Hmm.
20:08:17 So getting rid of junk messages, getting rid of junk mail, getting rid of the trash in your mail and on the folder on your desktop, getting rid of all that stuff first.
20:08:29 will speed up your upgrade.
20:08:31 Because there's no point in your new mail system, because there is a new mail system with Sequoia.
20:08:38 Why do you want it to index your trash and your junk mail?
20:08:42 it just takes more time.
20:08:45 Clean up things first and then
20:08:48 you'll be happier.
20:08:54 Any other questions?
20:08:59 Hey, Larry, can I…
20:09:01 talk to you about an experience I just had with my phone.
20:09:04 As long as you don't call me Larry.
20:09:06 I'm sorry, Lawrence. Okay. Well, I went to Washington, D.C, and I spent a weekend there and took a whole bunch of great pictures of a lot of memorabia, and I was really happy about that.
20:09:18 It flew back and landed in SeaTac.
20:09:20 And then I went outside and I went to call my shuttle service to take me to my car. And all of a sudden they showed up. I picked up my bags and jumped into the shuttle.
20:09:30 And got to my car, drove all the way up here to swim
20:09:34 And I says, where's my phone? I couldn't find my phone and we tore the car, parked, got my luggage thrown apart. And my wife says, don't you have something that says find your phone? He says, well, yeah. So I got online on my computer.
20:09:48 And I looked and my phone was still on a bench down there in the terminal
20:09:53 Down in SeaTac. I could see it down and there it was. And I'm watching. I said, oh, man, that's gone forever. And then all of a sudden I saw the phone start moving. I could track it on a map.
20:10:04 And it went into a quality inn.
20:10:07 They're next to the airport. I could see that it was on the right hand side of the airport of the quality and on the second floor.
20:10:14 And so I called, it was like two o'clock in the morning.
20:10:17 I called up the hotel and I says.
20:10:20 My phone is in your hotel someplace on the second floor. She said, well, a bunch of people just checked in. I really can't help you. I says, well, if somebody finds it, you know, please, here's, I gave him my number. I says, please, please let me know. And it was, I had a lot of information on the phone plus all these historic pictures I took in Washington, D.C.
20:10:38 So I fretted about it all night long. Got up the next morning. I looked and here it was in the Quality Inn, but it started moving again. I could see it going up Route 99.
20:10:47 And it went all the way up to near the Boeing plant.
20:10:51 And it stopped at an address
20:10:53 And I zoomed in on the address and it was a company that I recognized. I looked up their phone number and I called the person down there. I said, somebody, do you have anybody that checked in at Equality Inn last night?
20:11:05 last night and picked up the phone.
20:11:05 And picked up the phone or they picked up my phone and they got it. It's in your building someplace
20:11:11 And she says, well, I don't know who that would be, but I'll check.
20:11:15 15 minutes later, she calls me back and says, we have your phone. So somebody…
20:11:20 Okay.
20:11:20 Picked it up off that bench had been sitting in SeaTac.
20:11:23 Checked into their hotel, took it to work with them.
20:11:27 I tracked them down using Find My.
20:11:30 And boy, I tell you, I was going to call Apple and say, thank you, thank you, thank you. So I drove all the way down to Seattle.
20:11:37 And I picked up the phone, give the guy a nice little tip, and I drove all the way back. But if I didn't have that fine, my, I would be buying a new phone.
20:11:46 That really worked.
20:11:47 there are some things that everybody should do.
20:11:51 Even if you have a desktop Mac.
20:11:53 Set it so that it can use find my. If you have an iPad, set it so you can use Find My. If you have an iPhone, set it so you can use Find My. The new AirPods Pro.
20:12:05 You can set it so that it uses find my
20:12:08 A lot of things can use Find My. That's one thing you should do. The second thing is Apple gives you by default a free five gigabytes worth of memory.
20:12:16 Alert from mail.
20:12:17 Excuse me. Johnson.
20:12:23 alert from mail? Hmm.
20:12:26 um the um
20:12:29 They give you five gigabytes.
20:12:31 But that five gigabytes has to cover everything that you're going to store, your photos, your text messages, your email, so on and so forth. And it's not enough.
20:12:40 go out and buy more
20:12:43 iCloud services so that, for example, if you lose your phone or someone takes your phone.
20:12:49 you don't lose your photographs because they're still in iCloud.
20:12:54 I hope my niece, different niece, I hope my niece doesn't actually hear what I'm saying but
20:13:01 She started taking pictures of her first child using her phone.
20:13:06 It was an Android phone.
20:13:08 She lost it when that child was 15 and she lost all of her photos. She had never backed them up.
20:13:15 So she lost 15 years worth of photos.
20:13:20 My brother left his phone on top of his car. He was going on vacation. He put the phone up there for a second while he was putting things away, left it up there, and he could see it fly off the car on the expressway as he's heading south and hit the ground and disintegrated.
20:13:37 He lost nothing.
20:13:38 because everything was backed up to iCloud.
20:13:42 so just
20:13:43 you can save yourself a lot of grief if you just have enough
20:13:47 iCloud storage to store everything.
20:13:49 Kathleen and I, we have a combined, we went with the two terabyte plan, which it sounds like a lot, but we've got it like two thirds full.
20:13:59 And it's also because it's on a family plan, our daughter in England is also on the same plan. So she goes out and takes pictures of her granddaughter. She can just upload them. We see them as soon as she uploads them.
20:14:14 It definitely beats sending email back and forth with photographs. We don't do that.
20:14:22 We use the
20:14:24 cloud storage. I shouldn't say email mail
20:14:27 I remember once um
20:14:28 I was applying for security clearance and they wanted photographs and so on and so forth. You don't want to know what they wanted. But I was like.
20:14:36 three pounds worth of photographs that I had to mail off to
20:14:40 one of the security services. That cost a fortune. And today, if I had to go through the same process, it cost me nothing.
20:14:47 Put it into email, send it off to them.
20:14:50 They get it faster, they get it more securely, and there's no extra cost.
20:14:55 So the iCloud services are
20:14:57 are a bargain. And you should check them out.
20:15:04 I got a notice.
20:15:07 that my iCloud
20:15:09 account is almost full.
20:15:12 A lot of the noses are from spammers. They're trying to
20:15:16 They're trying to get access to your account. So a lot of those notices, you won't get them in an email.
20:15:24 If your iCloud account is starting to be full.
20:15:29 you'll see a message on your phone, you'll see a message on your
20:15:32 your computer. Apple doesn't send you a message.
20:15:35 Yeah, it was on my phone.
20:15:38 But yes, if it's getting full.
20:15:41 then use your phone or use your computer. Don't respond to any email.
20:15:48 On the phone, for example, here.
20:15:50 I click on my name at the top of email
20:15:54 At the top of settings and there's a iCloud
20:15:59 And go in here and it says I have two terabytes there are
20:16:02 We have 24,191 items and photos.
20:16:05 2.7 gigabytes worth of stuff and uh
20:16:11 drive.
20:16:12 you don't want to know how much an email and messages. It's really quite frightening. But anyway, that's just the stuff that I've put up there. Then my daughter and
20:16:22 Kathleen have put up stuff there too, but it's all in one account.
20:16:27 And, um.
20:16:28 Because it's under the family plan, we can share it
20:16:31 across oceans.
20:16:33 So it's really not that expensive.
20:16:37 But then the question is.
20:16:41 I think
20:16:42 how would you be notified if you
20:16:45 We're going right up to the edge of those two terabytes.
20:16:50 Um…
20:16:52 I would probably find out for my daughter.
20:16:55 Because even though I'm the computer expert.
20:16:57 My daughter, for example.
20:17:00 knows things about her iPhone that I have never discovered.
20:17:04 My daughter would probably tell me, but realistically, if you
20:17:08 If you go into on your phone or you go into the apple
20:17:13 On your Mac. Up at the top, it has iCloud as an option where your name is listed and you click on iCloud.
20:17:21 And it gives you a little bar telling you how much storage you've used and
20:17:25 what's using them and all kinds of stuff.
20:17:28 And among other things, it tells you
20:17:30 It tells you how much space you have. So we still have plenty of space left.
20:17:36 We tend to use more space.
20:17:39 When we're upgrading a phone. And just as an FYI, if you upgrade your phone.
20:17:45 Apple temporarily gives you enough space
20:17:48 to upload everything on your old phone so you can pull it down on your new phone.
20:17:54 Because internet around here tends to be sucky.
20:17:57 With the old phone and the new phone, I set them down next to each other.
20:18:02 On my Wi-Fi and they suck stuff across and I left them next to each other overnight and everything that on Kathleen's old phone ended up on a new phone. We didn't go through iCloud because it would have been slower.
20:18:14 And I'm impatient.
20:18:18 There are…
20:18:20 local or internal um
20:18:23 Network in our house is much faster than the internet.
20:18:27 I went to my name.
20:18:29 And it said 200 gigs.
20:18:32 And I have 109.2 gigs used.
20:18:36 Well, in that case, you have lots of space and you probably aren't saving photos and documents, and you really should.
20:18:44 It's a…
20:18:44 Yeah, I do have photos on and i have
20:18:48 iCloud Drive. I don't have mail on.
20:18:52 You should. Because again, this saves all of that stuff
20:18:57 It'll be on two places. It'll be on your computer or your phone, and it'll be someplace else. As an example of why this is good, I have a friend who is a retired NOAA person who lives in
20:19:09 Florida, because he's from the East Coast and doesn't know any better.
20:19:12 His house was destroyed in the recent hurricane.
20:19:15 And his phone was on his nightstand. Well, when the house went down, there was no power and he just left and has no idea where his phone is. He didn't lose anything on the phone because it was all in iCloud. He went into an Apple store in
20:19:29 Boca Raton, which is on the other side of florida
20:19:33 bought an iPhone and within 15 minutes he had his email, he had all of his
20:19:38 phone, all of his contacts, everything on the new phone.
20:19:41 Because it was in iCloud.
20:19:44 At that point, it's not just on your device. It's also someplace else.
20:19:50 Good.
20:19:51 Lawrence, I have a question on the family
20:19:54 plan that you're talking about.
20:19:56 Can you post photos up there?
20:20:00 Does everybody automatically get to see them who's in the plan or can they be
20:20:04 No, they don't they don't
20:20:04 somehow marked as
20:20:06 for different uses.
20:20:07 No, my photos are mine. Kathleen's photos are hers.
20:20:13 My daughter's photos are hers.
20:20:15 But when we share them.
20:20:16 But when we share them.
20:20:18 It just basically creates a link to whatever it is we're sharing so it happens instantaneously.
20:20:22 It's not like when you have to email things to people.
20:20:26 When she shares a photo of our granddaughter, it just immediately appears and is available.
20:20:33 to us. So that's
20:20:36 Yes, she explicitly does that.
20:20:34 But she does share that and you say share this with her. It just doesn't automatically go to everybody.
20:20:42 Thank you.
20:20:40 No, no. If you think about a lot of the stuff that people do, I will go to Costco and I'll take photographs of things that I see at Costco and send them to Kathleen. Say, do you want this one or do you want this one? She wanted me to go
20:20:56 to QFC and get white sauce.
20:20:59 And I had no idea what white sauce was.
20:21:02 I went and took photographs of things that were not white sauce and sent them to her. And she told me what white sauce was.
20:21:08 Well, those are going to be on iCloud because I took them with my phone. But no, there's no reason on earth to share those with my daughter.
20:21:17 No, it's only stuff that I pick out.
20:21:21 No receipts, no receipts.
20:21:23 none of my, almost all the stuff I do in Japanese history, my daughter has zero interest in.
20:21:30 you know, that's
20:21:31 That's not what it's for. It's for stuff that you explicitly want to.
20:21:35 Like, for example, on Saturday, I was driving and I had to get someplace in a hurry and I didn't.
20:21:41 But if I had had the time.
20:21:43 There was an absolutely stunning sunset on Saturday.
20:21:47 And I would have taken a photograph of that and sent it to her.
20:21:51 But I didn't get it because I was
20:21:53 had some place to be.
20:21:58 Any other questions?
20:21:59 I have a question for the rest of you.
20:22:01 Which is what do you want to do next month?
20:22:05 Okay.
20:22:09 Can we send you suggestions?
20:22:11 Yes, absolutely. Send me suggestions.
20:22:15 That way you're not on the spot tonight.
20:22:21 With that, I
20:22:23 Does that usually give you some results? I mean, do you always get suggestions or usually or
20:22:29 I will tell you that about 80% of the suggestions come from one person.
20:22:36 Well, that's good. As long as somebody's got an imagination, I don't.
20:22:42 Well, there are a lot of things that people don't really understand. Like I can do things with a word processor that most people have never
20:22:49 tried to do.
20:22:52 So there are a lot of there are a lot of things that people
20:22:56 One of the problems that you have with teaching
20:22:58 And I've done lots and lots of teaching.
20:23:01 is trying to find the sweet spot between overwhelming people and telling people things that they already know.
20:23:11 people when they already know something, they say, well, I don't want to know any more about that. That kind of mentally, they say, I don't want to know anymore about it. But usually what they know about a subject tends to be very small. If I ask all of you, do you know how to use a word processor? Yes. So do you want to have a session on WordPress? No, no, I know how to use a word processor.
20:23:29 I assure you, I know more about word processors than probably all of you combined.
20:23:34 that doesn't necessarily mean you want to know more.
20:23:37 So the question is, what do you want? What would be of interest to you that
20:23:43 that would be worthwhile.
20:23:46 Well, speaking of that, next time we meet, 18.1 should be available and there will be some of the apple ai
20:23:54 Yeah.
20:23:55 Which would summarize
20:23:56 parts of word processing documents i understand
20:23:59 And same for messages and so forth. That would be something I would like to see.
20:24:03 that's not a that's a that's actually a good
20:24:08 Okay.
20:24:06 That's actually good. If it comes out between now and our meeting next month, that definitely would be good.
20:24:12 topic because I have definite opinions about
20:24:15 artificial intelligence, in case you hadn't noticed.
20:24:19 Apple just found some weaknesses in the large language models.
20:24:23 Did you read that?
20:24:25 No, but I've read other people complaints about that.
20:24:30 And again, one of the problems that bothers me is that I see all these people thinking of ways they can use artificial intelligence and a lot of it is
20:24:40 is harmful to a society.
20:24:42 Like when I call up a doctor's office to make an appointment, I do not want to talk to a virtual person.
20:24:49 I just don't. Either you give me a calendar and let me plug down what I want, or you have me talk to a person. But having a robot talk to me is not helpful.
20:25:00 And if I'm having a problem with
20:25:02 You know, like if I couldn't figure out how to transfer Kathleen's old phone number to the new phone number.
20:25:09 I can call up Verizon and talk to their virtual assistant.
20:25:12 That virtual assistant is pretty damn stupid.
20:25:14 It's not going to help me and yet
20:25:17 If you read about what people want to do, they want to get rid of receptionists, want to get rid of help desk. They want to get rid of greeters. The things that they want to do are
20:25:29 harmful to our society because it gets rid of a lot of jobs.
20:25:33 But they're also harmful to society because they don't really solve the problem that you have.
20:25:40 Yeah.
20:25:39 And that is you go into a store, the store says that they're super friendly and they want to be your friend, and yet you can't talk to anybody.
20:25:48 I don't know if any of you ever watch any of the late night TV shows. I watch them record it. I don't actually watch them.
20:25:53 All the time. But the Colbert show, the late night show
20:25:58 Constantly making fun of Dwayne Reid, which is a…
20:26:02 drugstore in New York City.
20:26:03 If you've ever been to New York City and you walk into a Duane Reid, you'd understand why everybody makes fun of it.
20:26:10 Everything is locked up.
20:26:12 everything because they're trying to cut down on shoplifting.
20:26:16 there is nobody to ask questions. You go to the register and there's nobody at the register.
20:26:22 I used to joke in Sears that you could spend an hour shopping in Sears and never find anybody at a register.
20:26:29 Mm-hmm.
20:26:29 That's probably one reason why Sears doesn't have stores all over the place because
20:26:32 you have something you want to buy and there's nobody at the register.
20:26:37 We don't need to get rid of human beings. We need to find jobs for human beings. And replacing
20:26:42 Thank you.
20:26:43 people with virtual assistants and help desk with virtual assistants.
20:26:47 That might be what they think AI is for, but A, it's not really artificial intelligence. And B, it doesn't solve
20:26:55 the problem, which is the problem is
20:26:57 Yeah.
20:26:57 You want to talk to a human being.
20:27:00 Okay.
20:27:00 Chris was…
20:27:00 Google wasn't like that.
20:27:01 Pardon?
20:27:03 You can't talk to a human being at Google, apparently.
20:27:06 Google's always been that way. That's nothing new.
20:27:10 I'm used to that. I know how to get to Google's attention, though. I've been working with them for 25 years.
20:27:16 So I know how to get their attention. Like, for example.
20:27:19 They had the when they had the
20:27:23 What's the name of the room? Woodcock Road, which is outside of where we live.
20:27:27 The bridge was out for years when we moved here. There wasn't a bridge. The bridge got washed away in a flood before we moved here.
20:27:34 Google insisted there was a road there, and Willis torqued me off.
20:27:38 And so I pestered them in a highly technical way for them to mark the bridge as being out so that when it routed me, it would route me around that.
20:27:49 But that took me about two months, but at least I did get their attention.
20:27:55 They've always been that way where you don't talk to a person. You have to talk to them electronically.
20:28:00 And you have to be a little bit sneaky about it.
20:28:05 Hmm.
20:28:06 And then when the bridge came back, I told them about it and they instantly updated. So, you know, they…
20:28:12 I did learn.
20:28:16 All right, with that, I'm going to bid you all a good night.
20:28:20 Yep. Good night. Thank you.
20:28:21 Thank you.
20:28:22 Thank you very much.

Very busy October for Apple

Apple updates as of October 30, 2024

So far this week, Apple has released:

New Macs

  • A new, much more powerful set of 24″ iMacs with a new M4 chip, coming with a standard 16 GB of memory (up from the past 8 GB). I recommend that if you get one, you opt for the model with four Thunderbolt 4 ports (instead of the baseline two) and get a minimum of 1 terabyte of storage.
  • a new Mac mini with an M4 or an M4 Pro processor and a standard 16 GB of memory (up from the past 8 GB). I would recommend at least one terabyte of storage. The upgraded M4 Pro model also offers Thunderbolt 5 ports (up to 120 GBb/sec) instead of Thunderbolt 4 (40 Gb/sec) ports. The mini comes without a display, keyboard or mouse, but is otherwise currently Apple’s fastest desktop machine.
  • a new set of MacBook Pro with an M4, M4 Pro, or M4 Max processor and a standard 16 GB of memory (up from the past 8 GB). I would recommend at least one terabyte of storage. The higher-end models have Thunderbolt 5 ports, and you can add up to 128 GB of memory.

Apple Intelligence

  • a software update that allows the AirPods Pro 2 to offer a hearing test, and hearing protection, and function as a clinical-grade hearing aid.
  • software updates that bring the first elements of Apple Intelligence to certain models of iPhone, iPad, and Macintosh laptop and desktop machines.
  • a new iPad mini (technically introduced last week)

Software updates

  • iOS 18.1 and iPadOS 18.1: brings Apple Intelligence to higher-end iPads and iPhones, plus has function bug fixes and security fixes to phones dating back to the iPhone XS.
  • iOS 17.7.1 and iPadOS 17.7.1: function bug fixes and security fixes to iPhones dating back to the iPhone XS.
  • macOS Sequoia 15.1: brings Apple Intelligence to Apple Silicon-based computers and function bug fixes and security fixes to machines running macOS Sequoia.
  • macOS Sonoma 14.7.1: brings function bug fixes and security fixes to machines running macOS Sonoma.
  • macOS Ventura 13.7.1: brings function bug fixes and security fixes to machines running macOS Ventura.
  • watchOS 11.1: brings function bug fixes and security fixes to Apple Watches running watchOS 11.
  • tvOS 18.1: brings function bug fixes and security fixes to Apple TVs running tvOS 18.
  • visionOS 2.1: brings Apple Intelligence and function bug fixes and security fixes to Apple Vision Pro.
  • HomePod 18.1: brings function bug fixes and security fixes to HomePod. HomePod software is not something you can check in an obvious way; see Apple’s directions on updating.

It is only Wednesday, and there is a possibility Halloween could bring something new, too.

Artificial Intelligence – A.I. – April 2024

Artificial Intelligence – A.I. – April 2024

By request, we talked about Artificial Intelligence (AI) at the April 2024 meeting. Rather than talk about all the different AI wannabees, we limited the scope of discussion to some general areas, such as: what is the difference between artificial intelligence and clever programming; are there dangers to AI and what are they; why should I, a run-of-the-mill home user, care about AI? While artificial intelligence research encompasses computer science, linguistics, cognitive science, mathematics, neuroscience, ethics, engineering, robotics, physics, and writing scary headlines as clickbait, we didn’t cover any of that.

This image was created, for example, with Adobe’s Firefly AI for illustrations. Using it requires little more than an Adobe paid account and some idea of what you want as a result:

Mona Lisa painting a portrait of Leonardo da Vinci, created with the help of Adobe’s Firefly AI.
Mona Lisa painting a portrait of Leonardo da Vinci, created with the help of Adobe’s Firefly AI.

Two pieces of homework were assigned as a pre-briefing for the April meeting.

First, is this video created with Artificial Intelligence?

The Japanese Zodiac done in Apple Memoji

Second, a brief overview of Artificial Intelligence:

Some basics on AI — Artificial Intelligence

Artificial intelligence is allegedly coming to the Mac, iPhone, and iPad this fall, and possibly to Apple TV and the Apple Watch.

Slides presented at meeting

The meeting video shows a few live demonstrations of AI, plus much discussion on possible uses and problems.

Video recording of the April 23, 2024 meeting

Transcript of the April 2024 meeting

18:32:21 Did you make those videos that are homework videos?
18:32:25 Yes.
18:32:26 So that was you behind the
18:32:29 Yes, that was me behind the emoji.
18:32:33 Pretty clever.
18:33:44 For those joining, I have turned on recording. And also close captioning. If anyone objects to that, please tell me.
18:33:56 And, we usually start the meeting with a question to answer. So does anyone have any questions?
18:34:06 Well, I'm looking at the settings on the iPad for Zoom and I don't see anything about it.
18:34:13 Anything other than a microphone, there's nothing to adjust for sound. On the, at least not on my iPad.
18:34:19 Okay. Okay.
18:34:26 Cool.
18:34:27 I, you're muted.
18:34:32 Yes.
18:34:29 Okay, I have a question. How do you, fuzz or I don't know the proper term the background.
18:34:40 Everyone seems to.
18:34:40 On Zoom.
18:34:45 I'll put volume.
18:34:49 Let me try that. What was the question again?
18:34:52 I don't know if it's if you say fuzz the background. Or make the background so it's not like you can see all your background.
18:35:05 Okay.
18:35:05 But somebody said that you can kind of make it so it isn't all all the background.
18:35:10 Yes. If you're on a desktop or laptop, go up to it says Zoom workplace or Zoom if you have an older version settings.
18:35:20 And then there's background and effects. And the second effect over is blur.
18:35:27 Okay, so where do I go? You'll see showers and can expect a high of 53°F and a lower 44 degrees.
18:35:30 Go to the zoom go down to settings in the zoom menu. Go to background and effects, which is about halfway down.
18:35:45 And the second setting over is blur. You click that and it blurs the background.
18:35:50 I, I just have smug on here. So I don't I'm probably not hitting the right thing
18:35:58 Are you in Zoom? Are you using just a browser?
18:36:02 No, I hit. I hit the top. And it says mute, you know, that with video blah blah.
18:36:12 And then there's a zoom and a check.
18:36:21 Nice.
18:36:16 And then when I do that, it says smug, 1,900. The number, the pass code.
18:36:24 The perip participants encrypted.
18:36:30 Okay.
18:36:30 Then I hit the people that are on there and then we get more people.
18:36:35 Yeah, well above that in in the main menu for the computer There should be something, there should be a zoom or a zoom workplace.
18:36:45 Menu way up at the top next to the Apple menu. And under that is settings. And settings has something there for backgrounds and you can pick various backgrounds.
18:36:57 I used to.
18:37:00 I used to use the blurred.
18:37:06 Okay.
18:36:57 Okay, I'll check it. Oh, I'll go on my computer and do it. I'm on my tablet.
18:37:08 Oh, on the tablet. I, I don't know how to do this on the tablet.
18:37:12 Okay.
18:37:12 It's on the bottom if it's a tablets on if it's an iPad it's along the bottom You have to tap up above the black area.
18:37:20 To get all of the icons to pop up. And then way over at the right before the leave red X.
18:37:27 There are 3 dots. It says more. That pops up something that says apps meeting settings.
18:37:34 Backgrounds and effects, which is what you want. Backgrounds in effect. So you Yeah, now you're blur.
18:37:36 Yes. And it says blur. Blush your heart.
18:37:45 Okay.
18:37:40 Yes. And you just. Yes, you just blurred your background. I will tell you a disadvantage of a blurred background.
18:37:50 Okay.
18:37:52 I'll show you right the second. I'm holding up this orange. Hard drive.
18:37:59 If I go and I blur my background and I go into settings. And pick, background.
18:38:05 Blur and I Hold my, I need to find my mouse again. My mouse disappeared and I hold this up.
18:38:14 It kind of fades in and out of reality because it's focused on my face and it doesn't really see this if it's someplace that if it's not my face.
18:38:30 Oh.
18:38:24 So these things tend to disappear. And so it makes me, it makes it difficult for me to demonstrate things because If I have the background, it blurs that stuff.
18:38:35 So. My background now is this canvas. Print of the Pocosi print, very famous Hokusai.
18:38:46 Print.
18:38:49 I'm very fond of Hokusai, but then again, I'm a Japanese historian, so that's.
18:38:54 You know, hard for the course.
18:38:59 Any other questions?
18:39:10 Well, I will tell you a couple things while we're waiting for other people to come on and possibly have a questions.
18:39:16 First, st Apple is having their worldwide developer conference. On June 10th through the 14.th you, you can participate virtually online.
18:39:29 It's aimed at hardware and software developers, but they always have interesting things that you don't have to be a specialist to understand.
18:39:36 And then, the most important thing is that on the very 1st day, at 10 am they have a keynote and the keynote talks about their plans their software plans for the most part for the rest of the year and Sometimes they cover hardware as well.
18:39:55 But it's well worth seeing and it's it's free. And they just announced today.
18:40:03 A special event that they're going to have. And a ridiculous time it's it's going to be at 7 a.
18:40:10 M. On the 7th of May. They're having a special event and the graphic for it suggests that it's going to be, have something to do with the iPad.
18:40:20 But, these things are free and you can just log in to the Apple site and watch them.
18:40:30 If you have an Apple TV, the, you can use your Apple TV to watch them, which is what we do.
18:40:36 At home.
18:40:40 And. There are also been some updates to various Apple. Operating systems for iPads, laptops.
18:40:51 Desktops iPhones, whatnot, since our last meeting. Mostly security. Updates, but one thing that everybody could use is they've added some more emoji.
18:41:07 Which I always find a fun thing to play with. I like to send my daughter.
18:41:14 Strictic messages written entirely in emoji. She lives in England, so sometimes it's a mixture of US and British humor and she sits and puzzles them out and then says, Oh, Dad.
18:41:27 Which is appropriate.
18:41:30 Any questions anyone has?
18:41:40 Do you have any experience with back blaze on line backup service?
18:41:45 I use it. I've used it since, before we moved out here. When we moved out here and.
18:41:54 2,018. I have a huge amount of data, photographs and whatnot and While I shipped my computer, I wasn't.
18:42:05 Confident that they would drive in one in a in in good shape. So before I shipped it, I, synced everything I had up to back place.
18:42:15 Backplays is an online cloud service. And I don't remember how much it costs.
18:42:21 The, advantage that it has is that when you're off late, if you upload things to back place, it's done automated.
18:42:29 There's just a process it runs a new machine and it constantly updates. As you create new things, and they get updated, to back place.
18:42:39 And happens in the background and The price covers whether you have a lot of data or a little data. In my case, I currently have a 24 TB.
18:42:53 Of information stored on back place. And if I only had, you know, like. 50 gb would have been the same price.
18:43:02 They don't charge you for that. The good news bad news is it happens in the background.
18:43:07 I never noticed that it's happening. It doesn't slow me down at all. But given the kind of internet, we have around here.
18:43:15 It would probably take a while if you had like a terabyte of data you wanted to. Upload, it would take a while for it to get uploaded simply because it can't go any faster than your internet.
18:43:27 Connection. But, it's It's invisible to me. And doesn't cost that much money.
18:43:37 And it's a it's a good backup service. It's not a replacement for.
18:43:44 Time machine, time machine backs up a local copy. And if you lose something, it's much easier to pull it off with time machine.
18:43:52 Than it is off and back base. It's not difficult off of back place, but, among other things that it requires that you have.
18:43:59 Your machine setup with backlays that you go and search for the stuff and it's it's just.
18:44:06 It's slower and less convenient than time machine. Back blaze is, My, I, thoroughly endorse the.
18:44:15 Service. I've used it now for what?
18:44:20 7, 8 years and, never had any trouble. If you have a lot of data, they even have a restore.
18:44:29 By disk service so that if someone comes and steals your your computer and you have to start from scratch.
18:44:37 You buy a new computer and they'll ship you a drive and then you can copy it off of that drive.
18:44:44 You have to ship the drive back, but, it's, it's, I've never had to do that.
18:44:48 I'm just saying that they think about things like this. Because you have terabytes of of data.
18:44:59 Thank you.
18:44:54 It, it does take a while to transfer it back and forth. backlays because of the service that they have also has, they have these drive, reliability reports that I use when I'm purchasing.
18:45:12 Storage. Because they buy tens of thousands of drives and they're in constant use. And so they can tell you whether or not.
18:45:21 Drives are prone to dine or if they're more robust. I've last several years, every, any time I bought them.
18:45:31 Hard drive. I've gone to their site and checked out their. Stats for it. They've got some, geeks who were quite passionate about doing very strange statistics on hard drive.
18:45:47 So. It's always entertaining to see what they have to say.
18:45:52 Any other questions?
18:46:01 Paul, you're muted. Oh, you're not muted anymore.
18:46:03 I just unmuted. Okay, I have a question. I got scam the other day. I was reading a, an article.
18:46:14 On the PDM, they have I have their app. So you can read the newspaper. Now is reading it.
18:46:20 They have an app. They have an app? I didn't know. Oh.
18:46:22 What? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, can you, if, if you subscribe to the PDN.
18:46:31 You get the app and you, you can get the You can get articles and then it actually just looks like newspaper.
18:46:38 You can do whatever either way. But anyway, I was I was in the. Newspaper mode the editions mode and I was reading the article and I finished the article and this this window came up with a sort of a flashing pulsing.
18:46:55 Thing it was it was pink or red or something and it said take our survey. Okay, this is the PD and I put this I clicked on that and it had a little simple survey and I Complete that.
18:47:10 That is said, for taking the survey, you have a chance to enterprise. So, and it was late at night, so I wasn't thinking real clearly.
18:47:17 And so I clicked on that and this little machine came out and drew something out of a box and there wasn't anything. And I said, try again.
18:47:27 You have 2 more chances. I did another one and I drew up. A prize. It was a
18:47:34 IA iPhone 15 I think. Anyway, it said you've won this prize And, you just have to.
18:47:43 Hey, $9 50 for shipping and handling. Of sounds reasonable. And again, I keep thinking, well, this is a This is a.
18:47:53 Most of the news things so it. Should be fairly safe. So anyway, I clicked on that and put in my credit card knowing that if it was a scan light.
18:48:01 Oh no.
18:48:02 I'd, Go ahead and check my credit card and cancel. A cancel the transaction, which is what happens.
18:48:13 I clicked on the thing and it put up an error message and said can't complete there's an error.
18:48:18 And so I thought, oh, oh, so I, I mean, and they call the credit card and sure enough.
18:48:24 Somebody had. But a thing, a, transaction for a hundred $30 worth of, cosmetics and somewhere in eastern Canada.
18:48:38 Okay.
18:48:37 So they cancel and I cancel my card and had to wait for a week to get a new card. Now my question is, Was that something that was on?
18:48:46 There website or is that something that's invaded my phone?
18:48:50 Or how would we tell?
18:48:50 The answer is The answer is it's probably from the. Peninsula Daily News site.
18:49:04 Yeah.
18:48:59 One of the problems that I'll tell you my own story. Kind of his background. I was, I was on.
18:49:10 A site. I remember I've been a member since I was 17 at the US Naval Institute, which is a scholarly organization that, talks about the Navy and maritime law and so on so forth.
18:49:23 And I was on their website and this. Company was selling a model. Of of aircraft and there's 1 particular aircraft that the Navy used to have called it and a 5 vigilante that I think is one of the most beautiful planes ever made Doesn't make anything any difference about any of that, but it's just they had this model of this airplane.
18:50:00 Yeah.
18:49:52 So I clicked on that and it went to the model makers. Site and I saw that it was a hundred $40 and I lost interest but it was, it was a beautiful model, but it was also 140 bucks.
18:50:06 The next day when I went on to the Washington Post site I was kept on getting ads from. Lockheed and Macdonald Douglas for fighter planes.
18:50:18 Ha ha!
18:50:27 Okay. Yeah.
18:50:18 No, I personally just I'm just not I was a civil servant in the United States and they don't pay us enough for us to buy our own private fighter plane, but That is how that is how the advertising industry works.
18:50:35 Google in particular will sell people search histories. Advertisers plus they use it for their own advertising.
18:50:41 And when you go on to the Washington Post, the Washington Post sells the advertising space to a vendor to put up ads, but the Washington Post has no idea what they're going to be advertising.
18:50:56 Yeah.
18:50:56 They do the in in the in the wild West days that they started off they would they had no constraints at all.
18:51:04 So for example, the Washington Post for a couple of weeks was putting up ads for call girls.
18:51:13 Yeah.
18:51:11 They didn't realize that they were doing that. But, but, they started putting limitations on what you could have on sites.
18:51:19 And so things like, Scholastic, which is a, publishing company that targets children.
18:51:27 They, ads have to be things that children can do and not require credit cards and so on and so forth.
18:51:36 Whereas for adults, if you go into the Washington Post, they'll still try and tell you, sell you a fighter plane, but, No, more call, girls.
18:51:42 Yep.
18:51:45 So they do put restrictions on it. But the fact is that when Washington Post sells that space or, Peninsula, Daily News sells that space.
18:51:56 The vendor selling the advertising can put up there whatever they want. There are constraints in terms of the size and how much text it is and so on and so forth, but if somebody wants to establish a shell company and put up fake advertising in order to collect people's credit cards.
18:52:14 There's not much that peninsula daily dues can do about it. But having said that, I would tell Peninsula Daily News.
18:52:23 Because they essentially are selling that service. And they should know that the service that whoever is running the service probably is doing a bad job.
18:52:41 Yeah.
18:52:36 I was surprised recently to find out the potential the daily news is actually owned by a Canadian company. I didn't realize that until recently, which
18:52:44 Well, I did. I, I let them know. I told him and, Person I talked to passed it on pass the message on to their tech person so I assume that the least they have the information that I was not right.
18:53:00 Yeah, but. The the the simple fact is that probably Peninsula Daily News had nothing to do with this other than they sold the space.
18:53:10 Yeah, yeah.
18:53:10 In terms of how you can protect yourself.
18:53:16 I will tell you, I will tell you things that I do to protect myself. I do not ever ever ever spend money based upon and I, text message.
18:53:29 So if I get a text message on my phone. You like, I recently bought some shoes and the company that I bought the shoes from, text messages me, Hey, we got sales on this, that and the other thing.
18:53:41 If I decide that I really want those shoes, I will go on to their website from my desktop.
18:53:46 Explicitly go to their website and do a transaction there. I don't do it via text message and the same is true for things like ads like the.
18:54:00 I wouldn't have bought it within that box. I would have, quit out of the Naval Institute.
18:54:07 It would have gone to their website and done it that way. In terms of those contests, the contests are actually fairly They're fairly common.
18:54:18 There are vendors that go out there and actually manage contests for publishers because the publishers of newspapers and so on so forth like to sell ads and the more they know about you the better for selling you ads.
18:54:33 And so the other companies have set up these setup operations where they have contests. As an example, I recently bought some hard drives and at the end of my transaction, they had a survey.
18:54:47 And if you fill out the survey, then you can get a prize. And the price from this company is always a free magazine subscription.
18:54:53 Okay.
18:54:53 And there were things like house and garden and, home beautiful and so on and so forth. There's not a chance that I would ever read any of those, so I ignore that.
18:55:04 But I'm aware that they do that and that is a legitimate thing for them to do. But what they really this company that's selling you that's giving away these free subscriptions.
18:55:15 What they want is your name, your address. Where you live, so on so forth, so they can sell.
18:55:21 Things to you, then make you a better customer. So it's not really free because you're actually giving up some of your privacy.
18:55:29 Yeah.
18:55:29 But again, if I wanted to magazine, I'd go to the magazine. And I subscribe to it.
18:55:34 I don't respond to text messages. I don't respond to sale boxes within an app unless it's for that same company like for example if it's Washington Post wanting to sell me a book okay I'll go with that.
18:55:48 If I'll use the Washington Post app for that. But, you do have to be.
18:55:55 You do have to be. Wary and to give you an example specifically for this year this is an election year.
18:56:04 Roughly 2 thirds of the Messages that are sent out saying, please support our our candidate. The candidate doesn't actually get the money.
18:56:17 As in they have an example of the, a guy who ran for, and one in in Florida, a guy ran for and he won and congressional seat.
18:56:30 100% of the money that was collected by this one group in his name went to the guy who was running the collect money collecting operation.
18:56:40 His claim was that the operation cost so much money there wasn't anything left over to give to the candidate.
18:56:47 Ha!
18:56:51 Yeah.
18:56:47 So you want to be really careful about. How you give money and who you get money to. Like, another thing that people commonly do, I recently had one saying that my, My, Netflix account had expired and I thought, oh really?
18:57:07 So I looked at the email that it came from and the visible part of the. Email said it was netflix.com.
18:57:17 Okay, that's fine. But then it was dot. Gmail. So in other words, they created the domain that went to Gmail saying that my next, account, had expired.
18:57:28 Google doesn't track Netflix accounts. They, and, Netflix would never use Google to to.
18:57:39 To get you to resubscribe. So no, it was just, it was a scam.
18:57:43 But they came up with a, with an email address that looked. If you didn't look too closely like it might have come from Netflix.
18:57:49 You have to be, you have to be paranoid.
18:57:55 Yeah, I've since received a couple of request to fill out surveys and they look legit but I don't know they can do without my information.
18:58:06 Well, because it is an election year that you're gonna see a lot of people went to survey you.
18:58:13 Yeah.
18:58:13 Do you believe that toddler should be allowed to arm themselves to protect themselves in preschool?
18:58:19 Yes or no? Okay, I'm not gonna answer that. Survey. Yeah.
18:58:26 No, there's a lot of good stuff, yeah.
18:58:27 Yeah. Any other question? Yes.
18:58:29 Hi, I got one of those Netflix membership is expired. And we pay ours automatically. Every month and it comes out of my bank account.
18:58:43 So then.
18:58:43 Well, I I pay mine with my credit card so what I do is if I get something like that and it is from Netflix I do pay attention because it might be a credit card that's going to be expiring before the renewal.
18:58:59 So I'll check that way. But that's something I can do in my own home. I don't need to.
18:59:05 I, I don't need to do anything else.
18:59:08 Yes.
18:59:05 Yeah, well this says has expired. And the one my bank hasn't expired.
18:59:12 And also if if that was in danger of happening, Netflix would tell you they wouldn't tell you.
18:59:17 Right.
18:59:19 So be paranoid.
18:59:23 It's kind of a shame because Computers when they were originally, when I started using computers, computers were designed for computing.
18:59:30 They They add, subtract, and multiply, divided, they can do complex equations, so on and so forth.
18:59:36 Now we used computers chiefly as a communications tool. And because we use them chiefly as a communications tool.
18:59:40 Yeah.
18:59:43 They can be abused because they're a lot more powerful than the old telephone. This my iPhone here is more powerful than all the computers in the world combined in 1,970.
18:59:59 Just by itself. So this is an incredibly powerful Unix based computer and it happens to be in my pocket and I use it to play games when I'm in a waiting room at the doctor's office.
19:00:11 But you know.
19:00:11 Yeah.
19:00:14 Yeah.
19:00:15 It's a pity we have to be paranoid, but we do. And it is 7 o'clock and I should think about talking to our president.
19:00:25 Hello, President.
19:00:26 Hello Lawrence, how are you?
19:00:28 I'm fine.
19:00:29 Speaking of doctors offices, how is Kathleen?
19:00:33 I mean, that's a complicated question. She one sequence of therapy and we didn't get the result we wanted or that they wanted either and we're waiting for a bunch of referrals to come up with plan B.
19:00:49 Yeah.
19:00:49 So. She spends a lot of time snoozing. Right now.
19:00:57 But she's still at home. Okay.
19:01:00 And
19:00:58 Yes. In fact, he's watching the. The, the, meeting on our TV.
19:01:09 Yeah.
19:01:07 I'm using the Apple TV team. Rebarcast, the Zoom session.
19:01:13 Okay. Hi Kathleen. We miss you.
19:01:17 Okay.
19:01:18 I don't know if you could hurt here, but she said hi.
19:01:20 Okay.
19:01:20 Okay, I really don't have anything besides well just welcome everybody and
19:01:30 One second.
19:01:30 You're, it's going to tell us that I haven't sent in the invoices.
19:01:36 I know. I'm a bad boy.
19:01:38 Yeah.
19:01:37 Okay. And can you put in the sign in sheet on the.
19:01:46 I did put it in there, but I can copy it and. Hey, paste it again.
19:01:52 Okay.
19:01:52 I don't think I know how to do that well.
19:01:57 In the, meeting chat window is the link to the sign in sheet. And I use that for among other things, telling people that we have meetings.
19:02:09 Meeting chat.
19:02:06 So please, fill it out. And it would be immensely useful.
19:02:15 Okay, and now we have the Treasury report. Sound a free to look forward. That's we have thank you to the one member will send in the Do so we got $24 more than last month so we are at $2,442 and 93 cents
19:02:39 Until I send in invoice and then we'll have somewhat less better.
19:02:44 Yeah, there's a little bit less. Yeah, send it in when you have a chance.
19:02:51 Anything else before I do the presentation?
19:02:54 Are we gonna have any in person meetings anytime soon?
19:02:59 The answer to that is, with spring and it being warmer and more light outside, the answer is yes.
19:03:08 I would like suggestions in terms of what the what the. Topic would be I like in person meetings because among other things I'm assured it reminds me that there are really people out there who aren't small little boxes on my screen.
19:03:25 So, I like those. Plus.
19:03:27 You already have some ideas that you wanted to do that had to be done in person because of bandwidth.
19:03:35 Yes, there's some things that I want to do a in person because If I'm, we might run into of an issue today when I'm talking about artificial intelligence.
19:03:46 When there are certain things that I would like to demonstrate that. There's a good chance it'll interrupt the Zoom stream.
19:03:56 So. There are some things that are just a little bit difficult to do unless we do them.
19:04:00 Live, but, yes, there are some things I would like to. Like to pursue, but in terms of an in person meeting, yes, it would be nice if we had something in the May, June, July type, timeframe.
19:04:16 We can't meet at the library. Kathleen and I are planning tomorrow. To go to a groundbreaking ceremony where they break ground for the new library.
19:04:28 Yeah.
19:04:25 The library invited us because we're special people. So, we're going to go to that and the after they get done with the expansion, they're going to have a lot more.
19:04:37 Computer resources. So it will be curious to see if it's of, If it's something we can, take advantage of.
19:04:45 I don't exactly know what they're doing because they talk about it in general terms. I might find out tomorrow.
19:04:56 Yeah.
19:04:56 Yeah.
19:04:52 Lawrence, when you do AI tonight, can you really dumb it down? I don't know how many needed dumbed down.
19:05:00 But I even know, I'll see something in my daughter's like, that's AI.
19:05:04 That's that that picture is totally AI and I'm like. Or what's the other one?
19:05:10 It's not just AI. It's
19:05:11 Chat, chat, GPT.
19:05:13 Chat G is a considered an AI, agent. I am going to, I'm not gonna dumb it down, but I am going to address.
19:05:22 My particular bias is when it comes to AI. I don't know how many of you.
19:05:27 How do you, how do you?
19:05:29 How many of you looked at the movies that I put up?
19:05:33 Yeah.
19:05:33 The homework movies. The, If you haven't, you should take a look at the movies.
19:05:41 They're not terribly long. The,
19:05:47 What I use to create those, some people would consider AI. But I don't and I'll explain why.
19:05:55 But, anyway, I'm going to share my screen now so I can. Show off some stuff.
19:06:07 And the 1st thing I want to do is I actually have a. Slide show, which I know is not particularly Exciting, but.
19:06:21 Such is lie. And I'm going to post these so you don't have to sit here and read it.
19:06:28 And we're not going to start with that slide. We're going to start with this one.
19:06:37 The 1st I want thing I went to mention is there are many things you can do with computer. There are many different kinds of computers.
19:06:43 Yeah.
19:06:45 There are many different kinds of programming language, different kinds of programming styles, different kinds of programs.
19:06:50 And I mentioned that because a lot of what we do with people are calling AI is just programming. So I want to talk about what is programming 1st and then explain the difference.
19:07:03 This is the extended ASCII character set ASCII, American standard code for information interchange.
19:07:10 Is the standardized way in which computers. Store things internally and talk to one another. And as you can tell from the name, it's very North American centric.
19:07:22 It was developed during the 19, it was the standard was created during the 1950 s and pretty much every computer on the planet even ones that have never had anything to do with English use ASCII.
19:07:34 So when you see things that are written in Chinese characters, The computer itself is still using ASCII internally and it's using a much more extended character set to show the kind Chinese characters.
19:07:48 I'm going to show you, these, that's the extended character stat. It starts off, at 32, whereas 32. 32 is a space.
19:08:02 So starting from 32 to 255. Those are the characters in the ASCII.
19:08:06 Extended ask a character set this is a Fortran program which will print to the screen those characters from 32 to 2 55.
19:08:16 You don't have to understand it at all. Just that's what a Fortran program would look like to do that.
19:08:20 This is a cobalt program. To do the same thing print out those characters. Here's a p 0 1 program to do that.
19:08:30 PL one is not used anymore, but at 1 point IBM said this was going to be the programming language that everybody used.
19:08:38 That's why it's called PL one, programming language one. Here is an 80 80 assembler language program to print out those same characters.
19:08:47 Assembler is kind of like If you wanted to knit and you started off with the sheep and you actually, shared the sheep and carted the wool and made the strands and so on and so forth.
19:08:58 That's essentially what 88 is assembler is. You have to talk. It directly into computer speech, you can't use some English like language.
19:09:08 Here is a program written in snowball. You'll notice that this is the all the ones I'm going to show it.
19:09:14 Okay.
19:09:13 This is the shortest one. Snowball is my favorite language. When I was in grad school because it was designed to work with strings to a computer, anything that's not a number is a string.
19:09:26 And because I was working in the humanities, the strings were great. I was looking at this huge trial transcript and I wrote programs in in Snowball to do a analysis of it back in the days before people had come up with.
19:09:40 Tools for doing this kind of stuff. Here's a program written in basic to print those characters. Here's a program written in Ada, as a language done by the department, created by for the Department of Defense to create very rigid rules for things like weapons systems.
19:09:58 Here's a program done in Swift. Swift is the language used to make the Mac operating system make the.
19:10:08 Apps that you see on the app store, almost all of those were written in Swift.
19:10:14 Differences between AI and a traditional programming. And again, I'm going to post these slides. You don't have to read them.
19:10:21 Human programming relies on explicit sets of instructions. You, the programmer, write a set of instructions.
19:10:29 You try to anticipate how people will respond to those. To respond to the program and. Come to a desired result and the programs have a specific purpose.
19:10:43 Okay.
19:10:43 So when you write a program. The program does X does Y does Z. Microsoft Word, for example, it's a word processor.
19:10:53 It's never going to paint the side of your house. It can't trim your lawn.
19:10:57 Can't vacuum the floor. All it's going to do is be a word processor.
19:11:00 And even for the word processor requires a human to actually type. It's not going to do that on this own.
19:11:05 And if you have a game of chess. All this gonna do is play chess.
19:11:11 In machine language or artificial intelligence when it's done with machine language, you create programs that Allow the, program to teach itself.
19:11:24 So an artificial intelligence program has routines in it that allow it to ingest information and use that to change its own logic.
19:11:35 So instead of a person writing a program that does something very specific, The program itself is taught has taught itself how to do things.
19:11:47 That it may not have been originally designed to do. So that's a big difference between traditional programs and AI.
19:11:55 And it's also one reason why I think that a lot of things we call AI aren't really AI, but I'll explain that in a second.
19:12:03 Differences between AI and traditional programming, human programming relies on defined rules, you have a, you have a specific purpose with machine learning, it's designed to be flexible and to evolve over time.
19:12:20 The human programs are designed so that somebody can actually read the program and figure out what it's doing.
19:12:27 Machine learning models on the other hand tend to be very, very opaque. It's very difficult to figure out exactly how it came up with that result.
19:12:38 Scalability with human programming somebody has to actually do it somebody has to be fluent in not only the programming language but also in in communications some of the best programmers are actually writers and musicians and not computer scientists.
19:12:57 And if you want to have a big project, you need a lot of human programmers with machine learning.
19:13:04 The theory is that just by throwing additional computational resources, you can create. You can do more complicated things.
19:13:13 And then there's domain knowledge, the. A classic example is that if you have a very good chess program, it took programming by humans who were very good at chess in order to create that.
19:13:26 It's very difficult to have a chess program that's better than the programmers who created it.
19:13:32 Whereas with machine learning, because it's sucking in huge amounts of information that technically could be from multiple people, it might be better than anything that a, human could do.
19:13:45 And where am I?
19:13:50 I am here. There's also definitions. Sentient versus sapient. A sentient thing is something that's able to perceive or feel things around it.
19:14:03 Your cat if you rub it between the eyes is going to like that. Cause it can feel that and it responds to that.
19:14:11 If you have a deer that gets lost in your neighborhood, it's going to be frightened and because it's not next to its mother.
19:14:20 These are sentient creatures. They can are able to perceive things, they are able to feel things.
19:14:28 Artificial intelligence isn't at that level yet. And that's the lowest rank where it comes to.
19:14:36 Intelligence they really cannot perceive themselves and feel things sapien is even harder. Sapient things are considered wise there.
19:14:50 They're capable of problem solving. They're even capable of inventing problems to solve.
19:14:58 If you think about it, one of the most popular games ever invented was Solitaire, which is a sorting exercise.
19:15:06 And why do people do that? People like to play solitaire simply because our minds like to solve problems.
19:15:14 So that's something that. That, again, Artificial intelligence isn't there yet.
19:15:22 Artificial intelligence research requires computer science requires mathematics, requires cognitive science, cognitive science has to do with the part about being self-aware and making decisions and and how to learn.
19:15:36 Requires neuroscience, which is the study of how our brains function and get, insights on to how to program things.
19:15:49 But it also requires linguistics, the ability to communicate how communications theory works, philosophy to address moral questions and what is the nature of intelligence and things like that?
19:16:00 It requires electrical engineering, depending upon what you're doing might require robotics, which is applying. Intelligence to things that move.
19:16:10 Requires an understanding of physics because we're actually bumping up against the limits of physics with a lot of the stuff that we're doing now and requires the social sciences in terms of to give us insight into how these things are going to affect us culturally.
19:16:27 Dangers of artificial intelligence the big one is job displacement in the little video I put up the most common thing that a lot of companies want to do with artificial intelligence. They want to get rid of call centers.
19:16:44 They want to get rid of customer service. They want to. They went basically to have some machine tell you why you can't get a refund.
19:16:51 They're trying to cut costs. And so that's 1 possible problem with artificial intelligence. IS in terms of what the machine thinks is right and wrong.
19:17:03 A common tool used by a lot of loan companies and insurance companies and so on and so forth. Does demographic studies of places around the country and they say that if you own property or you have property in a particular area, you are a high risk and have to pay higher.
19:17:21 Premiums. Well, these tend to have economic biases so that if you're in a poor neighborhood you're a higher risk even though you might be perfectly capable you're going to pay more simply because of the biases in terms of the socioeconomics around you.
19:17:40 And in computer intelligence. Artificial intelligence. There's no way to overcome that bias because it's strictly data driven.
19:17:50 And if you say that that's a bad area, it'll say, okay, that's a bad area.
19:17:55 Privacy concerns.
19:17:58 Most of the artificial intelligence platforms that are out there right now now including things like Chat GPT, we're built using the database of millions of books.
19:18:11 That they did not ask the authors for permission and the books are a mixture of science books and mathematics books and philosophy books but also novels and one of the problems they run into is that they also looked at public databases.
19:18:28 So this data, but the most commonly used database has a whole bunch of information on, individuals up till about 2,019.
19:18:35 And so real problems with privacy there that should they have been scarfing up this data and should that be used to create the artificial intelligence.
19:18:46 You also have problems with things like autonomous weapons systems. If you have an autonomous weapon means the weapon can go out on its own and fire at somebody on its own doesn't need a human to say, that's a target.
19:18:59 It goes out and picks its own targets and fires. Probably not a terribly good idea. And there's also the fear that a lot of people have that the artificial intelligence may surpass our intelligence and they might decide that maybe we're a threat.
19:19:16 That's a common theme and a lot of science fiction movies. And even though We're not near that that that point it's still.
19:19:24 It's still something we should pay attention to. There are also security vulnerabilities. We have trouble.
19:19:31 Right now, securing systems that are designed to be secure. How difficult is it going to be to make something secure that we did not design?
19:19:40 That it was designed that the thing that we made is designed to learn and it could learn bad stuff. There's also social manipulation.
19:19:51 There was a There was a senator from. Pennsylvania who did something that one group did not like so they created a definition of his last name that was a vulgar act.
19:20:04 And now if you go search on a lot of search engines, you're going to see that the definition of his name is a vulgar act.
19:20:12 How did that happen? Thousands of people started writing that such and such equals such and such and so Google and Bing and everything learned that the definition of this word was this vulgar act.
19:20:25 And that's that kind of that kind of. Bias is very difficult for a computer to understand because a computer among other things doesn't really understand what it is to be a human doesn't really understand what it is to be a US Senator.
19:20:40 There are ethical, considerations on if these things really are intelligent, are you allowed to turn them off?
19:20:50 Yeah.
19:20:47 Or would that be murder? There are economic problems. Right now, most of the economic most of the AI systems are owned by people who are have at least hundreds of billions of millions of dollars if not billions.
19:21:05 So they right now control this type of research. And there's also the question of human autonomy.
19:21:12 Many of you might remember that when they 1st came out with electronic calculators, they were afraid that everybody would.
19:21:20 Would, stop. Learning how to do basic math. And there is. Some reason to think that that's something that we might be something we should pay attention to.
19:21:38 I'm going to show you a whole bunch of pictures that I created using an AI program called Firefly.
19:21:47 Firefly is owned by Adobe and in order to use it you have to have own some Adobe software and set up an account so and so forth.
19:21:56 I was fascinated when I saw some of the pictures of the total equillips of people. Looking at their phones instead of at the eclipse.
19:22:05 And so I said, okay, draw a picture of people looking at their phones during this eclipse.
19:22:10 And this is the 1st one that it came up with. What I did is I typed in the text and said, Eclipse of the Sun with a crowd looking at at their iPhones and it came up with this.
19:22:21 Well, most of the crowds not looking at their iPhone, both of them looking at the eclipse.
19:22:25 So that wasn't a good one. So I tried it again and I actually like this one slightly better but It's still not quite what I had in mind.
19:22:33 And this is based just upon a text description. This 1st one is an actual drawing. I wanted it to be a kind of a Art and it did pretty good in terms of the style there.
19:22:46 It's kind of art novelle. The second one I wanted more for So it came up with this.
19:22:52 Second drawing. The next thing I want to do, I asked for I said I wanted a frantic woman IT manager.
19:23:04 Frantic woman IT manager surrounded by many laptops and many raccoons eating computer tables.
19:23:12 So here's this frantic woman she doesn't look very frantic to me surrounded by laptops it's got that surrounded by raccoons but the Arab raccoons are not eating the cables and I That wasn't what I wanted.
19:23:27 This by the way is my joke that I tell people who are on the East Coast where they have high speed internet.
19:23:32 I say around here the the computer signals are actually taken back and forth by raccoon. So it's part of my joke about the raccoons.
19:23:41 So while I tried again and I got this one, she looks kind of harried. And there are raccoons, but she's eating the cables and not the raccoon.
19:23:50 So. Still didn't quite get what I wanted. But this is just a text prompt. What I typed into Firefly was Frantic woman IT manager surrounded by many laptops and many raccoons eating computer cables.
19:24:04 That's what I typed in to Firefly in order to get this photograph. This one worked out a little bit better.
19:24:11 I typed in, giant blue dragon looking at tiny bug and that's a giant blue dragon looking at a tiny bug.
19:24:20 And there's another bug like creature over here trying to run away. And I asked for a kind of a second one that's basically the same thing, but.
19:24:30 This one's kind of a close up of the giant. Dragon and the bug. So that's pretty good.
19:24:39 I, for other reasons that I'm not going to explain. Scones are Scottish and the Scots like T.
19:24:49 And I decided to combine the 2 and I said I wanted to Japanese samurai princess and armor having a cup of tea and a scone.
19:24:59 So here's the scone, here's the T, and that's sort of a Japanese princess, and it's, and it's done in this, a Japanese wooden block print style.
19:25:08 So that's when that one's not too bad.
19:25:15 There was an issue with. A new painting that was thought to be by Leonardo da Vinci and there was big to do about it and somebody asked for my thoughts on the subject.
19:25:27 And I decided what I wanted to send them was a for it was a picture of the Mona Lisa painting Leonardo da Vinci instead of Leonardo da Vinci painting Mona Lisa.
19:25:41 So I told Firefly One, Lisa as a painter created a painting of Leonardo da Vinci.
19:25:47 And that's what it came up with. Not quite sure understanding the mountains because there aren't mountains around there.
19:25:53 And I tried it again. Mona Lisa as a painter creating a painting of Leonardo da Vinci.
19:25:59 This one I Kind of like because it's a. It's not a bad, painting.
19:26:05 You can't see what she's doing. This one it got a little bit too creative and made Mimona Lisa look sort of like a Madonna, which is not quite what Mona Lisa was supposed to be.
19:26:16 Looking like. And I tried once more and this one's not bad at all because at least there's a picture of a man here.
19:26:23 And in this one, it shows that Mona Lisa is not necessarily a great painter, but It's getting to what I want to which was Mona Lisa painting Leonardo da Vinci.
19:26:33 And another try gave me this one. Which is a lovely, lovely painting, but. It doesn't really seem to have anything to do with Leonardo da Vinci, but it is a It is a nice painting.
19:26:49 My granddaughter lives in England and she was drawing a map. She said it was a map. And so I thought, okay, I want a child drawing a map of London and it gave me this.
19:27:00 And here's a child and I guess that's sort of like London and there's a of coffee, which is kind of weird because really probably not this child.
19:27:09 Favorite drink, but that's not bad. And. Then we were talking. My my background is Japanese history which means that it's also Asian history and somebody was talking about, they won a good Chinese restaurant that had fortune cookies and I said, fortunate cookies are not Chinese.
19:27:33 And I, and he said, what are they? And my response was, well, they were actually invented in San Francisco by a Japanese man.
19:27:39 But he wanted to know where's what's my source so I said here the ancient Chinese philosopher Confucius contemplating a fortune cookie.
19:27:50 Well, Fortune cookies were actually developed in the 20th century in San Francisco. Confucius knew nothing about it.
19:28:00 And this guy looks a little bit too contemporary to be Confucius and and I'm not quite sure.
19:28:03 Why a Chinese philosopher would be in front of, Mount Fuji.
19:28:09 Then I asked, I said, I had been reading the story in the, Japan Times, Japan has only one time zone.
19:28:20 The entire country is one time zone. So it's really Cool, cause you can be all over the country and listen to the same TV programs and the same radio programs and you never have to reset your clock.
19:28:31 It's it's it's great. But there was an argument about maybe they should have some a time zone for Hokkaido, which is the farthest to the east and the farthest north, it should be different from Okinawa, which is like, 1,800 miles away.
19:28:48 So I said I wanted 2 Japanese politicians arguing about daylight savings time outside of Japan's imperial palace.
19:28:56 And it gave me this. That doesn't look like Japan's imperial palace, but it's got a kind of a Japanese feel to it.
19:29:04 So that's not too bad. And then I just said that I wanted to have a photograph type and so it gives me a more photo realistic one.
19:29:10 These 2 guys are kind of weird. And there is a Japanese flag and there is a palace, but that particular palace is actually in Osaka, but you know.
19:29:22 Okay, that's it was trying And then I said I wanted a warrior princess and armor having a cup of tea and a stone.
19:29:32 So this is a. Different warrior currencies. She's not a Japanese princess, she's just a warrior princess having a cup of tea in Scone.
19:29:39 That's not bad. And this is another warrior princess having a cup of tea in the scone.
19:29:44 That's not bad.
19:29:46 We were talking about fairy, I was talking about furious with somebody on the East Coast and I said, well, we have ferries here in Washington State and they say, oh, but the fairies are kind of boring. Nothing ever happens.
19:29:57 Also, no, I said we also have water dragons and they said, what's a water dragon?
19:30:02 So I sent them this picture, which is a Why Washington State Ferry. Boat being chased by Water Dragon.
19:30:10 Okay.
19:30:13 Can't really argue with that. And here I said that a woman. Is fighting evil spirits, pouring out of a computer.
19:30:24 Looks to me more like electrical sparks than, an evil spirit, but, it's not bad.
19:30:29 I can tell by the keyboard, this is more like a Dell than a Mac, but you know, details.
19:30:34 And finally, I wanted a wood block print of London as painted by Hokusai. I'm kind of obsessed with Oak Hokusai.
19:30:43 This is kind of a good poker sized wood block print. It sort of looks like London except that there are no volcanoes in London.
19:30:53 Unless they've added one that I'm unaware of. But this is an example of what they call a what is being, promoted as AI.
19:31:03 And it's being promoted as AI because it uses machine learning to learn how art is created. And then it knows how to mimic various styles.
19:31:13 And I can't really show it to you because if I did it, would definitely kill the Zoom connection.
19:31:20 But I type in a text string and then I can specify, do I want it black and white to color?
19:31:24 Do I want it photorealistic? Do I want it to be? A particular style like this is a woodblock painting style, but it also has watercolor and oil, painting, different kinds of styles.
19:31:37 Is this really a I? I would say that this is machine learning because it's learned a lot about art, but it's not really artificial intelligence because it's designed to do a specific thing.
19:31:51 It's designed to take a string of descriptive string of text and create an image from that.
19:31:58 It's not really.
19:32:01 You might tell it in expert system. We created a system that's has a pretty good knowledge of art, except that sometimes it does really weird things like if you look at these 2 guys, they're They're physically distorted and if we come to One I had earlier of the Eclipse.
19:32:23 This woman's nose in particular. Is, it's got issues. So It's not it's not perfect, but as an expert system to.
19:32:37 Create artwork. For people who really aren't artists, it's not, it's not a bad setup.
19:32:44 Will it put graphic artists out of business? No. This is. It's not gonna put a graphic artist out of business.
19:32:54 It's not gonna put a photographer out of business, but it is a good demonstration of what they are calling AI, but I would call this an expert system rather than AI.
19:33:06 It's It's not, sentient and it's it's It's not there.
19:33:18 I went to show you another example.
19:33:34 And this shouldn't be too. Difficult for me to deal with. Somebody give me a subject.
19:33:44 Any else subject can be a person's name or color or autumn or something.
19:33:50 Milton's Paradise Lost.
19:33:52 I'm Milton's paradise. Okay.
19:33:53 Okay.
19:33:58 Right a news story. About the election in this. Dial. Of Milton's.
19:34:14 Paradise. That's the That was my prompt and what it's doing is writing this.
19:34:24 Oh my god.
19:34:24 Much longer poem than I was expecting. And let's see if I can blow it up.
19:35:01 No.
19:34:57 That's true. Yes, this is chat GPT. Is that artificial intelligence?
19:35:12 Well, if it isn't, what is it?
19:35:12 I will tell you something. It's it's better at writing blank verse than I am. I, I will give it credit for that, but this is really not artificial intelligence.
19:35:25 This is a tool. That's designed to parse language and feed it back to you. An example of the misuses of chat GBT.
19:35:35 Hey, certain. Famous lawyer until he got debarred. Submitted a brief and one of the lawsuits against him And he did it in chat GPT and chat, GPT made up.
19:35:52 Legal precedents and cited them and he turned it in. Not knowing that they were made up so they were completely imaginary.
19:36:00 The problem with the good news is that chat GPT can do this, which I think is impressive.
19:36:06 The bad thing is that chat D GPT does not know the difference between reality and fiction. And so among other things, they can read a whole bunch of Perry Mason novels and a whole bunch of other things.
19:36:20 Without the permission of the authors, ingested just millions of books. Including novels and in these novels they talk about cases.
19:36:28 So chat GPT when it's sitting there and things, okay, how does a legal brief work?
19:36:33 It knows the style of a legal brief and it has precedence, but it doesn't know that a precedent a case that Perry Mason is citing.
19:36:42 Is make believe. So this. Politician who is also a lawyer. One of his appeals was he submitted a brief that was done by Czech GPT.
19:36:54 A trademark case done in New Jersey. Oh, somebody use chat GPT to for his legal brief and it got thrown out because again, it was made up.
19:37:05 Chat GPT is an interesting toy. But it doesn't really know the difference between what's real and what's fake.
19:37:17 There is a, I mentioned it in a little clip that I had. There is a.
19:37:24 Novel out and I think the title is Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer. And it's a novel because Lincoln did not go out and slave vampires.
19:37:34 But it's the supposition of the, I haven't read the novel, but, the, the, the, the, the, the novel is that the Confederates were using vampires to try and, overtake the union during the Civil War.
19:37:49 And so, Abe Lincoln turned out to be a really good vampire. And that's the plot of the novel.
19:37:54 That is not real, but if you fed that to chat GPT, it would give it the same weight as a
19:38:04 As the Kerns biography of Abraham Lincoln because as far as chat GPD knows.
19:38:10 It's says this is about Lincoln and Lincoln did that's true. It doesn't have the ability to tell the difference between fact and fiction.
19:38:20 But in terms of just, you know, a short little thing done in the Style of Paradise Lost, fact and fiction.
19:38:30 But in terms of just, you know, a short little thing done in the style of Par
19:38:30 Well, it's not, it isn't. It's not blank bursts.
19:38:34 Well, I don't exactly know what to call it, but it's done in the style of Paradise Law.
19:38:40 So.
19:38:40 It's rhyming couplets as more like pope.
19:38:44 Okay, I'll go with that.
19:38:48 Anyway, anything, give me, give me another prompt that I can try out. One of the nice things about chat GPT is because it's all tech space doesn't use up that much.
19:38:58 Bandwidth so I can sit here and play with it.
19:39:09 Nothing? Okay, well I'm gonna ask it something.
19:39:10 Okay.
19:39:14 Make me a recipe. For very Chuck, Chuck, go that. Chip.
19:39:26 Okay, That's why prompt.
19:39:33 Oh my gosh.
19:39:39 Okay, now this actually looks like a fairly decent One cap. 2 sticks, unsalted butter, softened one cup, graduated sugar, one cup.
19:39:50 One packet brown sugar, 2 large eggs, 2 teaspoons, pure, vanilla extract, 2 cups all purpose flower, one cup, unsweetened cocoa powder, one teaspoon baking soda, one a half teaspoon salt, 2 cups, semi suite, chocolate chips, additional semi suite chocolate chips for topping optional.
19:40:08 Pre eat the oven to 350 degrees. Now this will cause this grief right here. I try making I'm not a cook.
19:40:16 I tried making something in our oven set at 350 and it didn't work at all.
19:40:21 And then Kathleen told me that our Stove is seriously out of calibration and it needs to be 75 degrees warmer in order to work so Oh well, this would not have worked for me, but it looks to my.
19:40:34 I is a pretty good. Chocolate chip cookie recipe.
19:40:41 And unlike Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer, this doesn't seem to have any fictional elements.
19:40:52 Anybody else have an idea for that I can try?
19:40:56 What is the best way to get rid of moles in my yard?
19:41:14 What is the best way to get rid of moles in my yard? It says starts off.
19:41:20 I have to show this to you.
19:41:23 Because the opening. Sentence cracks me up.
19:41:27 Yeah.
19:41:30 The Elussi Moles, those subterranean wanderers whose presence can wreak havoc upon the verdant tapestry of your yard.
19:41:38 Fear not, for there are strategies to bid farewell to these burrowing bandits. I think it's still stuck on.
19:41:44 Melton but
19:41:45 Yeah.
19:41:46 Yeah.
19:41:48 Physical barriers, repellents, traps, flooding, natural predators, grub control.
19:41:53 Maintain a tardy yard professional assistance. I will tell you something that I am fond of. Moles don't like vibrations.
19:42:03 And if you get these, you can go to almost any garden shop around here and get these metal.
19:42:09 Pinwheels that the wind blows. Stick those and moles don't like those at all.
19:42:16 You, I 1st noticed this when I was a child, we had, 1st several years of my life were on a farm that among other things did not have indoor plumbing.
19:42:29 And had dirt floors inside. We had a windmill and there were no more moles within 100 5,200 feet of the windmill because it was constantly creating vibrations.
19:42:41 Oh, this is a full size windmill that also pumped water, but it just these PIN whales, metal PIN whales that you can buy.
19:42:49 We have wind constantly around here and the vibrations, the moles don't like it.
19:42:52 So it may not help your entire yard, but it might at least. Discourage them and it doesn't put any poisons around or anything like that so I recommend.
19:43:06 Yes.
19:43:05 Lawrence, when you're typing this in, how is this different than just asking Google a question?
19:43:12 If you ask Google a question, it'll send you to a page that has things like that. But for example, I could ask for this, my chocolate chip cookie, or if I asked for it in Latin, let's see if it'll do that right a
19:43:42 Told it to write a chocolate chip cookie recipe in Latin. And. I have no idea what it says so I'm going to go with the fact that it must be in Latin.
19:44:00 Yeah.
19:43:56 I'll ask my resident Latin, expert, Kath. Kathleen is this Latin?
19:44:04 Looks like it.
19:44:10 Not really.
19:44:13 She's, somewhat skeptical. Although it did translate Fahrenheit into centigrade.
19:44:19 So, you know, that's a step in the right direction.
19:44:27 Okay.
19:44:31 It, it's different from Google in as much as it tries to solve problems and it will create things that did not exist.
19:44:37 For example, the political process. That didn't exist. I asked it to create something and it created that.
19:44:48 It's a different process than going and finding it. I actually posted on the, on the, the, straight max site.
19:44:59 A troubleshooting process that it came up with. That it it wrote as if it was I'm an evil scribe and told you.
19:45:13 How to troubleshoot your Windows machine. And chat that because I couldn't. I actually didn't I did not try to go look for one thing like that but what chat GPT does is it can create things but it's strictly a text-based is it can create things but it's strictly a text-based engine.
19:45:32 You give it, you give it a task and if it does it'll go out there and create it.
19:45:36 A couple things that it is limited by is the database that it uses for the language. There was 3 million books and such that it's based upon it kind of ends around 2,018 2,019.
19:45:50 So it's not aware of anything that happened since then. Originally it would do things like come up with slanders of current politicians and so on.
19:46:01 So, and it's they've stopped doing that. So if you try and And, same thing with, Adobe's Firefly.
19:46:08 If you ask it to have, a a photograph of Donald Trump writing a unicorn, it will say that that it'll say it can't do that.
19:46:19 If you say. I want a picture of a clown writing a Yukon. It would do that.
19:46:25 But if you Try and give up. A politicians name or some current person it say it can't do that.
19:46:33 Those rules didn't exist when they 1st came out. And you probably read in the paper about.
19:46:43 People using different search, different search and different AI projects to to put. Teenage girls faces on.
19:46:54 The, port actresses. Bodies and the controls aren't Not too many of the of these search engines have developed controls to prevent abuse yet.
19:47:13 That's 1 of the dangers of these tools. But none of these right now are really artificial intelligence.
19:47:19 They're machine assisted tools and they can create things that did not exist before. Such as those images that I, was showing you earlier.
19:47:31 But it's not really intelligence. Things to be aware of. A lot of companies are trying to work on putting, artificial intelligence into things like chatbots.
19:47:45 So you have a blender and the blender is not working and you you go to West Bend or whoever made it and you try and get them to, you know, fix your blender and you end up in this conversation with something you think you're talking with human being and exactly a chat bot.
19:48:01 And the chat bot is probably programmed in such a way that it's going to reject. Anything that you want that cost them company money.
19:48:10 You should be aware that things like this are actually happening. And. It's the uses that people put this technology to is not necessarily good.
19:48:22 But as a tool for writing chocolate chip cookie recipes in Latin It's great.
19:48:33 I don't know if it could do that in Greek.
19:48:49 Yes, it's writing something I assume is in Greek because I can't read any of it.
19:48:55 Yeah.
19:48:58 If you asked it to show you the Correct HTML and and cast digging style sheet language for to frame a put a picture or photograph.
19:49:11 With a drop shadow. And a border, would it do that?
19:49:17 Yeah, well. Let me finish. Okay, It's I think it's done with the great care.
19:49:24 I'll try something simpler.
19:49:45 Okay, I told it to write a basic language program to calculate the 1st 50 prime numbers. Why am I doing this?
19:49:53 It's because why not? It's gives it something specific to do.
19:50:01 And that actually would work. It just wrote a program to calculate the 1st 50. Prime numbers.
19:50:09 I'm familiar enough with basic that I know that that would work. So yes, it can do things like that.
19:50:15 This is one reason why people are afraid that people are going to use AI. To replace programmers.
19:50:22 One of the problems that you have is that people are really good at finding edge cases, which as an example is an edge case is people using.
19:50:30 AI to generate port. That's an edge case. The computers don't know that those are edge cases.
19:50:39 So if somebody comes up with a way to phrase that, the computer will probably do it. Whereas a human being could, they, it's called trapping, error trapping.
19:50:47 You put in conditions that it must meet in order before it does something. And when you're a programmer, you do that all the time.
19:50:54 I'll give you an example. When you type in a search query, and you press enter.
19:51:05 Google looks it up and if finds a page that matches that, Google sends your browser to that page, but on the receiving end the the server also gets to log what the search party was.
19:51:19 Well, when I was working for NOAA, a very common question we, I would get.
19:51:24 The website would get was I work for National Ocean Service. So it was questions about the ocean. How much sperm does a sperm whale hold?
19:51:35 If I looked at these queries, which we got a lot of, you could tell that they were coming from junior high and high school kids and and people probably drunk in bars and so on and so forth.
19:51:47 So I created a query string that looked for sperm whale and did not contain the word weight.
19:51:57 Because if somebody wanted to know how much a sperm whale weighed, I have an answer for that.
19:52:01 But if they ask how much sperm was in a sperm whale, I sent them to a page that said, and this is almost a direct quote.
19:52:09 As much as you will find in the average American high school.
19:52:14 Now that actually says nothing at all because most people don't know what an average American high school is.
19:52:22 They it's implied that maybe I'm talking about the the. Kids in high school, but it doesn't actually say anything.
19:52:29 And I did that to stop people from asking questions like this. We just give them that page all the time.
19:52:36 And that's a way in which I could error trap for people trying to do things that I really didn't want them to do.
19:52:44 AI program has no such constraints. You tell them to solve a problem. It will take what it knows and combine it to solve a problem.
19:52:53 Many of you have probably seen YouTube videos of cats writing around on a Roomba. And there are also you can get little robots now, a Roomba vacuums up your floor, but they're also robots that trim hedges.
19:53:21 Yeah.
19:53:06 Well, if you told an AI program Make the cat stop. The robot might think that the the program might think, okay, I'm going to get the cat on top of the Room but gonna go outside and then I'm gonna use the hedge tremor to silence the cat.
19:53:27 To the AI program. It has solved the problem. To you, that's pretty horrific, but it took 2 data sets on how to solve problems.
19:53:36 Mashed them together and came up with an unacceptable solution. Humans can guard against this in the way we program.
19:53:44 We don't know that AI has that ability.
19:53:49 I probably didn't answer your question, but. You can get it to to write programs.
19:54:17 I told it to write a CSS segment for displaying a picture with the drop shadow and it gave me a block of code.
19:54:29 Which looks like it would that actually work?
19:54:37 And it list down below it the explanation of how the. Code work. So yes, it will do it's pretty good at writing code.
19:54:46 Sometimes the code I've noticed is very generic. I and Hmm, it does make any miss.
19:54:56 I can criticize the code, but I'm in human. So that's my, prerogative.
19:55:03 Anything else you want to try and torment it with?
19:55:07 Yeah.
19:55:06 Yeah.
19:55:14 Yes.
19:55:12 Lawrence? I see. Carol. And Marsha each.
19:55:22 Oh.
19:55:20 Have their hands up. And I'm unable, I'm unable to find. Anything that will let me put my hand up today.
19:55:29 But it looks like they have questions. But they're both.
19:55:36 Yes. Marshall, you're on mute.
19:55:41 Do you have a question?
19:55:50 Marsha, do you have a question?
19:55:56 Hmm. Anybody else have a question?
19:55:59 No.
19:56:00 Yes, Chris, go ahead.
19:55:59 I have a story. I have a story. I'm, I'm very interested to hear the term job displacement.
19:56:09 And also expert systems. Because in 1985 I and for other librarians gathered to form.
19:56:21 The artificial intelligence slash expert systems interest group. Of what was then. The Information Technology Division.
19:56:34 The American Library Association. And artificial intelligence didn't really.
19:56:44 F too much it was the expert systems that had lots of librarians scared they were going to be put out of jobs.
19:56:51 So 3 years in a row. We filled a hotel ballroom, the 1st one in Chicago, I think it was in 1986.
19:57:03 At the annual convention. We had standing room only. They were well over 300 people. To hear a panel.
19:57:14 Yeah.
19:57:11 And we called it Deus X Makinov. And then being struck with. Total.
19:57:21 Imagination paralysis. The second year we called it Dais X Machina, Roman numeral 2.
19:57:30 And then the 3rd year, Roman numeral 3. And after that, we either ran out of people who were willing to be on a 5 person panel talking about expert systems and AI.
19:57:43 Or interest dropped off or the bureaucracy of the institution decided we'd had our run.
19:57:51 Or we ran out of. People to form the interest group. There. In any case, that was 1985 and that's almost 40 years ago.
19:58:03 Yes, the I happen to I happen to be interested in this because I put myself through grad school working for Washington State University Library and I was one of the programmers for the Washington State Library Network, which was the first.st
19:58:22 Yeah. Yeah.
19:58:19 Statewide library network. In the country. And what I did was the catalog, I worked on the cataloging part.
19:58:28 And one of the things that, that you have problems with with with expert systems or with artificial intelligence is humans and how we see things.
19:58:41 For example, There are rules for how you catalog things, the most, famous of which are the ones we developed in the United States called the Anglo-american cataloging rules.
19:58:53 Right.
19:58:53 And they still exist and they're still in use but pretty much everybody else copied them. It's, yeah, I thought it was really interesting.
19:59:01 I was in the National Library of Finland. Oh, 5 or 6 years ago. And they use the Library of Congress.
19:59:10 Classification system in their national library. But one of the things that you do is that in order to sort things properly in different languages, you have to have special rules.
19:59:24 For example, Under the Anglo-american cataloging rules, the any Scottish name that ends in MC or MAC is alphabetized as if it's spelled MAC in full.
19:59:37 So you'll have McDonald and Macaroon will be listed together, whether it's spelled with MC or MAC.
19:59:44 That's something that you have to teach the computer. That we do things this way because otherwise all the MCs are going to be, separated quite a ways from the ones that are MAC.
19:59:56 So that's 1.
19:59:56 Yeah, but that's a, but that's a sorting function.
19:59:59 That's a sorting function, but it's also something where a human has to intervene and tell the machine that just because the machine can do it one way that's not the way we want it.
20:00:10 I had a fellow Asian historian his last name was Tenbrook and I can't remember what the nationality is but 10 Brook is spelled T and BR or okay so brook seems fine but in the front there's 10 and 10 is in lower case so 10 brook That doesn't follow the way that computers do things when they have names they want to capitalize it and the computers would capitalize the T
20:00:37 in tenbra and it really irritated him so I had to create a special rule for whatever. I don't remember that what nationality uses that prefix.
20:00:47 And we did the same thing for Van and Von and so on and so forth. These are all things that require human intervention to do them correctly.
20:00:54 And AI systems have real trouble doing things like this because to the AI system, that American standard code for information exchange.
20:01:04 A lowercase a is sorted after an upper case A all the time. Doesn't make any exceptions.
20:01:11 So to teach it to sort of the way we want. Takes human intervention and if you tell it to just go and Sort books, you're going to not necessarily have what you want.
20:01:22 You can do that just with Apple, books. In Apple's books. It really irritates me that sometimes Isaac Asimov is under I instead of under A.
20:01:33 And I have no real control over it because. Whoever made the book that's the metadata they used and so that's why we're it sorts it there are some There are some real fears that there will be job displacement with artificial intelligence, but it's also going to create a whole new category of people who will set about fixing AI systems to do what we really want them to do rather than what
20:02:03 they want to do on their own.
20:02:10 Kathleen was talking about what the, what about the use of AI for slander.
20:02:15 This is something that we've actually seen some examples of this year where people are using, they want to say something nasty about somebody else and they can't think of anything on their own.
20:02:22 So they, they pose a hypothetical to one of these expert systems that comes back with suggestions on things that can be done.
20:02:31 And I don't really consider that. Problem in and of itself because it's it's it's still slander by a human being.
20:02:42 What I do worry about though is that you you end up doing things like that center from Pennsylvania where associating his name with a vulgarity.
20:02:52 Becomes the norms of when you search for his name, that's 1 of the things you'll find is the And that's.
20:02:59 That is definitely a problem. Any other questions?
20:03:05 What if you ask chat GP something like this? What did Jesus mean in the Bible when he said, I am the way, the truth of the life?
20:03:15 Yeah.
20:03:14 Okay. I'm not sure my pastor will go along with this.
20:03:21 Yeah.
20:03:36 It's light light not LIFE
20:03:42 I'm sorry?
20:03:44 And it should be LIFE, not white.
20:03:48 And that manner.
20:03:47 Oh, I'm sorry. Paul, you had a question?
20:03:56 Yes.
20:03:53 Oh yeah, you gave us some homework to do. And, I dutifully watched it and and I noticed in your the Japanese Soviet Well, you had 12 little printers.
20:04:11 Now did you create that from AI or one of your apps or? Cause and I was wondering what was the purpose of the of the exercise.
20:04:23 Okay.
20:04:22 Because I notice that Who are the creatures? Weren't quite what they said they were.
20:04:32 Pardon?
20:04:29 Yes, well actually 3 of them were. 3 of them weren't. The unicorn is not really a horse.
20:04:37 Right.
20:04:37 The is not really a snake and aquala bear is not really a sheath but
20:04:42 Right, I didn't I didn't catch the snake one. Yeah.
20:04:45 The, They originally started as the I was having a discussion with someone about he was born in the year the snake and he wanted a snake, oji so that when you talk to me I'd be talking to snake he's Japanese and he was born in the earth.
20:05:01 Kathleen? Are you? Yeah, Kathleen was born in the US Snake as well.
20:05:06 I was born in the year of the Dragon. And our daughter was born in the year of the Ox.
20:05:10 But anyway. Memoji, we're created, emoji, we're originally created by a Japanese artist.
20:05:17 And they started using them on telephones for instant messaging in Japan. And gradually they became this huge thing so that now I think the iPhone can create something like 300 different emojis.
20:05:29 With, skin, different skin tones and it's got, all the flags of all the countries in the world and all kinds of stuff.
20:05:39 But memoji, which are these animated ones I created on my phone And what I did is I went into my phone.
20:05:49 And I said to send myself a message. And then I selected the option for a emoji.
20:05:55 And I picked those various animals and then I spoke them. And I did this. I made that video originally for my friend who was complaining about the fact that there was no a snake.
20:06:08 But it was also an example that I wanted to show you because I wanted to ask you the question.
20:06:15 Did I do that with artificial intelligence?
20:06:21 How many of you actually looked at the video?
20:06:25 Did I do it with artificial intelligence is the question.
20:06:29 No.
20:06:29 No.
20:06:31 Why not?
20:06:35 It was probably canned. I mean.
20:06:39 Well, the,
20:06:44 Let's go here, Great to send myself something. I'm going to pick, emoji.
20:06:54 And I gotta pick this one. Okay. This is Lawrence talking as if he's a tiger.
20:07:04 This is Lawrence talking as if he's a tiger. Okay, now I'm going to hold this up to my
20:07:15 To the camera and there is me. And the tiger, Momoji. And if I click it.
20:07:21 Yeah.
20:07:23 If I, well. Trust my word if I click on it, it will. This is Lawrence talking as if he's a tiger.
20:07:31 I did that with my iPhone.
20:07:40 I did that just on my phone. I wrote out a script because I wanted to know what I was going to say because among other things I sometimes would get ahead of myself and say a word that I wasn't in tending to but wrote out a script.
20:07:52 Picked out the emojis that I wanted for the zodiac and then had them say their name, say what they were in Japanese.
20:08:03 Is that artificial intelligence? I'd say no because Apple designed it to do that. Maybe not exactly what I was doing, but the Apple designed the iPhone to do that.
20:08:13 However, it takes a huge amount of machine learning to do this. The iPhone has a whole bunch of neural, what's called neural processing units, which are specialized CPUs that that are used to, I gotta turn offs.
20:08:31 Sharing so I can actually see. It has a whole bunch of neural processors on the iPhone that are designed to deal with things that are not.
20:08:41 That you can't add, subtract, multiply, divide such as pictures. And when, when you log into your phone, if you have a phone that's got, facial recognition, there's this bar up at the top.
20:08:56 That you can't really see cause I got a dark background but There's a bar up at the top that's a black bar.
20:09:04 That has thousands of little infrared emitters in there that when you use facial recognition, it bounces infrared light off your face and it can tell, it can tell, for example, my nose as part is closer to the phone than my cheekbones are.
20:09:20 Because and it can make a 3D map of your face. And when you do facial recognition, you have to move the phone around and move your head around so that it can get a picture of your phone.
20:09:29 And it concentrates particularly on the eyes. That's why they came up with a special feature. If you have facial recognition, you can put a mask on it and the facial recognition still works because it concentrates particularly the area around the eyes.
20:09:42 Apple designed that for face ID. Some programmers at Apple were playing around with and they say, if we text your map, you know, a clown face on it, we can talk as if we're a clown.
20:09:57 And instead of having a clown, which has, it can scare people. They used animals and they use cute little cartoon animals.
20:10:05 They didn't use scary little animals and you can make, And so that's what I used for the 2 videos that I did.
20:10:12 Is it artificial intelligence? No, does it use machine learning? Absolutely. Lots and lots and lots of machine learning.
20:10:20 The neural processing units on this iPhone can process billions of things a second. Not millions or thousands, but billions of things a second.
20:10:32 And when it's dealing with something that You cannot add, subtract, multiply, divide, which is a picture.
20:10:38 Or song or things like that. It does pattern matching to match the shape of my face to put that tiger face over the top so it knows where my lips are and makes my lips move.
20:10:49 Okay.
20:10:52 And if I blink the eyes blink and depending upon what I do, sometimes you can even make the little ears slicker with some of the, All of that's done with a staggering amount of machine learning.
20:11:04 That people think is artificial intelligence, but it's not really. It's not It's not the machine picking out a problem and figuring a way to solve it.
20:11:14 It's the machine doing what it was designed to do, but in a general way. It went from the general thing was facial recognition.
20:11:22 The more specific thing that I was doing, I was using it to be basically a puppet. And I was using a A staggering amount of technology to do that.
20:11:33 Yes.
20:11:32 Lawrence. Someone said that if I, that it's possible to use AI in writing a resume.
20:11:41 Yes.
20:11:42 If I was to do that, how how do I go about doing it or what program or? Yeah, I'm lost.
20:11:52 The what do you, what you, the easy thing to do and you could just do this on Google, you could go into Google and say, give me a form for writing.
20:12:05 And it'll give you a form. But with chat GPT, you would say something like, I have, 6 years experience at underwater demolitions and I know how to cook pasta and I've climbed Mount Everest.
20:12:25 And I have a cat named Fred. Please write a resume to be a bellhop at this hotel using this is my experience.
20:12:34 It'll come up with a resume. Probably a pretty terrible resume, but at least you'll see the outline of what that kind of resume would be.
20:12:41 What order it puts things in, how it emphasizes things. That's, the true value of that chat GPT can have.
20:12:53 If you've never done a resume, it'll give you a nice form to follow and you've never done a resume, it'll give you a nice form to follow and you change the content too.
20:12:57 To fit you. And that's the people who've done useful things with chat GPT.
20:13:03 That's, the starting point where they are trying to do something different and they want to know what what the proper form for that is.
20:13:10 I know somebody who made a will that way. Give me the outline of a will that's valid in the state of Washington and they gave them, the outline of a will.
20:13:21 So you just go through the change the specifics.
20:13:21 So. In a resume the way I've seen it when. Years ago. So it's been over 20 years since I've ever written a resume.
20:13:33 Do, how do you add all that fluff? People make them so fluffy and they're so full.
20:13:39 I hate to say it, it's so full of words that doesn't necessarily Like just not the nitty gritty's.
20:13:47 The you will see that A lot of people right now, they use professional programs to sit and evaluate resumes.
20:13:56 And the professional programs are basically the expert systems that one that Chris was, saying that would replace librarians that there's no chance of that happening, but.
20:14:07 These things, these resumes look for things that can be classified as skills. So for example, if you know how to type, if you know how to speak Spanish, if you know how to do whatever.
20:14:21 You list those skills and these programs that they're looking for somebody who can speak Spanish knows how to use a telephone and can type 50 words a minute if that meets their criteria you'll pop out.
20:14:33 But they're looking for skills more than fluff. You say I'm really interested in making the world better and bringing peace to mankind.
20:14:42 That sentence does not mention any kind of skill, does not say anything about any qualifications. That's that's an aspiration, but it's not a qualification.
20:14:54 So you went to you want to emphasize skills. And. And chat GPT can't read resume for you, but it can show you the format for resume and the order in which you put things.
20:15:08 And that's actually fairly standardized.
20:15:12 I have.
20:15:12 Okay.
20:15:15 I've written a lot of curriculum vetas. I haven't really written that many. Resumes.
20:15:23 But again, the resumes were focused upon skills. And I knew I was going to get the job anyway, they just wanted to resume for their file.
20:15:29 So.
20:15:32 But focus on skills and abilities and not. Not aspirations and They really could care less about your pet frog and things like that.
20:15:43 They do kind of like, dehumanize things. If you like course back writing, That's where the engineering or you are an amateur astronomer.
20:15:54 That's the kind of thing that. That humanizes things and sometimes sets you apart from somebody else but they're really looking for skills and today larger companies about 80 to 90% of them use, resume programs they just feed the resumes in electronically and it spits out a list of things that, you know, well, take a look these and ignore the rest.
20:16:17 I hate to say it, but that's the way it is.
20:16:23 Thank you.
20:16:26 Other questions?
20:16:31 Did anywhere, everyone sign in?
20:16:33 Oh, no. How do I do that?
20:16:35 Yeah. Okay.
20:16:36 Okay. I shall paste the link into the chat again.
20:16:43 Hmm.
20:16:44 So if you could sign and that'd be nice. And. 2 things.
20:16:50 One is. I think about what you would like to have in an in person session. I have ideas on myself my own.
20:16:56 And the second thing is what do you want to do next month?
20:17:02 Okay, while everybody's thinking of those questions, I'm interested in the photography book that you talked about in your earlier email.
20:17:12 So how do I go about? Getting one.
20:17:19 Yeah.
20:17:16 The, take control photography book on with iPhone photography. If you just go to that link, you'll go to a website.
20:17:24 And you pay the money and it downloads it to your computer, you double click on it and then opens up in ibooks.
20:17:32 And once it's in your ibooks library, you can look at it on your phone as well as on your.
20:17:38 Desktop machine or tablet or however you went to look at it.
20:17:43 So, and payment is some sort of a credit card.
20:17:46 Credit card yes.
20:17:49 And I got an Apple credit card. Thank you very much. For suggesting that.
20:17:54 I'm very fond of my Apple credit card. If you give somebody an Apple credit card, it has your name on it.
20:18:00 There's no number. There's nothing else on the card. So there's nothing that anyone can steal.
20:18:07 It does them no good at all. But it's it's and also they made a titanium so you can use it as a very small bulletproof vest.
20:18:17 Oh
20:18:17 Yeah.
20:18:23 Suggestions for next month.
20:18:27 Are we meeting in person or zooming?
20:18:32 Kathleen and I have to do a few things that might interrupt our schedule. So I'm kind of.
20:18:39 Hesitant to do it in person when until we have a very specific plan. so that probably is not gonna be something we do in May, but might be something we do in June.
20:18:57 So next month was probably gonna be via zoom.
20:19:02 Okay.
20:19:04 You mentioned before showing us about how to create a web page. Hello. Maybe you could explain the advantages of doing it yourself from scratch versus
20:19:18 Contracting with software like WordPress.
20:19:22 Well, WordPress is how our site is set up. WordPress is the software that I use to do it.
20:19:29 If you wanted a WordPress site, you either make one yourself or you contract somebody to use WordPress to make it for you.
20:19:35 But, I've probably made. At this point, I probably made 7, 800 websites and over the past.
20:19:46 Oh, 6, 8 years. I probably made. 50 of those in WordPress. The ones I made before were done by hand, where I actually wrote the code.
20:19:57 And. I made lots and lots and lots of those because I was being paid to do that.
20:20:04 But now that I'm not being paid to do that, I tend to use WordPress.
20:20:08 So this word plus does it have like templates and you just You know, with Laura MIPS, some text that you replace and So on our
20:20:16 Yeah, well WordPress calls them themes, but yes, they have themes for bookshop themes for a photography studio themes for all kinds of things.
20:20:26 And there are free themes and they are paid themes. What I would do if I did a presentation nights I just start from scratch going to WordPress pick a theme and start showing you how you add stuff to it.
20:20:39 It's not really that difficult. Most people with a website, the problem that they, the average website in the world, the average website in the world has one page.
20:20:52 Just one page and that's because some restaurant says they want a website with their menu so they contract with somebody for a hundred 5,200 bucks and they create a 1 page site that's got their menu and that's it.
20:21:07 Or the same thing for barbershops and so on and so forth. So they can be very, very simple.
20:21:14 Or they can be, I have, I have websites in my own that have thousands of pages.
20:21:19 That are just mine. So, it depends upon whether or not you're willing to actually put the content up there.
20:21:26 So part of it is a writing process and part of it is a technical process. But with WordPress, it's the technical barriers are much less than with almost any other way to do it.
20:21:42 I think that would be interesting.
20:21:46 Just keep an eye.
20:21:45 Okay, well. That is something that I am more than willing to do because I have lots of experience at that.
20:21:59 Okay.
20:21:55 And probably along the way I could also tell you how not to build a website. I have seen some just horrific websites.
20:22:05 Kathleen, who's, has 5 degrees and is members of various professional organizations.
20:22:18 Okay.
20:22:13 She was asked to register for this one conference. Year last year, year before. Every time she would put her information in there when she could print submit, nothing would happen.
20:22:23 And that's because when they built the website, they had this submission process for submitting your curriculum, and all that sort of stuff.
20:22:31 But they didn't have a database behind it. So the button for submit didn't work. It couldn't do anything with that data.
20:22:37 Okay.
20:22:38 And she, she got very frustrated and had me come and play with it. We broke out our Windows machine to make sure that it wasn't just discriminating against Max and no they hadn't actually.
20:22:51 Oh
20:22:49 Tested it. It didn't work.
20:22:51 Yeah. Yeah.
20:22:55 So would this be for in person?
20:22:59 No, this is something we can do remotely.
20:23:02 But that right there is the kind of thing that. People can run into which it would be helpful for you to cover.
20:23:12 For example, I ordered some iris from up. Place called Schriner's Iris Garden and in Oregon one of the famous Iris growers in the United States.
20:23:24 Very good place to buy stuff. Anyway. I use, my iPad and. They wanted me to set up an account so I did that using the, hide my email business.
20:23:38 But then I, there was no. There was no log out, but he says, well, there is on my screen.
20:23:55 Yeah.
20:23:45 So. So I wound up going to my desktop computer, my Mac. And looking at sure enough there it showed me a log out button but on the iPad it didn't So this is they somebody hadn't tested something.
20:24:01 Well, I had a manager who wanted people to he thought the only people would use their website where people in his own organization and he wanted to be logged in all day so he didn't want them to be able to log out.
20:24:14 Yeah.
20:24:14 So I created a lot out button anyway and when you went to try and push it, it would move it.
20:24:24 Yes.
20:24:19 Oh, you stole that idea from early Macintosh. Remember the bomb? That's exactly what I would do.
20:24:29 I'd run away.
20:24:29 Yeah, so he couldn't log out because the button would run away. But, He didn't realize that you could just quit the browser and that would also log you up, but you know, details.
20:24:39 He wasn't. I asked that he be replaced as the head of this project because he was impossible to deal with, but Be that as it may.
20:24:51 I'll, show you how to build a website next month. How's that?
20:24:54 That's great.
20:24:55 Okay. Have fun. See you next month.
20:24:59 Thank you.

Keep your Apple software current

Apple has a page that lists all current Apple operating systems. At the moment, it shows:

  • iOS 17.3.1 for iPhone
  • iPadOS 17.3.1 for iPad
  • macOS 14.3.1 for Macintosh
  • tvOS 17.3 for Apple TV
  • watchOS 10.3.1 for Apple Watch
  • visionOS 1.0.2 for Apple Vision Pro

I strongly recommend that you bookmark this page:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

as Apple updates it when new versions are released.

You should also note that, further down the page, it documents when Apple security updates were released, and what machines they covered.

If you want to be informed, via email, of security updates, go to this page,

https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce

fill in the blanks, and Apple will send you an email every time a security update is released.

This page,

https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo

shows several other mailing lists, covering everything from accessibility features, how to write programs in AppleScript, how to configure Macs and Apple devices for use in the federal government, and other even more obscure topics.

But what if I want to know more?

If you want to get very geeky, you can apply for a free Developer account,

https://developer.apple.com

which gives you access to Apple programming tools, where you can build applications, write scripts, and do odd things, some even useful.

If you are curious about programming, but aren’t sure if it is for you, know that most Apple software is written in a programming language called Swift. It has nothing to do with a famous singer. You can play with Swift using Swift Playgrounds, available for iPad and for Mac. You can read about that here:

https://developer.apple.com/swift-playgrounds

Swift Playgrounds can be downloaded, for free, from the Mac app store and the iOS app store.

macOS Sonoma, iOS 17, iPadOS 17

For October 2023, we delved into topics we’ve hinted at over the past several months: macOS Sonoma (macOS 14), iOS 17, and iPadOS 17. These three new operating systems come with new privacy and security improvements, plus tools to help with greater integration between Apple devices.

Shown below, for example, is a series of widgets that you can add to your macOS desktop. They are literally on the desktop: applications run on top of them, so they don’t interfere with whatever you are doing. These particular widgets show, respectively, the weather at a specific location (clicking on the widget brings up a web page with more information), time zones in various places, a tip on how to do something in macOS, some current headlines, and finally a display of battery status for a mouse and keyboard in use on this Mac.

A selection of widgets added to the screen on macOS Sonoma. If you have multiple screens, each can have its own set of widgets.
A selection of widgets added to the screen on macOS Sonoma. If you have multiple screens, each can have its own set of widgets.

Widgets first appeared on the iPhone and iPad, and have been expanded on both: you can now add widgets to every desktop, not just the opening one.

Security improvements to the Mac, iPhone, and iPad have also been expanded. Most of these require a security chip, which limits these operating systems to more recent devices.

Video recording of the October 17, 2023 meeting

Transcript of the meeting

Pro tip: use your browser to search for particular words or phrases if you don’t want to read everything.

18:33:15 Change the language.
18:33:20 You're not fun.
18:33:24 Kathleen didn't want me to choose Chinese or Arabic or Hebrew.
18:33:28 Yeah.
18:33:32 She's such a spoils part.
18:33:35 Okay. Tonight we're going to talk about, Sonoma and iOS, 17 and so on and so forth.
18:33:46 But first we're gonna have questions and answers. And, and as always, they can be about anything as long as it's.
18:33:53 Related to Apple hardware software. So any questions?
18:33:58 Hmm.
18:34:02 Well.
18:34:01 Lawrence, I have a request.
18:34:04 Yes.
18:34:09 Yes.
18:34:05 A few weeks ago, we talked about our favorite apps. For the Macintosh. Well, I have a favorite app.
18:34:13 That you might want to mention to others. For the iPhone and iPad, it's called Photocard.
18:34:22 Yes.
18:34:20 Made by Bill Atkinson. In the app store since we're coming up on. Howoween Thanksgiving and Christmas.
18:34:29 It's a really nice app for sending. A card, I mean it looked like a postcard.
18:34:37 Via email to a group of people like groups and the context list so You might want to mention that.
18:34:45 Folks night in our regular meeting.
18:34:47 Hey, yeah.
18:34:48 Is that PH or an F?
18:34:51 PH, OTO, photo, card, 2 words.
18:34:57 Bill Atkinson is the Apple, inventor of Quick Draw. Which was the It's the, it's kind of hard to explain what is, but.
18:35:07 In the original Macintosh when it drew things on the screen, it was using Quick Draw, which was a mathematical language.
18:35:14 For rapidly putting up graphical information and it was revolutionary at the time and it allowed the Mac to have a a bit mapped.
18:35:25 Display at the time that everybody else was using basically at dot matrix characters on a TV tube. It was what set the Mac apart from everybody else and in fact it's what made me buy one of the first Macintoshes.
18:35:43 We were living in Japan. At the time and the chief meteorologist for the US Seventh Fleet.
18:35:50 Picked up one in Hong Kong the day they went on sale. In the United States. He picked up one in Hong Kong at a Hong Kong computer store.
18:35:58 I guess it was technically a day later because never mind. He picked up one, he brought it and his daughter Emily had been using it.
18:36:08 And during the demo, he wanted to do something and it spit out the disk that it had because it only had one floppy disk drive and it asked for to Emily's disc.
18:36:17 And Kathleen and I saw that and we were instantly sold on it because prior to that time if you had a computer that had only one floppy drive and it wanted another one you put it in there it just assumed it was the right disc and if you told it to write over the top of something it would.
18:36:34 But this one. Spit the disc out because it said it wasn't Emily's disc and it refused to do anything until it got Emily's desk and we just thought that was that alone was brilliant plus the bitmap graphics even though they were only black back and white.
18:36:48 So we were extremely impressed with it. And, we bought a, I bought a Macintosh downtown, Tokyo, Nakiabara.
18:37:01 They had one on display. You came into the top floor of this building down. Actually, it wasn't, it was on the gains that wasn't Top floor they had cut off all the lights and they had a pillar in the center with a light coming down on it and I said I want to buy that and they said well that's our display and I said I don't care and I want to buy
18:37:22 it so. I got the first one sold in Japan. But, Bill Atkinson was the one who develop this way of rapidly displaying things on screen.
18:37:38 With great great precision we do not really use it today on mac OS 10 because macro attends based on Unix and a bunch of other things.
18:37:50 And they used a new type of system called quartz. You might, if occasionally see in technical documentations references to courts, but courts uses a bunch of, of vectors to draw things on the screen very rapidly.
18:38:08 And it requires staggering amounts of computer horsepower that they didn't have back in the day.
18:38:12 The original Mac is I recare all had a 4 megahertz. 68,000 processor, which is we now have.
18:38:23 We now have processes that are literally millions of times faster. But, photo card was designed by Bill Atkinson.
18:38:34 Cause he, made a lot of money and he decided he didn't want to be a programmer his entire life so he went into photography he's got a big website talking about photography.
18:38:43 And this photo card is free. You just. You can download it and you take a picture with your, iPhone and you can format it as a postcard and send it off to somebody.
18:38:55 Without leaving your phone it's really quite cool. And you can't beat the price.
18:39:02 There are other ones that do this not as well that cost money. So if you want to do that, you can, but.
18:39:11 I'm quite. Impressed with, photo card.
18:39:16 Anything else? Yes.
18:39:18 I have a quick question. Lauren. And I'll say in about the last month or so.
18:39:24 I've been getting these strange junk mails to my icloud email account. And I generally don't use that account and I rarely get an email on it.
18:39:36 And I just wonder if anyone else has that happening. They have titles, but there's symbols mixed in with the title so it's a dead giveaway they look like really weird So I just right click and I send him to junk, but is there anything else I can do to stop that?
18:39:54 Okay.
18:39:54 I can give you some general things to do with what junk mail is, but let me back up to it for a second.
18:40:01 It's not that your icloud account is hacked. I use my icloud account as my principal account.
18:40:09 I have lots of other accounts. The one for straight Macintosh user group is separate from the rest of them the one for my church is separate and so on so forth but most of them the rest of my stuff goes through my.
18:40:25 Hmm.
18:40:21 Cloud account and the reason is the security is much better. And when I say much better on a factor of one to 10 is about 10 times better than anybody else out there.
18:40:31 Having said that, sometimes you can think that you're, your address was compromised when it really wasn't.
18:40:40 I, had a Yahoo account because once upon a time Yahoo had a a photo sharing site.
18:40:51 I can't remember the name of what it was off offhand, but it was owned by Yahoo.
18:40:54 And so I set up an account with Yahoo so I could post photos and it wanted a backup account and for a backup account, a backup account is if you lose your password, what's your backup account so you can log in?
18:41:07 And I thought, well, I don't want to lose track of my photos. I gave it a backup account, which was my dot Mac account.
18:41:11 Well, Yahoo has been hacked 3 times and the first time they got a billion addresses, email addresses, the second time they got a billion and a half, the last one they got like 2.4 billion.
18:41:24 Addresses. And originally it was thought that they only got the addresses themselves, not the passwords and so on and so forth.
18:41:31 It later turned out that they did get the passwords. But I didn't care because I changed the passwords as soon as I found out it was hacked.
18:41:37 So that they didn't get my password. However, they did get the backup email account.
18:41:44 So even though you wouldn't use your icloud account for anything. At some point you might have used it for a bank or for credit card or for grocery store or something else and if they got hacked then your account is available to hackers to spam you.
18:42:01 Not to break into your machine, but to spam you. Or to trick you into giving up some information about yourself.
18:42:09 The other way that people can get that account is that somebody you know could have a machine that got compromised.
18:42:18 99% of the compromise machines in the world are Windows machines. And most of your friends probably have Windows machines.
18:42:25 So if one of them gets hacked and they at some point exchanged email with you. Now the hackers have your email account.
18:42:33 So that's probably why you're, that's probably why it's getting those email messages.
18:42:38 In terms of dealing with. Spam a couple things that I do is that every now and then I will go through and sort my mail by who is sent from.
18:42:52 And if you sort it by who it sent from, quite often a lot of the hackers will use the same thing over and over and over again.
18:42:59 Right now I'm getting something from Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo in case you had noticed has also been hacked.
18:43:08 Okay.
18:43:06 So I might get like 60 A message is from Wells Fargo. I don't have an account at Wells Fargo.
18:43:13 I just delete them all and I can do it all at once because they're sorted by who sent it.
18:43:17 The other thing to note is as you noted, they have these strange symbols at the top. If you sort your, empty, if you're search your emails addresses alphabetically, at the very start you're going to have things like emoji.
18:43:30 Because of just how the Mac sorts things, how computers sort things. The very start you're going to have things that have emojis at the start of this of the subject line.
18:43:41 And so they'll all be there together and you just kill them off because Most human beings don't start an email with an emoji.
18:43:49 Great.
18:43:50 The reason why hackers started with an emoji is because if you sort things alphabetically, they'll be right at the top when you go to look at your email.
18:43:59 So take advantage of the fact that they think you're sorting your messages by alphabetically, sort them by subject, besotting by the subject line, when all of those appear at the top, just get rid of them.
18:44:09 The other thing that I do is that Most people only get email in English and if you get emails in Japanese or Farsi or something else, they'll most often be clustered either at the very start or at the very end.
18:44:27 So if you get a bunch, if you sort them again by by the subject. Then you'll have a whole bunch of foreign languages at the start and whole bunch of at the end and you can just kill off sometimes hundreds of messages.
18:44:39 At once just by sorting in that way. I also would urge you to All the time go into your your spam mail and your junk mail and just delete it.
18:44:51 A lot of people, they put it in junk mail, but they don't delete it or they don't empty the trash.
18:44:57 This one woman, she had a map, she had an iPhone that had the standard 5 GB I cloud account and she was running out of space and she said I don't have anything in my iPhone on my iPhone.
18:45:08 Yeah, but she never deleted any of her junk mail. She never deleted any of her trash.
18:45:13 I deleted both and she had, there was half, it was half the space on her iPhone was just Messages that she wasn't looking at anymore, but they're still there until you delete them.
18:45:22 Right. Hmm.
18:45:22 So Start your email to get rid of a lot of the spam and then delete your spam and your Trash to free up space.
18:45:34 I haven't.
18:45:33 Okay, I only get like one a day. But they all kind of have a similarity and somewhere in the address it says Pop.
18:45:43 Which seems odd and then it has like these asterisks or hyphens or things between the letters.
18:45:50 Quite often.
18:45:50 But I can get a lot of them. It just seemed strange. I've never gotten ones that look like that before.
18:45:56 Right often, spammers will try to get around things like, for example, right now.
18:46:01 Almost everybody on plan is getting a spam email about your McCaffy account has expired. McCaffy.
18:46:10 Is, antivirus software that most manufacturers, Windows manufacturers, include a ninety-day account when they sell you a new machine.
18:46:20 They say comes with the cafe. They don't tell you that it's only for 90 days and then you have to buy it.
18:46:24 So most PCs come with. McCaffy and they know that most people won't renew it but it'll still come up and flag them.
18:46:45 Okay.
18:46:37 So in order to make it look like it's from a cafe they will send out spam email that says it's from a cafe and we received your order for $468 to renew your Kit McCaffy account which is way more this than it costs.
18:46:49 Hoping that you'll panic and logging on there and tell them something that allows them to charge you real money.
18:46:55 In order to get around the fact that people are now very suspicious of McCaffy, people will go through their mail and they'll sort and they'll say search for everything that has McCaffy and clump them all together so I can get rid of them all at once.
18:47:12 Yeah.
18:47:07 One way around that is to put spaces in the word macaffe. So without MC space, AFF, A, FEE, so that it still says McCaffy, but.
18:47:18 But it'll it'll get rid of that. It'll bypass that screening process and they'll stick in.
18:47:24 Little apostrophes or hyphens or other things to space it out so that they're still sending you the same spam, but they're hoping that it gets past your anti-spam.
18:47:34 Controls. So that's why you see a lot of that. When you see something about pop quite often It could be referring to an older, protocol used in, for email called pop which stands for post office protocol most of the most people today they should be using something called IMAP.
18:47:55 Hmm.
18:47:53 Which is much faster and convenient and so on and so forth. I'm maps the modern way of doing it and pop is the older way of doing it.
18:48:01 Hmm.
18:48:01 And it's possible that. That at some point it was passing through a pop account. Oh, so that might have something to do, why pops there?
18:48:08 Huh. Yeah. Thank you.
18:48:13 I see.
18:48:15 Yeah, I don't know whether you're gonna be able to help me with this or not.
18:48:21 I get the New York Times. I have Safari and I have Gmail. And when I try to send an article from the New York Times to somebody else.
18:48:33 I used to Do it without any problem at all. Now I get this message that says I can't connect.
18:48:40 To the Gmail account and then it has my, and it asks for the password.
18:48:48 So I tried to put in the password that I had and it doesn't like that of course.
18:48:54 So I went into Gmail, changed my password. Still didn't like it. So I thought, well, maybe it's the New York Times problem.
18:49:04 So I went to the New York Times and changed my password there. Doesn't have any effect at all.
18:49:12 So do you have any idea what the problem is?
18:49:16 I've been having problems with, authentication with, Gmail myself and as much as I know my password is correct and so on and so forth but quite often I'll get an error if I try to send through things through.
18:49:30 Gmail. And part of that has to do with that Gmail is not really an email.
18:49:36 System. Gmail is really just a whole bunch of web pages when you when you get your email in in Gmail, it's accepting email, but it's being stored in Google as web pages because Google's all about web.
18:49:52 So all of your email, you can go out, you can go look at your Gmail with a web browser and it's actually more full-featured than if you try to use a web, try to use an email client for it because it's web pages and I think that Gmail recently has has some kind of issue with their authentication.
18:50:12 So your passwords probably just fine, but the handoff between the New York Times and Gmail isn't working right.
18:50:19 And I've had the same problem and. They're just sometimes I just don't do it that way and I do it some other way.
18:50:26 But it's not you. I've had the same problem with New York Times. My daughter has an icloud account and she has a Gmail account and I was sending it to her Gmail.
18:50:38 I was sending things that I wanted her to read to her Gmail account because she shares it with her husband.
18:50:43 It's both of their names at Gmail. But it was stopped working, so I'm just plaguing her with it.
18:50:50 But I don't have a solution. I just have seen the same thing. That's all I can tell you.
18:50:55 Okay, what I've been doing is copying the, routing thing and putting it in an email to send.
18:51:02 So that's how I'm working around it, but you think that eventually they'll solve the problem?
18:51:07 I don't know. I don't know. Gene, Google and Apple and Microsoft.
18:51:15 All working to try to ween us away from passwords entirely and used pass keys. We should probably at some point talk about pass keys because Apple's pushing them really hard.
18:51:30 Microsoft pushing them really hard and Google is pushing them really hard. And where the past key is is just basically a piece of code that you have on your computer.
18:51:41 That identifies that yes, you really are who you say you are. So you don't want to have to type in a password when you go to to type in a password when you go to to a website.
18:51:52 Quite often people steal websites by setting up fake websites that look like what you think is a real site and you type in your real password and at that point they have your real account name and real password to the real site and then they use that for bad nefarious things.
18:52:07 And so Apple and Microsoft and Google are trying to get us to use task keys. But the way in which Microsoft is doing it is different from the way Apple's doing it and it's different the way Gmail is doing it.
18:52:22 It's kind of interesting because Apple was the first one with the idea, but Microsoft and Google didn't want to do it the way that Apple did.
18:52:32 They wanted to do it a slightly different way. And they wanted to do it a slightly different way. And it could be just they're trying to work through the hoops to have a different way.
18:52:41 And it could be just they're trying to work through the hoops to have a unified way of doing this.
18:52:41 But once you once you have a pass key set up for an account, it should be transparent between the 3 of them.
18:52:47 But if you If you just step back a second, you'll realize that your pass key for the New York Times and your pass key for Google, Gmail, and your PASS key for your password and Chrome for the New York Times could be 3 different things.
18:53:07 Hmm.
18:53:08 So it's a little bit complicated.
18:53:12 Okay, thank you.
18:53:14 I have another question about. Email. And the 3 devices I have an iPad, an imac, and an iPhone.
18:53:24 And the mail comes in to all the accounts. But if I delete it, On my imac.
18:53:30 And then remember to do the trash, that's fine, but then those messages are still on the iPhone and still on the Mac.
18:53:39 And you know, that's very laborious on. Especially the iPad to just. You know, you have to move them and put them in.
18:53:51 Yes.
18:53:49 The trash and I don't know what setting I need to change in order to have it be when I delete it if I delete it from my phone it should be gone from the computer and from the iPad, but it's not.
18:54:02 Yeah. The.
18:54:12 The answer is that if you're talking about messages as in Apple messages. The one of the things that you should do is to make sure that you're messages are synced via icloud.
18:54:27 Icloud is where Apple stores, photos, I, where they stored documents where they store passwords, where they store messages, email, everything.
18:54:37 Go through icloud. If you sync your accounts through icloud, then your map knows that the message account that you're using If you delete it from your Mac, it should delete it from the other ones as well.
18:54:52 However, that
18:54:52 Okay, well. Well, yeah, I don't know how to do that, so I'll have to find.
18:54:58 Okay.
18:54:59 You, easiest ways to show you. Share screen.
18:55:09 If we come up here to.
18:55:17 Up at the top of your preferences, system settings. You can actually let me show you this on a I phone, cause I wanna make sure that I got this set up front properly anyway.
18:55:34 Good.
18:55:40 I saw this earlier. There you are.
18:55:45 Okay.
18:55:50 And. If I come up into settings. Up at the top and your iPhone and it also works a mac OS.
18:56:01 If you click up at the top where it's got your picture and your eye account, a cloud account and everything where it says icloud.
18:56:09 It says what do you want to go on there and if you turn on photos, icloud, icloud mail, passwords, all this sort of stuff.
18:56:17 You turn those on, it will sync them. So that what appears on your iPhone is the same as of what appears in your iPad is the same as what appears on your Mac.
18:56:27 And the the good news bad news is you got to be a little bit careful with photos because it can easily overwhelm your account.
18:56:34 Kathleen and I, we share a 200 GB account so we're not too worried about that but for a lot of other people could overwhelm your account.
18:56:42 And if you do this, then you have a better chance that. The, the,
18:56:52 The messages will get. Deleted. Having said that, there are some, there are some problems with this.
18:57:02 And the biggest one is that I ran into this all the time. You can have, you can have multiple messy strings talking to the same person.
18:57:12 My daughter, I have one message string that goes to her and Kathleen. My daughter's name is like Cara.
18:57:18 So if I send it to like her and Kathleen, that might be one message string in messages.
18:57:24 But if I send it to Kathleen and like her, even though they're the same 2 people, it'll create a separate string.
18:57:30 Yes.
18:57:30 And because it's a phone if I. Send it to my daughter's. Phone number.
18:57:37 It'll be a separate thread than if I send it to her email account. So if you just think about Kathleen's email account.
18:57:44 My daughter's email account. And then switching the names back and forth, you could come up with dozens of different combinations for the same 2 people.
18:57:55 And That gets a little bit complicated if you try to delete the message on your Mac because your Mac doesn't have a phone number.
18:58:03 Your Mac is only going to get those messages that they go to the email account. If they go to the phone number, your Mac's not going to see it.
18:58:09 Unless you set up your Mac to respond to the phone numbers, which you can do. You can say, it goes to this phone numbers, put it on the Mac anyway.
18:58:17 But Just for the sake of argument, they're just they're dozens of different combinations and Apple can't fix that problem.
18:58:27 Cool.
18:58:25 Because the protocol that Messages uses is something called SMS. And SMS was invented long before Apple came along.
18:58:35 SMS was, stands for simple mail system. It was invented by the phone company's when they had pagers, even though those old little pagers used to have 128 character messages.
18:58:47 That's where messages comes from. It was used by pagers. Nobody has a pager anymore.
18:58:51 Every single pager company in the United States has gone out of business, but that protocol is still used for messages.
18:58:57 So yes, you can delete it, but you're going to be frustrated as I am and there's really nothing Apple can do or you can do to fix that.
18:59:06 Okay, well.
18:59:06 Unless you're just really disciplined and how you send messages, which nobody is. You do it on the spur of the moment.
18:59:13 If something occurs to you, and if I send it to Kathleen and Lai Car and then I respond to like her and Kathleen I've now got 2 threads going and if I use their phone numbers I could have a dozen threads going.
18:59:26 For the same conversation.
18:59:29 So I.
18:59:29 Well, I generally use my iPhone for messages and I don't message from my computer, so.
18:59:35 Yeah, I'm just I'm just explaining why it's difficult to kill them off because each device interprets that slightly differently.
18:59:43 And if all you have to do is just change recipients, what use the phone number instead of the email or the email instead of the phone number, or if you're sending it to multiple people at once, just list them in different orders and you create new threads.
18:59:56 Yeah.
18:59:56 And because it's a really, really old protocol and it doesn't, it's, it's, it's really.
19:00:04 Stupid. The big advantage of using messages for for sending messages, Apple messages for sending messages. Is that it goes as data.
19:00:16 If you send it to the phone number, it always goes as a message and the phone companies count it.
19:00:23 So if you somebody has has a very limited account that only allows a hundred messages a day. They'll get charged for those like 10 cents, 15 cents a message.
19:00:32 But if you send it as data, it's invisible to the phone company, the phone company doesn't see it.
19:00:37 And yet the people on the other end still get it. So message is a really quite powerful and it really, really, really torqued off Verizon and AT and T and everybody went Apple came up with it.
19:00:49 It's still using that old protocol in order to make it compatible. And that makes it difficult.
19:01:02 Yeah.
19:00:56 If you notice that you get messages and some are in blue and some are in green. If you get a message from somebody and it's green, it means that they have an Android phone.
19:01:12 Yeah.
19:01:08 If it's in blue, it means I have an iPhone. And that's really convenient because it means that for things like you want to send a emoji or you want to send lots of things to somebody's got a blue messages, they'll get it.
19:01:26 There's a good chance if you send it somebody's got the green messages they won't get it because the message.
19:01:30 Client on on Android is not that sophisticated.
19:01:34 One thing I do like about the iPhone and messages is that when you send it to another person with an IVR and it says delivered, you know it's gotten there.
19:01:44 Yes.
19:01:45 With the other kind of phone, you don't know.
19:01:47 No, no, and Google has actually tried suing Apple to make, to get Apple to help them make their client better.
19:01:57 And they went to a judge with that as the basis of a suit and the judge laugh literally laughed at them and threw it out.
19:02:06 Because no, Not a research and development agency for Google. So that didn't work. Good track.
19:02:15 My daughter, my daughter and son in law live in Australia and I can my daughter has a iPhone and my son-in-law.
19:02:24 It's apples, so he has an Android. So I can text back and forth with my daughter.
19:02:29 With no problem, it's, you know, it's free and all that stuff, but for my son a lot, I'd have to add on international to my Verizon plan and to be able to text back and forth.
19:02:41 So we use that. Messenger in in Facebook to communicate back and forth that's what we came up with.
19:02:50 Yeah, I I cannot begin to tell you how much contempt I have for Facebook. Messenger. I refuse.
19:02:59 I'm with you, I hate it.
19:03:01 Yeah. I refuse to answer Facebook messages except for one relative. But anybody else sends me a Facebook message I'm not ever gonna reply.
19:03:14 Yep, yep.
19:03:16 Any other questions?
19:03:18 I had one name, a quick question. I'm using Sonoma on my new MacBook Pro M 2 max.
19:03:27 And a strange quirk seems to crop up when I'm using either the track pad or my mouse.
19:03:38 On a, in Safari. I, when I'm just moving the mouse along the screen.
19:03:48 It just changes web pages on them for some instantaneous thing. And goes back to my homepage if I'm on some other website Yeah, all of a sudden it just blinks to the other to back to the homepage.
19:04:04 And luckily there's history so I can go back to where I was. But, so I checked on the internet and several other people said they had this problem and no one knew how to knows how to solve it.
19:04:16 The, some people said, okay, change your track pads speed and don't use tap to click.
19:04:26 I try that. It still doesn't. Yeah. And so I don't know what's going on there.
19:04:32 I don't know if you've ever heard of that.
19:04:33 If this is on your track pad or track ball or what?
19:04:41 Huh.
19:04:37 I haven't, no, the laptop MacBook Pro trackpad. And I have a wireless mouse as well.
19:04:47 And it doesn't matter which one I use if I just move the cursor. Trying to click on something on a webpage, all of a sudden it just jumps.
19:04:55 Now it doesn't jump back to my homepage and It doesn't happen all the time.
19:05:01 It's like intermittent. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. But it's really annoying and I so a lot of people had the same problem but no one knows why it happens or it's just on Sonoma and it's never happened in Monterey.
19:05:16 I don't have an explanation for that. I do know you can run into problems with the trackpad spontaneously doing strange things, but that's caused by the fact that If you get have any kind of static charge on your body.
19:05:32 When you come near the track pad it responds as if you're touching it and so you can have goose movements.
19:05:38 Oh, do you? That could be it. That could be it.
19:05:51 Yeah.
19:05:40 Well, if you normally see that in the wintertime when it starts getting cooler. It hasn't been that cold though, but if you turned on the heat in your house, it could be you could be just the static chart.
19:05:58 I will tell you something that I did and I did this long ago because I was I have 2 degrees in the history, but I was a computer professional.
19:06:05 I only wear cotton and before I sit down at a computer I always wash my hands. There are 2 reasons for watching.
19:06:13 Well, wearing the cotton, if you're wearing cotton, you can't build up a, you, it's harder to build up a static charge.
19:06:18 But the washing your hands does 2 things. It gets the oils off of your hand. But the other thing does, touching the faucet.
19:06:25 The faucet in your home is grounded. And touching the faucet ground you and washing your hands washes off the oils and static.
19:06:33 So it's a I've been religious about that and I cracked me up because the last 10 days my granddaughter was here from England.
19:06:44 She's 6. And she wanted to use her mother's iPad and before she did anything she went into bathroom washed her hands and I thought she is trained well.
19:06:56 Of course my daughter That was first thing I ever, she started using a computer when she was around 6 and I said, now wash your hands.
19:07:03 So apparently my daughter has passed that on to her. To her daughter.
19:07:06 Well, thank you. I think I'll give that a shot. It does sound like the symptom, though.
19:07:11 And the reason is that the way the track pad works is through induction and you can create that a similar, a similar type of.
19:07:20 Field just with your hands if there's a static charge on it.
19:07:22 Right. Okay, thank you.
19:07:25 Can you disable the trackpad or? Oh, you can, okay.
19:07:31 No, not really.
19:07:37 Right, right.
19:07:29 No. Now, when you're, when your, when your MacBook turns on, it knows there's an iPad and there's and you really don't want to be able.
19:07:41 To do that, yeah. Yeah.
19:07:42 The mess with that. Anyway, it's 7 o'clock and now I believe so we will start the program.
19:07:53 I don't have the president or vice president so we'll just skip reports from, president or treasurer, so we'll skip reports from them.
19:08:04 Apple in case you had notice the pattern. In the spring they have major announcements for hardware and the start of June they usually have their Apple developers conference which they talk about new operating systems that they're coming up with and then in the fall they released the operating systems and they in September.
19:08:29 They released a new version of operating systems for watches, iPads, iPhones, home pod.
19:08:39 Most people don't know that it gets updated because it happens kind of invisibly. All kinds of stuff, including the Mac.
19:08:44 And this year was no exception. The a lot of people if if you read some of the commentary sites they say well they didn't really do much of it all just cosmetic and that's not true at all.
19:08:58 The, the Apple made a whole bunch of security and privacy. Changes they made several changes in terms of the functioning of the operating system and then they made some cosmetic ones.
19:09:12 For obvious reasons because I'm gonna do a demo we're gonna focus mostly on the cosmetic ones because those are the ones that I can actually show you.
19:09:21 But as an example of the kind of things that they have behind the scenes. They greatly cracked down on privacy restrictions.
19:09:28 You will see this sometimes when you've launched Safari and you try to go to a site that you've never gone to before.
19:09:34 And it just takes your browser a little while. And that's because the safari is trying to create a secure tunnel between your machine.
19:09:43 And what you're talking to. And if the other, if the other site isn't set up properly, it'll take a while and try, it'll try A, it'll try B, it'll try to see and eventually it might just give up and say, I can't get there.
19:09:57 And yet if you launched some other browser, it might work. And the reason because it for that is that Apple is getting really really picky about security for websites.
19:10:08 It's when you when you launch when you launch the fire and try to go to the site it checks it against a black list that Apple automatically updates on your machine every time you turn on your machine.
19:10:20 Checks that against a black list of compromise sites and just really bad sites. It checks the security certificate on your site.
19:10:30 And, certificate on the site that you're going to, it checks to see that your machine is actually properly configured.
19:10:39 And if you ever have your machine stolen, one of the things that it does is that when, when the thief launches, assuming they can break into the machine and right now it's kind of hard to break into the machine if they don't have your a username and password, but assuming that the thief can break into the machine and you've reported it stolen when the thief goes to that
19:11:01 website, Apple looks up a list of stolen machines and tracks their location and then notifies people, hey, this dollar machine is at this address.
19:11:12 And it's using GPS location for with IP to tell people where the Shell machine is.
19:11:19 So it's doing a lot of It's a doing a lot of stuff to protect you that you don't actually see.
19:11:25 The other thing they're doing in terms of just, on the security front and privacy front.
19:11:31 Is they are greatly cracking down on how you can share things. You want to share photos, you want to say share video, you want to share a lot of things.
19:11:41 Apple's very picky about checking the security of the people you're sending it to. So if you are sending it to, you know, Mike Johnson and it thinks you picked the right, and wrong, might argue with you about that.
19:11:58 And where it does a lot of the processing now, particularly if you have an Apple silicon machine, I can ask Siri for the time and Siri will give me the time.
19:12:09 In the past it used to ask Cupertino, okay, this guy is located in Washington State, New West and my Syrian another room is giving me the time.
19:12:19 Okay.
19:12:23 I could ask, I could ask for the time and it would have to ask Cupertino, he's based here, what's the time there?
19:12:29 And they'll come back and give me the time. Now, if you have an Apple Silicon machine, all of that processing goes on on the machine.
19:12:36 It'll give you the time. It'll give you weather in which Siri asked for the weather instead of asking it for you.
19:12:43 And so it'll just give you back the weather. A lot of things that can process on the machine.
19:12:48 Now if you ask for, I can't remember what it was. Kathleen and I were wondering when a movie came out.
19:12:55 And so I asked theory. Last night when this movie came out and Siri came up with an answer It can't do that kind of processing on on your computer because it doesn't know that.
19:13:07 So it had to go out and ask but came back instantly with the with the answer. So it's doing a lot of that on on your machine in order to protect your privacy.
19:13:16 Google recently was sued by the, European Union for violations of Oh, stop it. My phone's trying to answer all these questions that I just asked.
19:13:32 Good was recently, suited by the European Union for, Google has this thing called the Ign, incognito mode.
19:13:41 Where if you fire up Google Chrome and you go to incognito, you have a private tunnel.
19:13:48 And it doesn't share your name or your gender or anything about that. However, it still collects that information, so it doesn't know your name doesn't know your gender, but it knows that this person on this machine at this IP address looked up dockers and it looked up support hose and it looked up.
19:14:11 Penny liners or what it doesn't make any difference what it is you're looking up.
19:14:15 It knows that that person was looking for those kind of things and it keeps track and it creates an electronic profile that they sell to advertisers.
19:14:22 So on one hand, they said they're protecting your privacy, but on the other hand, they were not protecting your privacy.
19:14:28 And, and the European Union is charged, I can't remember, it was 6 8 billion dollar.
19:14:32 Fine for this and they're they're protesting this. But Apple, when you, When you ask for things from Siri, even if it has to go to Cupertino.
19:14:42 Apple doesn't give that stuff away. Doesn't tell anybody about it. Doesn't keep it.
19:14:47 They get rid of it. So they're doing a lot to protect your privacy and it's in it's invisible.
19:14:55 So I can't really demonstrate that. I can just tell you that that happens. But there are some things that I can demonstrate.
19:15:01 So I'm going to start off with the iPhone because the iPhone is the hardest thing for me to demonstrate.
19:15:11 But it so happens that I have the means. So I'll do it anyway.
19:15:23 And I did it wrong.
19:15:47 I'm not going to do it that way because .
19:15:53 I screen shared earlier and then I killed it. And in a way that I can't share it again.
19:16:00 Drat.
19:16:02 There's a little tiny icon at the top of your screen in blue that just I think that's new maybe that has something to do with it.
19:16:09 Oh, here it is. I found it.
19:16:11 Okay.
19:16:13 Alright.
19:16:18 One of the things that you should note is that as somebody mentioned, there's this little tiny icon up here.
19:16:24 This icon means that I am sharing my screen with something. Unfortunately, I managed to kill it so Kathleen can't see it anymore, but that icon means that I am sharing my screen.
19:16:35 With something I can share it with my computer or in What I was trying to do is also share it with my TV, but I managed to kill that off.
19:16:44 So that's new. This part up here is called Do you remember what that's called, Kathleen?
19:16:53 Dynamic Island.
19:16:51 Since I can't see it's hard. Dining Eric Island. And I managed to.
19:17:01 Kill it off again.
19:17:07 Hold on a second, I need to. Turn on Meringue, so Kathleen can see what I'm doing.
19:17:18 Speaking, Rich, I'll show you how to turn on nearing. I killed the TV, so I have to turn the TV on.
19:17:34 And I turned the TV completely off. Oh well. Yes.
19:17:43 Oh yes, I can do it that way. Sarah, turn on TV.
19:17:49 Didn't want to. Well, so much for that part of the. 24 7 and we have a lot of support.
19:18:05 New video tonight. Okay.
19:18:11 Back to my not terribly well done. Yeah.
19:18:20 Well, Fooi. I can either mirror it to the TV or I can mirror it to you, but I can't do both.
19:18:28 So. I'm just going to tell you what it can do. The, they've added more control panels to the iPhone that allow you to do all kinds of things including screen marrying and adaptive listening if you have a hearing aid and a bunch of other stuff.
19:18:50 And I was gonna show you some of that, but I guess I'm not going to. Instead, I'm going to talk about some other things that it did.
19:18:57 I took some photos. And I went to show you kind of some different things you can do with. The photos.
19:19:07 These photos were taken on a new iPhone 15. And if you look at the sizes of them.
19:19:15 There this one here is 2.3 MB. This one's 3.2 8 MB.
19:19:24 This one is 6 MB. This one's 3.3 4 5 MB.
19:19:27 So. This one that 6 seems a little bit different, but the other ones aren't that odd.
19:19:33 Then you look at the dimensions. The first one is 4,032 by 3,024 pixels.
19:19:41 The next one is 4,032 by 3,024. This one is 5,712 by 4,284 pixels.
19:19:50 This one's 4,000 324,032 by. 3,024.
19:19:57 If you are really good at math, you'll realize that Most of these are.
19:20:06 12 megapixel, but. One of them is 24 pit megapixels.
19:20:12 And, but they all seem, you know, not that big, but if you export them as JPEGs, you'll see that there's a dramatic difference in size.
19:20:21 The H. A HEIC and I don't remember what it stands for, it's high efficiency, something rather.
19:20:29 Is Apple's format for cramming an awful lot of information. Into very little space and when you export them as JPEGs you'll see that they're actually much larger.
19:20:39 So this one that's 4,032 by 3,024 is actually 5 MB this one is 3.9 8 5 MB this one's 4.6 9 MB but the one that was 5,712 pixels across is actually a 10 MB picture picture.
19:21:03 So the, the, if you have this new phone, it can take really, really, really. High resolution pictures but only with the standard camera.
19:21:15 And there's a reason for that. And if I look at these. Photos. Open them up.
19:21:27 This one is taken with the wide angle lens. And it's it uses the standard camera, but it's just a wide angle mode.
19:21:37 This is the standard camera in standard mode. And if I blow this up, you'll see that it's really, really, really.
19:21:45 Detailed even if I blow it up because it's a lot more pixels there so very, very, very detailed picture of this.
19:21:55 Maple. This one is at 2 X and this is at 5 X. And the way in which Apple did this is actually quite clever.
19:22:06 If you look at professional cameras. A lot of them have what's a Pentax lens.
19:22:15 Pentax is the name of company, but it's also the type of box that has where the light balances around off of mirrors on the inside of the camera to increase the focal length without having a huge camera.
19:22:26 And Apple did the same thing only in this very, very thin. Iphone it's the same basically same size as regular iPhones, but it does at either 6 or 7 times it bounces the light around using mirrors inside of the camera.
19:22:42 To get of it a longer focal length. Though the farther it is from the lens to where it's recorded.
19:22:48 The larger something can be at a distance. So. That's what they did is they stuck a bunch of mirrors in here to increase the focal length without increasing the size of the camera.
19:22:59 That was one trick. The other thing is that it's image stabilized. So it bounces around with the motion to stabilize the motion.
19:23:07 So you can take a You can take a telephoto picture with this new camera and it's still image stabilized or you can take a video and it's image stabilized because it's got a bunch of little sensors in there that move it around.
19:23:21 As your body moves around. You can't do a huge amount of moving, but you can. You can bounce around quite well and it's also very good in low light.
19:23:30 I took these photos. Today at, at 4 o'clock. And as you see, It was very, very dark and rainy.
19:23:39 It was pouring rain when I took this. And yet that photo looks. Really, really nice and rich.
19:23:45 The exposure on it's just fine very very wet but nice rich photo in dim light. And that's the the new photo that they, new camera that have and the new iPhone.
19:23:59 But I lot of the other things that are on iOS 17 will work on any. Camera produced since the iPhone XS.
19:24:10 Camera. It's backward compatible. But some of the features won't work unless you have the newer hardware.
19:24:18 But in terms of most of the things it'll do. As an example, on the front you can have.
19:24:26 An image and I'm going to hold this up. That is a custom, image on the front of the camera that I added.
19:24:33 And I can, I added the. The fonts at the top where it displays the time, that's all custom.
19:24:43 It has an interface that allows you to to change that sort of stuff and you also have custom cards for some of your contacts.
19:24:51 So Kathleen calls me. Let's see if I can show her card.
19:25:07 If Kathleen calls me, I get a full screen of that. Of that photo.
19:25:15 It fills the entire front of the camera. So there's I can just tell that a glance that Kathleen's calling me.
19:25:19 And you can set that up for any of your contacts that you feel like. So a lot of a lot of nice things that they did with it in addition to the privacy and security issues.
19:25:35 So I'm quite, quite impressed with the new operating system. And if you have an iPhone, They can run IS iOS 17.
19:25:46 I highly recommend that you install it without hesitation because among other things is much more secure than prior operating systems.
19:25:55 Oh, the other thing I wanted to show you. Is that Apple has these widgets up here in this corner you'll see a widget that has a world clock.
19:26:05 And the world clock. It shows time zones for here for, Tokyo, for,
19:26:16 Alexandria, Virginia and for London because I have various relatives in those places. But it used to be that you could only have an image on the front.
19:26:27 On the front page, but if you move internally, you can now have as many widgets on any page that you want.
19:26:33 So, and. As many widgets as you want. And what a widget is is just a larger.
19:26:40 You kind of preview of what that app would do if you were running that app as a whole.
19:26:47 So the world clock if you run the world pocket looks like this. But the widget. Doesn't take up nearly as much space and it's just in that upper corner.
19:26:57 So, lots of different things have done with, with widgets and customization. And on the iPad, the iPad.
19:27:08 Has added widgets. Again, you can have one widget before and now you can have a widget on every screen.
19:27:16 And the iPad also has one of the things that I really like is that has the health data. In the past, There's a health app on the iPhone.
19:27:26 But. It can have an awful lot of information. But it's on a fairly small screen.
19:27:34 And. On the iPad, you have a much larger presentation so they can have a lot more detailed data.
19:27:42 And the health app on the iPhone will allow you to hook into things like a Olympic medical systems health record.
19:27:53 So their patient portal, you can suck all that stuff into Apple health and have it all in one place.
19:27:58 You can get. How far you walk that day you can get how many breaths per minute were recorded by your watch as well as gift your lab results from.
19:28:08 Going to the clinic and having your blood drawn all in one place. So. Lots of Very good changes large and small.
19:28:19 On the iPad as well. On the Mac. This first slide doesn't really tell you much.
19:28:29 Just tells you the Apple says it runs on all these platforms, which big deal. Here they were really happy with the fact that the especially on the Apple silicon machines they can get really fast.
19:28:40 Games running which I'm not a big game player so didn't really care too much about that but this is, this particular one shows profiles where this individual has a profile for home and a profile for school in Safari and I'm going to demonstrate that in a second.
19:29:01 But it, I, they've had profiles in. And for safari before but they were kind of clutsy and I didn't use them.
19:29:10 I used profiles on and chrome all the time so that if I'm doing something for my church it's different than for the user group and it's different for me and so on and so forth.
19:29:21 And now they've got profiles in Safari that actually work quite well. The other thing that you have are widgets.
19:29:28 So. There's a time widget here and weather widget and this is a photo widget and reminders and all kinds of things with widgets.
19:29:38 And I can't show you this because this is trying to show you a new feature in Facetime.
19:29:44 In Facetime. If you are doing Facetime presentation with say 5 or 6 people, you can now insert yourself into the image and your screen will appear behind you.
19:29:56 So it looks like you're standing in front of a blackboard, but this gentleman's actually got a computer in front of him and Facetime is fake projecting the screen behind him and he's just kind of seenlessly in front of it.
19:30:10 So it looks like he's got a big whiteboard behind it. But that only works with Face Time.
19:30:16 So I can show you that. However, they have some things that you can do with Zoom and I'm going to stop screen sharing to show you that because this is all also part of their presentation.
19:30:31 And that is they've implemented something called gestures. Some of these gestures I find difficult, like for example they have gestures where I can have a heart.
19:30:40 And I can. Rarely get this to work. But if it works right, it you should see parts bubbling out of my hands and I don't happen to see anything.
19:30:50 The other one they have is that you can have a thumbs up and it'll create a thumbs up gesture.
19:30:55 Does everyone see that? Okay, and if you have you can have a thumbs down and it'll give you a big Thumbs down.
19:31:04 But if you have 2 thumbs up.
19:31:07 You get fireworks. And if you have 2 thumbs down, you can pretend that it's Washington.
19:31:13 Any time of the year, any time at all, just starts raining. And you can have, let's see.
19:31:20 Bubbles if you do this And if you like Star Wars, you can do.
19:31:28 Well, that's a wrong one. That's an interest. I can't remember. There's a way to do lasers, but I don't remember how to do it.
19:31:36 Yeah, I don't remember. Anyway, there's a way to do lasers as well.
19:31:42 These are called gestures. They work in Facetime and for they'll also work in Google Meet and in Zoom obviously and other things as well.
19:31:52 So the next time you're Facetime with someone, if you want to give them a thrill, you can use gestures.
19:31:58 And I'll post these speaking which I should post something else, but I'll do that when I go back to my showing my desktop.
19:32:07 Yeah.
19:32:06 To do those work on the iPhone and the iPad with iOS 17
19:32:16 Yeah.
19:32:12 I know they work in the iPhone. I don't know if they work in the iPad because I haven't tried it but and some of the things that I'm talking about may only work if you have an Apple silicon machine.
19:32:23 The iPad and iPhone have Apple Silicon, but some of these things may require newer machines, then I don't happen to know.
19:32:34 It may require an Apple silicon machine. For some things, but I want to get back to my desktop.
19:32:44 And what was I gonna show you on the desktop? Oh, widgets.
19:32:52 This is a widget. That I have and you don't see it on my screen because I have 2 screens and this is on my other screen showing the when I snapped this this was several days ago.
19:33:06 This is the weather in Squim and it's showing you the weather. Here's the various times zones.
19:33:11 These are one thing that a lot of people don't realize there's a little tip thing built into the Mac that'll tell you how to use new features and it also exists on the iPhone.
19:33:23 There's an application called tips. There's an application called tips on the iPad. Just launch it and go through it because you'll learn things that you probably didn't know.
19:33:31 Here we have some news headlines and here's the battery level of my keyboard in my wireless mouse.
19:33:38 I have widgets for these plus some other things but those are the widgets and they you can have them all clustered together or you can have different widgets on different screens.
19:33:50 So just go to town with widgets. Another thing that I've talked about, I told you this was true, but I never actually showed and I'm not sure that it will work, but I got to try it.
19:34:00 Is that you can Now if you have an Apple silicon machine, you can now get a lot of the apps for iPhones.
19:34:11 On your on your Mac and one of the things that I like to play is mahjong which is a ancient Chinese game and most of the Mahjong games on the Mac have commercials and I couldn't stand the commercials.
19:34:28 Well, this mahjong game is for the iPhone and it doesn't have commercials.
19:34:34 So I immediately glommed onto that so that I can play mahjong. When I'm on hold, I will quite often play mjong or solitaire or something just because I'm stuck on hold and I don't want to be on hold.
19:34:47 One thing you will notice with these games that were reported from the iPhone is they have very simple interfaces.
19:34:53 If you go up under the menu, there's really nothing there. But, this will take you home.
19:34:59 And you can play a new game and it's set up. Very very simply because It's basically from an iPhone.
19:35:09 App and there's Not that much you can do with it, so. Let's go here and exit to point out of it or I could have gone up to the quit menu.
19:35:22 But that was basically unchanged from an iPhone app to work on a Mac and on the Mac it's got a bigger screen so it takes up more space but it's a fairly limited set of interface because there's not much you can do with it but on the other hand from mahjong i don't really need a heck of a lot So that's kind of cool.
19:35:46 And I thought I'd just show you that. Something that a lot of people don't know why you would ever subscribe to Apple Arcade.
19:35:56 I will tell you one reason to subscribe to Apple arcade. The arcade games have no advertisements.
19:36:01 So if it's if you like playing games and you can't stand the advertisements, you can subscribe to Apple Arcade and they don't have advertisements.
19:36:10 And now I want to show you Safari. This is Safari and when it came up. You'll notice that there's something new up here.
19:36:20 It says Lawrence. This is my basically the my standard. How I want Safari to come up when I'm working for me.
19:36:29 This is showing my website. This website has lists of my publications and there are quite a few of them.
19:36:39 Publications. And that's this is where I put them and I've only got like a third of them up, but.
19:36:46 I put them up on this one site. So. When I launched the far, I'd like to make sure that the site is actually up.
19:36:53 So that's my startup screen. And then I have things that I use all the time. The news sites and personal things having to do with like going to Olympic medical and church and whatnot and tools that I use quite often.
19:37:09 That's for me. But say I'm doing something for straight Macintosh user group. I can change who I am by coming up here and saying I want a smug window.
19:37:20 And I close this. So the smug window comes up and it's got the. Smug.
19:37:26 Website, but then it has things today that I want to talk about. So I've already pre-populated this.
19:37:33 So one of the things I wanted to make was the gestures that you, oh, this, this overlay that you can use in, and Facebook.
19:37:41 That's one of the things I wanted to show people. And then the, they call it reactions.
19:37:45 Those gestures. So you can have hearts will come pouring out in a nice little. Thing thumbs up we'll give you a thumbs up icon thumbs down balloons rain confetti and oh that's how you do it.
19:38:01 Lasers. There we got the lasers going there. And, and fireworks.
19:38:10 So. You can do that with these gestures. And the other thing I wanted to talk about was the attendance form.
19:38:20 I'm going to talk about that in a second. And what does Sonoma work run on? If you go all the way back, this is the Apple Sonoma page.
19:38:29 You go to all the way down almost to the very bottom. It comes up and with this box here and it says.
19:38:35 IMAX from 2,019 and later. I, Mac Pro from 2,019 and later I'm at pro 2,017.
19:38:43 Max Studio, MacBooker, Mac Mini, MacBook Pro. It has these here.
19:38:51 So if you want. A machine that runs the new Sonoma, and needs to have one of these.
19:39:01 I will tell you, looking at this list, it kind of gave me a dead giveaway. All of these machines either have a T one or T 2 security chip.
19:39:07 Or they have a powerful graphics card. And so that's. But they need for a lot of the features that they're using.
19:39:18 The T one, T 2 security chip is what allows. So, to accept a serial request for the time and give it back to you without actually tailing.
19:39:27 Telling anybody else, asking Apple about it. That's done with the security chip. It sanitizes those things and send you back.
19:39:37 Information and it won't. It won't accept some. Types of requests because it knows those are bad things to do.
19:39:46 So iPad similarly down towards the bottom, it's got a list of the machines that it runs on.
19:39:55 Here basically iPad Pro, 12.9. Inch second generation later, iPad Pro, 10.5 inch, so on so forth, list of the machines it runs on.
19:40:07 And iOS 17 down at the bottom of the page. Yeah.
19:40:16 Has a list of machines that it runs on as well. I forgot to tell you about one thing. I don't know if I can actually display it.
19:40:24 If. If the iPhone is turned on its side. And it will give you.
19:40:32 In a night time mode where it gives you the time and shows anything that might have popped up. While you were sleeping so you can use it as a Don't go out there.
19:40:44 It'll, you can use it as kind of a night time. Clock. And I like this so much that I got a stand to sit beside the bed so I can.
19:40:55 Refer to it at night in case I wake up at 3 30 in the morning and want to know exactly what time it is.
19:41:00 Oh yes, if if the lights are off it turns red so it doesn't ruin your your night vision.
19:41:07 Laura.
19:41:06 I haven't any, work like that on the side. It just wants to be in portrait mode.
19:41:14 I mean, it's so when I turn it sideways, the text is, you know, still, it's not right.
19:41:21 But it shows it shows the clock and everything.
19:41:24 Yeah, it shows the clock and it stays on all night, whether it's plugged in or not.
19:41:30 But it doesn't. It doesn't turn sideways. And I know it's supposed to.
19:41:36 How, when it turns sideways, is it, is it? If it's if it's to if it's not it's got to be fairly vertical in order for that to work.
19:41:46 So if it's at too much of a slant, it won't. Huh. How old is your phone?
19:41:53 Yeah. It's brand new. It's a 15, pro.
19:41:59 Well, see, that's a problem.
19:42:01 Yeah, I went from an 8.
19:42:05 I know it works on an iPhone, 11, a 12, a 13, a 14 because when my daughter and son-in-law were here while we were playing around with these And I know it works with those, so I'm not sure.
19:42:21 Do you have the, Phone set up to auto rotate.
19:42:25 Well, now maybe, maybe not. It does so on music videos, but I don't know about, Not otherwise.
19:42:33 Yeah.
19:42:34 I'm like, I can look into and see.
19:42:37 Anyway, I'm going to put the links for these pages that I, was showing I'm gonna.
19:42:46 Put these in the chat window. So that. You can see what it is I'm talking about.
19:42:54 So, this presenter mode for. Hey, time.
19:43:03 It's going to be here. Oh, that's terrible. I will clean that up.
19:43:16 And. So, You notice that, on that, You are that I posted this one up here that I chopped off some stuff at the end of it.
19:43:34 I'm going to explain that in a second.
19:43:41 This is the requirements for Sonoma. Requirements for iPad OS.
19:43:51 And. The requirements for iOS. 17.
19:44:03 I am gonna go back to. What was it? This first one that had the Ridiculous.
19:44:10 You're When you get these really long, and you want to send them off to someone, what you want to do is Look for.
19:44:23 Well, let me see. First of all, let's see if this works. Yes, it does.
19:44:29 A lot of these things are tagging information and trying to find out. Wow. What kind of machine you're using because it'll give you different kinds of information.
19:44:40 Depending upon what machine you're using. But also sometimes it is like who you are and where you are.
19:44:46 And Apple doesn't do that with their URLs, but a lot of places do. So you'll go to someplace.
19:44:52 And generally speaking, what you want to do is get rid of anything past the question mark. And I will show you what I mean by that by going to the New York Times.
19:45:12 You go to the New York Times.
19:45:26 I. And I know I did that.
19:45:37 New York Times. Continue. And you want to get this. Article.
19:45:43 So I went to Share this article with somebody. I don't care. I'm gonna share this article with somebody and our this was actually fairly It doesn't have a bunch of stuff after it.
19:45:56 But, what happens is that, When I first went to the New York Times from Google.
19:46:15 And I clicked on the New York Times.
19:46:20 Well, now it's not going to do that because I, it's cash, but. If you end up with these really long URLs, look for a question mark.
19:46:30 A question mark is not a legal character in a URL. And so what people do is they use anything after the question mark to send tagging information about you to whoever it's going to so that they New York Times will know that I came to the New York Times from Google.
19:46:46 And it's a way of getting ad revenue. Well, I don't want. To tell people where people came from.
19:46:53 So I will go through and just chop off everything after the question mark in the URL. Anything after that question mark.
19:47:00 Is not necessary. So just Go through and just get rid of everything after the question mark and it'll still work.
19:47:09 And this first one here had a bunch of strangeness in it. And it was Apple trying to find out was I.
19:47:17 Talking to Apple. From a. From a Mac or from something else.
19:47:23 So it, it, added a bunch of stuff to the URL that it really didn't need.
19:47:30 But the other thing I wanted to show you since I mentioned this is this is for this. User group meeting is that I can also stick things in that I frequently forget such as the October sign-in sheet.
19:47:43 So I. Tap the sign in sheet and I'm going to grab the URL. And paste it in down here and ask you that you.
19:47:53 Please go and sign in. Cause it helps me keep track of what we're doing.
19:48:05 But you can have as many profiles as you want. And I want to show you how to set them up.
19:48:10 It's really just super difficult. You go to Safari, go to settings. Go to this thing called profiles.
19:48:20 Say plus and say. News and here you can Use it for doing news or something. And you can pick an icon to show what it is and.
19:48:33 I don't know what color we call news. Since the, New York Times is supposed to be the grey lady.
19:48:42 We'll call it gray. And create profiles. So now we have. Hey, I guess that's not great.
19:48:48 That's brown. Okay, I don't care. So my personal ones got an icon of a person, the smug because I teach things.
19:48:58 It's got a picture of a graduates hat and the news is a briefcase. But now that I have this I can add bookmarks to this.
19:49:07 So.
19:49:12 Washington Post, I say. Add bookmark. And it adds me where I want the bookmark and I say that I want it under news.
19:49:25 And, and now when I go back to that. News profile it'll say
19:49:37 When it's got one tab and the one tab is the Washington Post. And if I go to bookmarks.
19:49:42 News has the Washington Post. So that's part of that profile. The smug profile has other things.
19:49:49 The my favorites which is what I have at home has lots and lots and lots of bookmarks.
19:49:55 But I can separate them depending upon what it is that I'm doing. And it's some.
19:50:01 If you're working, which I'm not doing, it's a great way to separate your work from what you're doing.
19:50:09 But since I do work for my church and I work for various other things, it allows me to segregate that.
19:50:15 Stuff so that I went in doing looking at church stuff. I'm only looking at church stuff and nothing else So it's really quite convenient.
19:50:23 Way to do things and Apple finally did it right. The first Couple tries that they did at this one.
19:50:30 It was not pretty, but this is this is pretty well done.
19:50:34 And do I have any questions about anything that I've talked about?
19:50:42 Lawrence, could you say again how you? Get your iPhone to be like a night.
19:50:50 Clock. I didn't catch that.
19:50:50 Oh. You plug it in and you turn it. Sideways.
19:50:59 Okay.
19:51:00 You turn it sideways. And it will eventually. Change to night mode. I think is what they call it.
19:51:08 And it's not doing that because I keep on moving it. But you just hold it sideways.
19:51:18 Okay.
19:51:14 I leave it plugged in because I don't. I charge my iPhone at night. And so I leave it plugged in and it recharges and it acts as a as a nightstand clock.
19:51:25 Does it have to be clubbed in?
19:51:28 Okay.
19:51:25 But it does not have to be plugged in. I didn't know that, but Mr. Brown says it doesn't, so it doesn't.
19:51:33 I'll take that.
19:51:32 Hmm. I have I have a special little, charger for my. Apple Watch. And that sits there and if you touch it, it tells you what time it is.
19:51:44 The the reason why I like this and reason why I keep it plugged in is that that way I don't have to touch it.
19:51:53 Okay.
19:51:51 I can just look at it and it tells me what time it is. It's it's I'm a light sleeper.
19:52:00 So if I wake up in the middle of the night, I'd like to know. Am I rested now or am I not?
19:52:03 Yeah.
19:52:04 So it's a good way to do it. And in the morning, sometimes when I'm feeling lazy and a call comes up, when it's in this nightstand, but mode, it shows who's calling me.
19:52:17 Oh.
19:52:20 Great.
19:52:22 Yeah.
19:52:18 And I can decide whether or not I want to ignore them. Something that Something that you may not know, you can, when you're sending up your Apple Watch.
19:52:28 You went to pair it with your phone. It's almost impossible not to. It's part of the process.
19:52:34 If you get a phone call and you know you don't want to answer the phone, if you cover your watch, just put your hand over the watch.
19:52:42 It silences the call.
19:52:44 Huh. Great.
19:52:46 You don't have to answer the call and hang up on them or anything. Just put your hand over the watch and it silences the call.
19:52:53 I know. Just.
19:52:52 And if I'm lying down in bread and I don't want to answer the phone, just put my hand over my watch.
19:52:59 Shuts it down. I am very lazy.
19:53:03 Okay.
19:53:04 Just a little update on on the night time clock thing. I plugged it in and it works sideways like it's supposed to.
19:53:13 Oh, okay.
19:53:16 Okay.
19:53:15 So is that with just the new operating system?
19:53:19 Yes, it's part of iOS 17.
19:53:21 Okay. Thank you. And we need to sign in, but we don't know how.
19:53:28 Oh, I stuck the URL in the, chat on the side and if you look at the last one I posted which says docs google calm if you just click on it it brings up this form that's on front of me and you just fill in the, add your email.
19:53:45 Your first and last name. And the reason why I say first and last name is that I've had several people just say Mike or.
19:53:53 Or Susan and that doesn't tell me who you are. So put in your first and last name and then check the box.
19:54:01 Meeting this is.
19:54:03 Okay, so, but that's your. What's your computer we're looking at?
19:54:08 That's my computer, but if you click on this URL over here. It'll bring it up on your computer.
19:54:16 Where is that URL?
19:54:16 Okay. It's in the chat window.
19:54:20 In the chat window.
19:54:21 Yes, down at the bottom of the.
19:54:23 I see it. Okay, then it just says to everyone.
19:54:27 We say yes, but I posted it earlier and it might be that I need to post it again for you because they scroll off.
19:54:33 So.
19:54:33 Okay.
19:54:39 Well, I can write you a message.
19:54:39 Okay. No, it should be there now.
19:54:49 Okay.
19:54:49 And you just click on it and it'll pop up the form.
19:54:54 Hmm.
19:54:54 Any other questions? I covered a lot of different things. So. I may not know the answer, but I'll make something up.
19:55:04 Okay. I have a question. I put something in the chat earlier, but it doesn't seem it didn't trigger a Red dot on my chat window and it didn't seem to go through to any of you.
19:55:18 So I'm not sure why.
19:55:19 No, I'm not seeing the form either.
19:55:23 Do you have this chat window open?
19:55:26 I have it open, yes.
19:55:25 I can see yours. Okay, you went to okay chat. And then I just see to everyone.
19:55:32 So if you scroll.
19:55:34 You click on document Google, you don't pull it up.
19:55:38 Okay.
19:55:38 There should be a message about the chat saying to everyone is at the bottom and above that should be the message that I just sent, which is.
19:55:47 A URL and it should open this window. In this form.
19:55:50 No. No.
19:55:57 Oh, well, okay.
19:55:55 I got it just fine.
19:56:01 Thank you.
19:56:05 Okay, I've totally lost the meeting.
19:56:09 You lost the meeting. I can hear you.
19:56:11 Yeah, I know, but I can't see.
19:56:15 Oh, look under chat.
19:56:18 It's gone. Alright, I'm the person, no, okay.
19:56:27 Click on your Zoom icon on your, that should bring it up, I would think.
19:56:30 I think, yeah, I think she might have lost the zoom window.
19:56:35 Yeah, she lost the zoom window.
19:56:25 Hmm. Okay. I'm launch meeting so I don't wanna do that.
19:56:39 Yeah.
19:56:40 Yeah, click on zoom on the zoom.
19:56:45 Yeah, down in your, your, Launch bar down at the bottom of the screen if you just click on zoom it should bring it up
19:56:52 Okay. Got it. But am I still looking at your window?
19:56:56 You should be.
19:56:58 Okay. So, okay, I see to everyone. I can still see the. The one that you posted.
19:57:11 It's and it just says to everyone.
19:57:15 Yeah, and it should say. It should say below it says HTTPS docs google.com blah blah blah and if you click on that that should bring up a browser.
19:57:26 Window and this page.
19:57:28 Facetime video effects. I don't think I want to do that.
19:57:31 Now those are earlier up.
19:57:33 Yeah.
19:57:37 Okay.
19:57:37 I posted 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Links.
19:57:44 Okay. Docs Google. Okay.
19:57:55 No, went to Apple Sonoma. Okay. That's right.
19:58:03 It should appear at the bottom of the list.
19:58:06 Oh, new message, okay.
19:58:11 There we go. Got it. Thank you. Sorry, that took so long.
19:58:13 Okay. What do we want to do next time?
19:58:22 Something I would like to do at some point is browsers. Because there are lots of different browsers out there and they have their strengths and weaknesses.
19:58:31 One of the good news bad news about browsers in order to demonstrate browsers I have to use bandwidth.
19:58:37 And I'm using the bandwidth to actually send the Zoom video out to you. Which means that it may not work particularly well, but.
19:58:45 At some point I would like to talk about browsers and I would like someday to show people how I created the smug website.
19:58:56 It's a piece of software called WordPress which is available to anybody. It's web-based, so you go to a particular website and you can create a website.
19:59:08 Of your own. So yes.
19:59:11 Hey, Lawrence. You mentioned earlier that you might want to do, A, a little talk on pass keys.
19:59:21 Yes. Yes.
19:59:24 That might be a good top, but I don't know how you can demonstrate past keys.
19:59:29 Well, I can use my fake user to demonstrate the past keys. My problem is that I'm having difficulty coming up with.
19:59:37 A something that I can really demonstrate because a lot of this is invisible if you're using pass keys.
19:59:45 So it works and as far as you looking at it and a view session session, you just say, okay, so you want someplace.
19:59:53 And it wouldn't tell you. It wouldn't explain how the magic actually happens. So this is one of those cases where the musician wants to hide the magic.
20:00:04 I went to show how the magic happens and and trying to
19:59:59 Yeah. Well, with my new M 2 laptop. Macwood Pro. It has a thumb print button in the power button.
20:00:25 Yes.
20:00:18 And a lot of times it'll say, Just touch your thumb or put in your password and it's much easier to touch my thumb and type in a password.
20:00:31 Is that a pass key or?
20:00:29 That's, that's true. But again, No, no, that's an encrypted.
20:00:36 That's an encrypted credential. A pass key is a is a little bit, different.
20:00:43 Essentially it's a pass key to your computer, but it's not a pass key.
20:00:50 Hmm.
20:00:47 To something else that's actually something else. When you when you press your thumb. And the thumb sends a pass key to a website.
20:00:57 It's not sending your fingerprint. It's it's sending a piece of code that says yes you really are who you are.
20:01:10 Okay.
20:01:05 So trying to explain how something that people can't see works. there's, some cognitive issues I need to overcome here.
20:01:16 I haven't quite figured out how to do it.
20:01:18 Unless you took a movie of Cat Kathleen doing it.
20:01:25 No.
20:01:25 It's something I need to think through. Because I've tried I thought of several things and they say no that's not gonna work it's it has to be something that
20:01:39 Right.
20:01:36 That you can see a cause and effect. I used to teach, I used to teach computer, security to people in the government.
20:01:44 And that was one of the hardest things to do this. Even when I was talking to IT professionals.
20:01:50 To show them how something was working when there was no when there was nothing visible to them that it was a computer talking to another computer.
20:02:02 It was a, it was a challenge. And, and even when that the day before I retired.
20:02:10 This woman asked me to come over to her computer. And because you said something wasn't working in and they said, what do you want me to do?
20:02:22 Yeah.
20:02:18 And she says, just stand there, it'll work when you're beside me. So she worked for a science agency, but she believed in sympathetic magic that if I was there, just the magic alone would happen.
20:02:31 And she tried to do it. Had she failed that a dozen times and it and it worked. And was I responsible?
20:02:47 Right.
20:02:38 No, I wasn't. But. Trying to Trying to show what was really happening was it's it's it's a challenge which is one reason why people insist on having stupid, you know, 8 letter passwords that they reuse for everything.
20:02:54 They say, oh, this is just too hard. And that's why. The United States is responsible for 99% of the credit card fraud in the entire world.
20:03:08 Wow.
20:03:08 Because we are still the only country in the world where you hand somebody a credit card and they accept it.
20:03:16 Anywhere in Europe you hand him a credit card and you also have to provide a PIN. There has to be that secondary authentication.
20:03:25 In the United States, nope, steal somebody's credit card, go into go into Starbucks and you can buy yourself copy.
20:03:31 There's no verification that you're who you say you are. The only place in town that verifies who you are, aside from the banks, is Costco.
20:03:41 And that's because you're picture is on the back of the credit card. Not that they look at it, but if they wanted to, they could verify.
20:03:55 So.
20:03:49 So it's Trying to explain computer security is is a challenge. I'm not saying I'm opposed, I just haven't figured out out.
20:04:03 Yes.
20:03:59 The book about, the next operating system, Sonoma, is that a book and book form or is it a download?
20:04:08 It's a downloadable book, but you can print it, but, there's no printed books on it because, and there may not be.
20:04:20 I wanted to tell you the dirty secret about a lot of printed books. Well, let me, before I do that, since I happen to be showing my screen, I want to show you something.
20:04:28 I'm going to, if I can see the icon, here it is. This is my
20:04:39 Apple Books and I'm going to move this thing out of the way. And, search for.
20:04:48 So, There we go. This is the Apple ebook on Seduma through, from, take control press.
20:04:58 And it's got a nice table of contents and You've got an index in the back and it shows you.
20:05:07 After there's some plimity things telling you how it works tells you how to check what operating system you have and what it runs on and all that kind of stuff.
20:05:16 And then it takes you through step by step how to upgrade and a bunch of other stuff. And at the back of it, it's even got an index.
20:05:23 The nice thing about this about these electronic books is that by the way I have 7 or 8,000 electronic books.
20:05:34 . So It helps if I spell correctly.
20:05:42 Control books and we go here. And you. Find what you want to know.
20:05:52 You went this book on Sonoma.
20:05:55 And takes you here. Click on this, it tells you what the book is for. It comes in 2 different flavors.
20:06:04 You can, you can download a sample if you want, but comes in 2 different flavors. If you buy it, you have a choice of either a PDF.
20:06:11 Or, a, EPUB. EPUB is what Apple Books uses.
20:06:19 All the all Apple books are an EPUB format and the nice thing about Apple Books is that, well, never mind.
20:06:26 The Apple books are much better than PDFs. But if you decide that you want to book, you say you add it to the cart.
20:06:34 And then you go and pay for it. And go to your card. And pay for it and then it downloads immediately to you.
20:06:48 So you can go shopping for the book. You can read the table contents and all the stuff you would in a book to store and then download the book and start reading immediately.
20:06:57 You don't have to wait for Amazon to show it to you. Now, why don't they?
20:07:01 Print computer books. If you go to Amazon right now.
20:07:12 And you type in.
20:07:17 Mac OS Sonoma. And look at all the books that they have, you'll see that.
20:07:24 This one here is 30 bucks, which is a lot more. It's terrible book. Mac OS, Sonoma for seniors, terrible book.
20:07:33 This one here. Is, you notice when it was produced, it says it was produced on October 12.
20:07:41 This is something that. That Amazon has, we can make instant, books. Out but these people they're really not very good books at all.
20:07:51 And the ones that I really hate are these for Dummies books. You should never think that you can't do something on a computer because you're a dummy.
20:07:59 And so why Wiley ever came up with this for Demi series, I really cannot stand their books.
20:08:06 Because they start insulting the user right off the start. But you can you can find the book you want on take control notebooks, download it immediately.
20:08:15 Don't have to wait for Amazon to deliver it and you're up and running and it runs.
20:08:18 Right out of. Out of ibooks on your on your Mac so you can read the book while you're doing things at the same time.
20:08:27 Works and the and these books work on the iPhone and the iPad just as well as they do on the Mac.
20:08:35 So you can actually read it off your phone and play with it on your computer at the same time. Really, really prefer these 2.
20:08:45 There's usually the. Very good. Oh, I was just. You go ahead.
20:08:42 Physical books for computer books. When when Yeah, go ahead. When? When I left when, at when Mac when Apple went app when Microsoft came up with a new version of office about 10 years ago.
20:09:06 I distributed electronically to everybody and then people said, oh, you can come and take the documentation away.
20:09:12 We had 1,200 copies of Microsoft Office that we bought. When I went and collected the documentation, the documentation came in a box that was a foot and a half long.
20:09:24 And wait a time. Of the 1,200 sets that I collected, 1,150 were still in the shrink rat.
20:09:33 Oh.
20:09:34 No, nobody read them. The nice thing about an electronic book is you can use the search function to go to the part that you're interested in.
20:09:44 You don't have to flip through all these pages trying to find what you want. So For computer documentation, they're much, much better than paper.
20:09:52 If you want to read a novel, novels on paper are still good, but Computer documentation electron electronically is much, much better.
20:10:01 Okay.
20:10:02 And we still haven't decided what we're doing next month. And half the people have run away.
20:10:08 So ideas.
20:10:08 Well, I have a question. It's a kind of personal for you. Are you going to upgrade to the new phone?
20:10:13 I mean, we spent a lot of time happily about the new. System for the iPhone, the new.
20:10:21 Yes.
20:10:22 Yeah, and I'm wondering if you're going to get the 15.
20:10:31 Oh, okay.
20:10:28 This is an iPhone. 15 pro max. I'm not going to reveal any secrets, but Kathleen insisted I get it and it arrived just before my birthday earlier this week.
20:10:42 Okay. Alright.
20:10:46 I take a lot of pictures and I I can't begin to tell you that the the difference between the 2 X.
20:10:55 Magnification that I have a telephoto that I had with my old iPhone and this Fivex is startling.
20:11:02 It's not like the, you know, 200 that I have on my professional camera, but.
20:11:07 For just I was taking photographs of my granddaughter riding a horse. And I could take a picture of my granddaughter.
20:11:16 And the entire horse and I could take a picture of just her face and I didn't even have to move.
20:11:22 I could take it. With the same phone just by flipping through the the, telephoto settings.
20:11:28 And it was, it was glorious. Plus it was raining heavily. And the phone didn't care, whereas my professional phone I would I really don't wanna take it out in the ring.
20:11:41 And my daughter's from Britain. My granddaughter's from Britain, so the fact that it was raining didn't slow down at all.
20:11:48 And she decided she really likes horses. We started our out on a pony and then we moved her to this full size horse.
20:11:56 And later on they were saying, do you like the pony? No, the pony was trash.
20:12:01 That's not really what she said, but when she when she felt the full size horse she thought that was way better than the pony.
20:12:08 I don't know why because I'm not 6 but She had a blast. And this is the new phone and it's really quite cool.
20:12:18 One thing that's amazing is the size of the screen is the same as the as the size of the screen on the 13 in terms of physical size, but the phone itself is smaller.
20:12:31 Really quite because they eat the screen goes much closer to the edge. It's, it's really.
20:12:37 Bye, quite spiffy.
20:12:42 What are we doing next week? Next month.
20:12:46 I vote for browsers like you mentioned.
20:12:50 Second, the vote.
20:12:52 That sounds good.
20:12:54 Okay. Alright, we'll give that a shot.
20:12:54 All third fourth it. Okay.
20:12:59 Okay.
20:13:00 Maybe the difference between a browser and what a search engine is like duck. Go. I don't know if that's a browser or if it's just a search engine.
20:13:08 It's both.
20:13:09 Yeah, I heard it's a new browser. That's available in the Apple Store.
20:13:11 Yeah. Yeah, it's both. I will warn you that I know a great deal about browsers because I built.
20:13:21 Roughly 500 websites. So. I know a lot about browsers, but. If you're willing to put up with me, I'm willing to cover it.
20:13:30 Okay, alright, thank you.
20:13:34 And anything else before we go?
20:13:38 Thank you.
20:13:39 Yeah, have a good night Lawrence. Thank you again.
20:13:42 Yep, thank you.
20:13:41 Thank you. Alright, good night.