Apple will host an “Apple Event” on Tuesday, September 12, at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. As usual, Apple has not said a thing about what will be discussed, aside from providing a cool graphic:
Apple Event, Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 10 a.m. PT.
If they follow past practice, they will announce one or more iPhones, possibly a new Apple Watch or two, announce the release of iOS 17, and possibly the release of macOS 14 Sonoma.
Traditionally, they have not announced new computers in the fall, and on occasion, they have announced an iPad. Whatever they do, we will talk about it at the September SMUG meeting on Tuesday, September 19, 2023..
Apple released great gobs of updates to various Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, and Apple Watch operating systems on July 24, 2023. If you haven’t updated yet, you should; the notices below are set out on Apple’s Security Announce mailing list (subscribe for free; go to https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/security-announce/ ).
Note: if you are not running the current version of any Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, or Apple Watch operating system, but your device supports the current version, update immediately. The patches to older operating systems are not comprehensive, and also do not provide the range of features and enhancements of the current operating system. If you are reluctant to update because of bandwidth limitations, invite yourself over to an organization or neighbor that has more bandwidth, or consider a trip to one of the Apple stores in Seattle or Tacoma.
You should be impressed with the great number of things that were fixed. Even if you don’t understand the technical details, the list of people who worked on finding the vulnerabilities and the scope of the patches is impressive.
Safari 16.6
Note: the new updated Safari should be bundled with the relevant version of macOS, tvOS, iOS, etc., and need not be updated separately.
APPLE-SA-2023-07-24-1 Safari 16.6
Safari 16.6 addresses the following issues.
Information about the security content is also available at
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213847.
Apple maintains a Security Updates page at
https://support.apple.com/HT201222 which lists recent
software updates with security advisories.
WebKit
Available for: macOS Big Sur and macOS Monterey
Impact: A website may be able to bypass Same Origin Policy
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256549
CVE-2023-38572: Narendra Bhati (twitter.com/imnarendrabhati) of Suma
Soft Pvt. Ltd, Pune - India
WebKit
Available for: macOS Big Sur and macOS Monterey
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256865
CVE-2023-38594: Yuhao Hu
WebKit Bugzilla: 256573
CVE-2023-38595: an anonymous researcher, Jiming Wang, and Jikai Ren
WebKit Bugzilla: 257387
CVE-2023-38600: Anonymous working with Trend Micro Zero Day Initiative
WebKit
Available for: macOS Big Sur and macOS Monterey
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
WebKit Bugzilla: 258058
CVE-2023-38611: Francisco Alonso (@revskills)
WebKit Process Model
Available for: macOS Big Sur and macOS Monterey
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 258100
CVE-2023-38597: 이준성(Junsung Lee) of Cross Republic
WebKit Web Inspector
Available for: macOS Big Sur and macOS Monterey
Impact: Processing web content may disclose sensitive information
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256932
CVE-2023-38133: YeongHyeon Choi (@hyeon101010)
Additional recognition
WebRTC
We would like to acknowledge an anonymous researcher for their
assistance.
Safari 16.6 may be obtained from the Mac App Store.
All information is also posted on the Apple Security Updates
web site: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222.
iOS 16.6, iPad OS 16.6 (and HomePod 16.6)
APPLE-SA-2023-07-24-2 iOS 16.6 and iPadOS 16.6
iOS 16.6 and iPadOS 16.6 addresses the following issues.
Information about the security content is also available at
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213841.
Apple maintains a Security Updates page at
https://support.apple.com/HT201222 which lists recent
software updates with security advisories.
Apple Neural Engine
Available for devices with Apple Neural Engine: iPhone 8 and later, iPad
Pro (3rd generation) and later, iPad Air (3rd generation) and later, and
iPad mini (5th generation)
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-38136: Mohamed GHANNAM (@_simo36)
CVE-2023-38580: Mohamed GHANNAM (@_simo36)
Find My
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved restrictions.
CVE-2023-32416: Wojciech Regula of SecuRing (wojciechregula.blog)
Kernel
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-32734: Pan ZhenPeng (@Peterpan0927) of STAR Labs SG Pte. Ltd.
CVE-2023-32441: Peter Nguyễn Vũ Hoàng (@peternguyen14) of STAR Labs SG
Pte. Ltd.
CVE-2023-38261: an anonymous researcher
CVE-2023-38424: Certik Skyfall Team
CVE-2023-38425: Certik Skyfall Team
Kernel
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: An app may be able to modify sensitive kernel state. Apple is
aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited
against versions of iOS released before iOS 15.7.1.
Description: This issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-38606: Valentin Pashkov, Mikhail Vinogradov, Georgy Kucherin
(@kucher1n), Leonid Bezvershenko (@bzvr_), and Boris Larin (@oct0xor) of
Kaspersky
Kernel
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
CVE-2023-32381: an anonymous researcher
CVE-2023-32433: Zweig of Kunlun Lab
CVE-2023-35993: Kaitao Xie and Xiaolong Bai of Alibaba Group
Kernel
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: A user may be able to elevate privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38410: an anonymous researcher
Kernel
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: A remote user may be able to cause a denial-of-service
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38603: Zweig of Kunlun Lab
libxpc
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: An app may be able to gain root privileges
Description: A path handling issue was addressed with improved
validation.
CVE-2023-38565: Zhipeng Huo (@R3dF09) of Tencent Security Xuanwu Lab
(xlab.tencent.com)
libxpc
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: An app may be able to cause a denial-of-service
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38593: Noah Roskin-Frazee
NSURLSession
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: An app may be able to break out of its sandbox
Description: The issue was addressed with improvements to the file
handling protocol.
CVE-2023-32437: Thijs Alkemade from Computest Sector 7
WebKit
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: A website may be able to bypass Same Origin Policy
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256549
CVE-2023-38572: Narendra Bhati (twitter.com/imnarendrabhati) of Suma
Soft Pvt. Ltd, Pune - India
WebKit
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256865
CVE-2023-38594: Yuhao Hu
WebKit Bugzilla: 256573
CVE-2023-38595: an anonymous researcher, Jiming Wang, and Jikai Ren
WebKit Bugzilla: 257387
CVE-2023-38600: Anonymous working with Trend Micro Zero Day Initiative
WebKit
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
WebKit Bugzilla: 258058
CVE-2023-38611: Francisco Alonso (@revskills)
WebKit
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution.
Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively
exploited.
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 259231
CVE-2023-37450: an anonymous researcher
This issue was first addressed in Rapid Security Response iOS 16.5.1 (c)
and iPadOS 16.5.1 (c).
WebKit Process Model
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 258100
CVE-2023-38597: 이준성(Junsung Lee) of Cross Republic
WebKit Web Inspector
Available for: iPhone 8 and later, iPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd
generation and later, iPad 5th generation and later, and iPad mini 5th
generation and later
Impact: Processing web content may disclose sensitive information
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256932
CVE-2023-38133: YeongHyeon Choi (@hyeon101010)
Additional recognition
Mail
We would like to acknowledge Parvez Anwar for their assistance.
WebRTC
We would like to acknowledge an anonymous researcher for their
assistance.
This update is available through iTunes and Software Update on your
iOS device, and will not appear in your computer's Software Update
application, or in the Apple Downloads site. Make sure you have an
Internet connection and have installed the latest version of iTunes
from https://www.apple.com/itunes/ iTunes and Software Update on the
device will automatically check Apple's update server on its weekly
schedule. When an update is detected, it is downloaded and the option
to be installed is presented to the user when the iOS device is
docked. We recommend applying the update immediately if possible.
Selecting Don't Install will present the option the next time you
connect your iOS device. The automatic update process may take up to
a week depending on the day that iTunes or the device checks for
updates. You may manually obtain the update via the Check for Updates
button within iTunes, or the Software Update on your device. To
check that the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad has been updated: *
Navigate to Settings * Select General * Select About. The version
after applying this update will be "iOS 16.6 and iPadOS 16.6".
All information is also posted on the Apple Security Updates
web site: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222.
macOS Ventura 13.5
APPLE-SA-2023-07-24-4 macOS Ventura 13.5
macOS Ventura 13.5 addresses the following issues.
Information about the security content is also available at
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213843.
Apple maintains a Security Updates page at
https://support.apple.com/HT201222 which lists recent
software updates with security advisories.
Apple Neural Engine
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-38580: Mohamed GHANNAM (@_simo36)
AppleMobileFileIntegrity
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to determine a user’s current location
Description: A downgrade issue affecting Intel-based Mac computers was
addressed with additional code-signing restrictions.
CVE-2023-36862: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
AppSandbox
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A sandboxed process may be able to circumvent sandbox
restrictions
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved restrictions.
CVE-2023-32364: Gergely Kalman (@gergely_kalman)
Assets
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: This issue was addressed with improved data protection.
CVE-2023-35983: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
curl
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Multiple issues in curl
Description: Multiple issues were addressed by updating curl.
CVE-2023-28319
CVE-2023-28320
CVE-2023-28321
CVE-2023-28322
Find My
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved restrictions.
CVE-2023-32416: Wojciech Regula of SecuRing (wojciechregula.blog)
Grapher
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing a file may lead to unexpected app termination or
arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32418: Bool of YunShangHuaAn(云上华安)
CVE-2023-36854: Bool of YunShangHuaAn(云上华安)
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-32734: Pan ZhenPeng (@Peterpan0927) of STAR Labs SG Pte. Ltd.
CVE-2023-32441: Peter Nguyễn Vũ Hoàng (@peternguyen14) of STAR Labs SG
Pte. Ltd.
CVE-2023-38261: an anonymous researcher
CVE-2023-38424: Certik Skyfall Team
CVE-2023-38425: Certik Skyfall Team
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
CVE-2023-32381: an anonymous researcher
CVE-2023-32433: Zweig of Kunlun Lab
CVE-2023-35993: Kaitao Xie and Xiaolong Bai of Alibaba Group
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A user may be able to elevate privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38410: an anonymous researcher
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify sensitive kernel state. Apple is
aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited
against versions of iOS released before iOS 15.7.1.
Description: This issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-38606: Valentin Pashkov, Mikhail Vinogradov, Georgy Kucherin
(@kucher1n), Leonid Bezvershenko (@bzvr_), and Boris Larin (@oct0xor) of
Kaspersky
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A remote user may be able to cause a denial-of-service
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38603: Zweig of Kunlun Lab
libxpc
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to gain root privileges
Description: A path handling issue was addressed with improved
validation.
CVE-2023-38565: Zhipeng Huo (@R3dF09) of Tencent Security Xuanwu Lab
(xlab.tencent.com)
libxpc
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to cause a denial-of-service
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38593: Noah Roskin-Frazee
Model I/O
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing a 3D model may result in disclosure of process memory
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38258: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
CVE-2023-38421: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
OpenLDAP
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A remote user may be able to cause a denial-of-service
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-2953: Sandipan Roy
PackageKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to access user-sensitive data
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved restrictions.
CVE-2023-38259: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
PackageKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38564: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
PackageKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: A permissions issue was addressed with additional
restrictions.
CVE-2023-38602: Arsenii Kostromin (0x3c3e)
Shortcuts
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A shortcut may be able to modify sensitive Shortcuts app
settings
Description: An access issue was addressed with improved access
restrictions.
CVE-2023-32442: an anonymous researcher
sips
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing a file may lead to a denial-of-service or potentially
disclose memory contents
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
CVE-2023-32443: David Hoyt of Hoyt LLC
SystemMigration
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to bypass Privacy preferences
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32429: Wenchao Li and Xiaolong Bai of Hangzhou Orange Shield
Information Technology Co., Ltd.
Voice Memos
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to access user-sensitive data
Description: The issue was addressed with additional permissions checks.
CVE-2023-38608: Yiğit Can YILMAZ (@yilmazcanyigit), Kirin (@Pwnrin), and
Yishu Wang
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A website may be able to bypass Same Origin Policy
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256549
CVE-2023-38572: Narendra Bhati (twitter.com/imnarendrabhati) of Suma
Soft Pvt. Ltd, Pune - India
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256865
CVE-2023-38594: Yuhao Hu
WebKit Bugzilla: 256573
CVE-2023-38595: an anonymous researcher, Jiming Wang, Jikai Ren
WebKit Bugzilla: 257387
CVE-2023-38600: Anonymous working with Trend Micro Zero Day Initiative
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
WebKit Bugzilla: 258058
CVE-2023-38611: Francisco Alonso (@revskills)
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution.
Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively
exploited.
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 259231
CVE-2023-37450: an anonymous researcher
This issue was first addressed in Rapid Security Response macOS Ventura
13.4.1 (c).
WebKit Process Model
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 258100
CVE-2023-38597: 이준성(Junsung Lee) of Cross Republic
WebKit Web Inspector
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may disclose sensitive information
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256932
CVE-2023-38133: YeongHyeon Choi (@hyeon101010)
Additional recognition
WebRTC
We would like to acknowledge an anonymous researcher for their
assistance.
macOS Ventura 13.5 may be obtained from the Mac App Store or Apple's
Software Downloads web site: https://support.apple.com/downloads/
All information is also posted on the Apple Security Updates
web site: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222.
macOS Monterey 12.6.8
macOS Monterey 12.6.8 addresses the following issues.
Information about the security content is also available at
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213844.
Apple maintains a Security Updates page at
https://support.apple.com/HT201222 which lists recent
software updates with security advisories.
Assets
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: This issue was addressed with improved data protection.
CVE-2023-35983: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
curl
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: Multiple issues in curl
Description: Multiple issues were addressed by updating curl.
CVE-2023-28319
CVE-2023-28320
CVE-2023-28321
CVE-2023-28322
Find My
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved restrictions.
CVE-2023-32416: Wojciech Regula of SecuRing (wojciechregula.blog)
Grapher
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: Processing a file may lead to unexpected app termination or
arbitrary code execution
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-36854: Bool of YunShangHuaAn(云上华安)
CVE-2023-32418: Bool of YunShangHuaAn(云上华安)
Kernel
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
CVE-2023-32381: an anonymous researcher
CVE-2023-32433: Zweig of Kunlun Lab
CVE-2023-35993: Kaitao Xie and Xiaolong Bai of Alibaba Group
Kernel
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to modify sensitive kernel state. Apple is
aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited
against versions of iOS released before iOS 15.7.1.
Description: This issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-38606: Valentin Pashkov, Mikhail Vinogradov, Georgy Kucherin
(@kucher1n), Leonid Bezvershenko (@bzvr_), and Boris Larin (@oct0xor) of
Kaspersky
Kernel
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-32441: Peter Nguyễn Vũ Hoàng (@peternguyen14) of STAR Labs SG
Pte. Ltd.
libxpc
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to gain root privileges
Description: A path handling issue was addressed with improved
validation.
CVE-2023-38565: Zhipeng Huo (@R3dF09) of Tencent Security Xuanwu Lab
(xlab.tencent.com)
libxpc
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to cause a denial-of-service
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38593: Noah Roskin-Frazee
Model I/O
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: Processing a 3D model may result in disclosure of process memory
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-38421: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
CVE-2023-38258: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
OpenLDAP
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: A remote user may be able to cause a denial-of-service
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-2953: Sandipan Roy
PackageKit
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to access user-sensitive data
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved restrictions.
CVE-2023-38259: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
PackageKit
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: A permissions issue was addressed with additional
restrictions.
CVE-2023-38602: Arsenii Kostromin (0x3c3e)
Shortcuts
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: A shortcut may be able to modify sensitive Shortcuts app
settings
Description: An access issue was addressed with improved access
restrictions.
CVE-2023-32442: an anonymous researcher
sips
Available for: macOS Monterey
Impact: Processing a file may lead to a denial-of-service or potentially
disclose memory contents
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
CVE-2023-32443: David Hoyt of Hoyt LLC
Additional recognition
Mail
We would like to acknowledge Parvez Anwar for their assistance.
macOS Monterey 12.6.8 may be obtained from the Mac App Store or
Apple's Software Downloads web site:
https://support.apple.com/downloads/
All information is also posted on the Apple Security Updates
web site: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222.
APPLE-SA-2023-07-24-7 tvOS 16.6
tvOS 16.6 addresses the following issues.
Information about the security content is also available at
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213846.
Apple maintains a Security Updates page at
https://support.apple.com/HT201222 which lists recent
software updates with security advisories.
Kernel
Available for: Apple TV 4K (all models) and Apple TV HD
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: The issue was addressed with improved memory handling.
CVE-2023-32734: Pan ZhenPeng (@Peterpan0927) of STAR Labs SG Pte. Ltd.
CVE-2023-32441: Peter Nguyễn Vũ Hoàng (@peternguyen14) of STAR Labs SG
Pte. Ltd.
Kernel
Available for: Apple TV 4K (all models) and Apple TV HD
Impact: An app may be able to modify sensitive kernel state. Apple is
aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited
against versions of iOS released before iOS 15.7.1.
Description: This issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-38606: Valentin Pashkov, Mikhail Vinogradov, Georgy Kucherin
(@kucher1n), Leonid Bezvershenko (@bzvr_), and Boris Larin (@oct0xor) of
Kaspersky
Kernel
Available for: Apple TV 4K (all models) and Apple TV HD
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
CVE-2023-32381: an anonymous researcher
CVE-2023-32433: Zweig of Kunlun Lab
CVE-2023-35993: Kaitao Xie and Xiaolong Bai of Alibaba Group
WebKit
Available for: Apple TV 4K (all models) and Apple TV HD
Impact: A website may be able to bypass Same Origin Policy
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 256549
CVE-2023-38572: Narendra Bhati (twitter.com/imnarendrabhati) of Suma
Soft Pvt. Ltd, Pune - India
WebKit
Available for: Apple TV 4K (all models) and Apple TV HD
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There were multiple topics for our June 20 meeting, each of which could have encompassed a meeting by themselves.
Slides for the meeting
Click on the first slide, then use the arrow keys on the side to move forward or backward. A video recording of the meeting and a transcript of closed captioning follows.
Video recording of the June meeting. Click on the YouTube logo for a larger view:
Video recording of the June 20, 2023 SMUG meeting.
The transcript of the closed captioning starts around 7 p.m., roughly a half hour after the video starts. Note that YouTube generates the closed captioning using voice recognition, and it often makes interesting errors.
19:01:29 Oops!
19:01:37 No, I did not make a sign in sheet Kathleen just asked me, do you have a sign in sheet?
19:01:42 Of course I forgot to make it signature.
19:01:47 Yes.
19:01:46 I have a question. It's I had a hard time signing in going to the link, and I hit.
19:01:56 Go with zoom and everything, but it didn't seem to want to go through.
19:02:04 You should have just been able to click on the link in it. Take you there!
19:02:08 No, and then it said, Allow with zoom! And then it said, and it just spin.
19:02:15 And so I went back and stopped that. And when again?
19:02:19 Yeah, I, that's probably something local with your machine just as an Fy to people before you get on any kind of Zoom Meeting or any kind of facetime meeting or something.
19:02:32 There are 2 things you should do well with Zoom. You should check to make sure you have the current version, and that's why, when I send out the announcements I usually tell you what the current version is.
19:02:43 And the second thing you should do is probably readboot your machine.
19:02:47 A lot of people throughout the day. They launch all kinds of things, and when, especially when you're streaming those other things that are open are using the same kind of resources that zoom uses.
19:03:01 Hey? Thank you.
19:02:58 Zoom is not the world's best written application, and so if you reboot your machine, that forces everything to start over again, it's like a brand new world, and then you can start your Zoom Meeting and probably give you fewer problems, so this this one woman while I was watching she launched a
19:03:18 zooms on her laptop, she launched this zoom, meeting.
19:03:20 I say, wait! Wait! Wait! What was that? She had?
19:03:23 19 applications. Open was a laptop, and when she brought it to into the church, which is where I saw her, she just shut down her laptop at home, but she didn't turn it off she just shut the lid brought it in.
19:03:38 So all these things that she had opened they'd been open for probably a week or more.
19:03:42 So just as an fy. If you reboot the machine, it should respond more quickly.
19:03:47 Thank you.
19:03:49 Anything from our President? Do we have our President? I don't see her.
19:03:58 Oh, there you are!
19:03:57 But I'm here. Oh, welcome, everybody!
19:04:03 I don't see anybody new. So I actually don't.
19:04:08 Well, I have a question. Wanted to know how the meeting went.
19:04:12 I'm sorry. Unfortunately, I missed it. We had friends that were moving, and then another set of friends that were up here on vacation.
19:04:19 That was in the makes for a while, but the one at the church.
19:04:25 How was the turnout, or do you know how many people?
19:04:26 Kathleen, did we have a dozen, 13?
19:04:30 We had 13 people, and they were a mixture of mac and windows in as much as 2 people had windows, machines.
19:04:39 The rest of them were Max, but I covered both, and several people afterwards said that they were surprised that my presentation talked about windows and my presentation, talking about Mac.
19:04:51 Weren't that different? And that's because when it comes to elementary troubleshooting they aren't that the individual techniques are are different.
19:05:01 But the general principles on what you're checking aren't that different?
19:05:07 So, but everyone seemed to be happy. I did have some.
19:05:12 I did have, as I expected, a lot of interesting questions afterwards.
19:05:18 From people that had had problems for a long time, and they were surprised that things that they were doing on a daily basis.
19:05:29 We're actually causing the problems like this one woman.
19:05:34 She? She! She had a risk, rest, rest, and the risk.
19:05:43 Rest was pushing against the option key on her computer.
19:05:48 So when she, if it pushes against the option key, when you type things in the Mac changes what you're typing.
19:05:55 And she said, They'll she'll stop doing that because she didn't know that would happen.
19:06:01 But I thought it II thought it went well.
19:06:04 What's the majority from outside of our user group?
19:06:12 I think about little bit more than half were we were people on the smug mailing list, but there are several people that IA couple of people, were from church from that church, and couple people. One person came from port towns, and one person came from Portland Angeles.
19:06:35 And I didn't really pull them. There might have been more, but at least those 2 people identified them as being from Port towns and Port Angeles.
19:06:41 Huh!
19:06:42 So I thought it went. I thought it went well, and.
19:06:44 Oh, that's great! One more thing before I forget.
19:06:49 I came by this afternoon, and I dropped the check off in your mailbox.
19:06:52 I don't know what time you guys normally get the mail, but I just I didn't ring the doorbell. I just popped it in your mailbox.
19:06:59 Okay, yeah, we'll take a look.
19:07:03 So with that I will turn it over to my mom and let her go over the numbers.
19:07:09 Since that deduction you got reimbursed that way.
19:07:12 Okay.
19:07:16 Okay. Well, we didn't get any deposits in this month, or the last couple of months.
19:07:25 We had that expense to check that. So green is dropped off at your place, Lawrence.
19:07:32 So that gave it was $163 and 26 cents.
19:07:36 Expense for the Zoom subscription for another year.
19:07:41 Yeah. And that was that brings the balance down now to $1,965 and 64 cents.
19:07:51 One comment people had about the meeting at the church is that they thought the screens in the church were up too high, and it hurt their neck.
19:08:02 Hmm!
19:08:15 Okay.
19:08:02 So I was thinking of that because the their audio visual in there is not really designed for what we were doing, and.
19:08:19 Yeah. So they backed up, and then they said they were too far away, and they couldn't see the screen.
19:08:22 But you know.
19:08:28 One moment, said, the next time she was going to bring in her lawn share, because it allowed her to refine.
19:08:32 But I don't know if she was serious enough.
19:08:37 Anything else before I start.
19:08:40 No, not working.
19:08:41 Okay. I'm going to do 2 things. Well, 3 things I'm going to have a quick review of what Apple introduced.
19:08:48 I'm going to show you once again something that I just really think is super cool, and it's free and the third thing is, I'm going to talk about apple TV.
19:09:01 So I'm going to talk about apple TV. So I'm going to start sharing my screen.
19:09:06 And I'm gonna share that screen. And the first thing I'm gonna show you is this thing, this I've told you about last month.
19:09:18 But it's really quite cool. Let's make that thing go away.
19:09:25 This is something called a little little snitch Mini.
19:09:30 You can get it from the Apple Mac store, and it's free, and what it allows you to do is to see everything that you have open at any given time, and if you click on it it'll tell what it talks to.
19:09:44 And I was using this a couple days ago because I was talking to an FBI agent, and he wanted me to use this special super secure.
19:09:55 Thing to talk to him, and I had this open, and I'd forgotten that it was open.
19:10:03 And and I said, Oh, you're talking to me from the data center in Virginia, and he freaked out because that was not something he wanted to talk about.
19:10:12 Okay.
19:10:12 But a little snitch. Mini. It puts up a map, and it tells you everything.
19:10:21 You're have open, and it shows you where they're connected to which it should be enlightening.
19:10:27 You'd be surprised sometimes what your applications are talking to.
19:10:34 Okay. Now, is there any way for me to move this? Oh, yes, there is.
19:10:40 Zoom puts all this stuff up that makes it harder for me to see.
19:10:44 I have a presentation tonight, and I'm going to go through it fairly quickly and then try and get on with the demo.
19:10:58 Where are the okay? I think that's it. Yes, one of the things that Apple introduced while at the Worldwide Developer Conference Apple introduced a bunch of technologies.
19:11:11 But at the delivery conference, since these are software developers, most of the time they spent talking about software.
19:11:17 But they had hardware developments this year that they talked about last year.
19:11:23 They didn't do that last year. It was all software, and one of the first ones was that the next version of Apple TV, if you have an apple TV and you have a Mac, and you have an iphone.
19:11:37 It will allow you to use your iphone as a camera for your TV, so you can have facetime calls and see on your TV.
19:11:46 So this is a face demonstration of a facetime call where you can see the apple TV.
19:11:51 You there in the corner and the iphone, and and I went too far, and you can have a facetime call.
19:12:01 My daughter, hey is in England, and we have facetime calls with her, and we're usually kind of crammed into using their ipad, or something like that.
19:12:11 But with this we we could sit back in chairs and watch her on the TV, and she could see us using the iphone.
19:12:20 One of the things that they had is when they put the iphone next to the TV.
19:12:26 They put it on the stand so as an unannounced thing, apple apparently has a stand that you can stick your iphone on to act as a prop to hold your phones as a camera.
19:12:38 But the other thing it does is that nighttime. It acts as a nightstand, so that you can look up, and it displays in horizontally cross and big, bold letters.
19:12:50 It shows the time the time, so you can use it as a night clock.
19:12:55 But this may not mean too much to you, but Kathleen and I are both excited about this again.
19:13:04 How do you do that? Yeah.
19:13:06 How do you do that? There's there's a new.
19:13:13 There's going to be a facetime app on your TV.
19:13:15 And so you fire at facetime and ask what camera you're going to use.
19:13:19 You put your eyephone there and it syncs with that, and then your iphone streams.
19:13:24 The video to the people in England, or wherever they happen to be.
19:13:31 Iphone or ipad, or whatever she's using, gets streamed to my TV using the apple TV.
19:13:36 So it it takes 3 things, takes a TV, takes an apple TV, which is that black device that you see there.
19:13:44 Speaking, in which, Kathleen, could you bring me one of the apple Tvs in the bedroom?
19:13:28 Yeah.
19:13:50 The apple TV is that black device in the corner, and it keeps on trying to switch the screen on me.
19:13:58 And then it takes an iphone. So you're using the iphone as a camera.
19:14:01 The apple TV is the interface device in your to, and you're TV.
19:14:07 There should be something on on the apple TV that shows the space-time thing.
19:14:15 That there the apple TV does not currently support facetime. But that's going to be out in the next version of Apple TV, which is coming out this fall.
19:14:24 Oh, okay.
19:14:25 So it's an app that runs on the apple TV. That little black box in the left corner.
19:14:33 The next thing that they had that was interesting. Is that right?
19:14:38 Now on the iphone there is a health app and the health app takes information that's collected by your apple.
19:14:48 Watching your phone, and it displays to you like it tells you how many hours you were in bed, and all kinds of and it displays to you.
19:14:58 It tells you how many hours you were in bed, and all kinds of I don't want that.
19:15:00 Oh, sure! The health app on the phone is kind of cramped in terms of what it does.
19:15:09 Well, the next version of the Ipad OS. Will have the Al-health app on the ipad.
19:15:14 So you have a much larger screen to see a whole bunch of stuff and Apple's adding different things.
19:15:23 To see a whole bunch of stuff and Apple's adding different things that it can do like more information on respirations and hearts and a bunch of other things, and that's coming to the ipad and for me.
19:15:30 That's a huge plus, because I've wanted this for some time.
19:15:34 I have arrhythmia and I've had it my entire life, so it's no great thing.
19:15:41 The the apple watch can take Ekg.
19:15:47 And I wanted to show it to the my cardiologist and the only way I could show it was on my iphone, which is kind of pathetic, but with the with the new, with the having the health app on the ipad that'll make it, much much much more fun easier to
19:16:08 do, Mac OS so no is the new version of the apple operating system, and they didn't talk too much about this.
19:16:16 They just showed some features right now you can have widgets on the on, the on the Mac, on on what's the current operating system?
19:16:27 Whatever I'm currently using Ventura, you can have widgets on the screen.
19:16:31 Well, they're expanding that greatly. So it's going to act more like the ipad and the widgets will allow better.
19:16:40 They're gonna add new widgets that'll just be things that stick up on the screen. So you don't have to go look to see what time it is or what the time zones are.
19:16:49 Just stay up there, but it also is going to allow better integration between your iphone and ipad and your Mac and a bunch of stuff that's coming out on this.
19:17:00 But the integration features are going to be what most people notice.
19:17:05 It's just. It's much easier to move things back and forth and do some things on your iphone and see the results on your iphone and see the results on your on your Mac or Ipad.
19:17:15 On the ipad they're doing a lot with widgets as well, including widgets on the lock screen.
19:17:22 For example, this is the. There's an earth clock, and it not only tells you the time, but it also shows you where the sun is.
19:17:30 It assumes that the that it's positioned right over where you are.
19:17:35 So at 9 41, and the I guess this would be in the morning.
19:17:41 It would look like this, and it shows you that. But notice in particular, that the rotating earth is right over the clock.
19:17:51 So it's being it's doing all kinds of just cool things in terms of graphics in order to get it there.
19:17:58 And you can have widgets on your a lock screen as well, so you can just look at your your ipad without opening it up, and see what the time is.
19:18:09 In various time zones, or what the temperature or the air quality index, and so on.
19:18:14 So forth, is so, they think of this as more with Sonoma and Ipad.
19:18:19 OS! It's a they're working intensely on in integration and convenience.
19:18:27 Aspects of the operating system. They introduced 2 new Macs.
19:18:34 One is the Max studio with them, M. 2. Chip.
19:18:37 It's got A. M. 2 Max and an M.
19:18:40 2 ultra chip, the original ipad.
19:18:46 The Mac studios had an M. One ultra chip.
19:18:50 The M. 2 ultra is essentially 2 m. 2 chips that are stuck together so it's a very, very powerful chip.
19:19:00 The Mac pro is the tall one on the right, and that is basically the same case as the existing Mac Pro.
19:19:08 But it's going to have apple silicon chip inside, and you can put up to 192 GB of RAM in it, and it's got I don't remember for 6 or 7 slots so you can use it in the sound world
19:19:26 they put in sound cards, and there, so you can have multiple channels of sound, or you can have multiple channels of video.
19:19:34 All streaming into it at the same time. The Max studio is not that it?
19:19:41 The low end price is like $2,000. The low end price for the Mac pro is basically costs as much as your Ferrari.
19:19:50 It's it's not cheap, but for the for the recording industry and people crunching codes and so on.
19:20:00 So forth. It's probably just gonna be hot stuff.
19:20:04 The M. 2 itself. I have some figures up here.
19:20:08 You can put up a hundred 92 GB worth of RAM by comparison.
19:20:12 My first computer had 16 k. Of RAM. So you know, a bit more it's got a 32 core neural engine and neural engines are useful for things like speech processing and rendering things and cracking codes and so on, so forth.
19:20:30 800 megapascals of memory, bandwidth.
19:20:35 That means moving memory from one part of the chip to the other part of the chip to the other part of the chip.
19:20:40 It can do it really, really, fast, it'll display up to 6 apple studio displays at on that Mac studio.
19:20:50 So if you could plug 6 of those Mac studio device, the Max Apple studio displays you can plug 6 of in it at one time, and it's got a hundred 34 billion transistors which I don't know how many of you are old enough to remember the original
19:21:07 meeting transistor range, the original Sony transistor radio that I saw was, I was living in California at the time, and I was probably in first grade, and there was this thing about the oh, about the size of a brick, and it had 2 transistors in it.
19:21:31 So what this one chip, which is oh, smaller than a than a post.
19:21:37 It. This one ship has a hundred 3,234 billion chips on it.
19:21:46 Really interesting thing. Watch OS 10. They talk mostly about health things different different metrics that it can.
19:21:57 That it can pick up in terms of your health and movement and and respiration and heartbeat, and so on, so forth.
19:22:06 For most people what they're really going to notice are the new watch faces and the snoopy watch face tickled me greatly.
19:22:15 At 1 point a Woodstock slides down the minute hand and bounces off of Snoopy's head, which is pointless and doesn't mean anything, but I thought I was Kathleen, and I both giggle.
19:22:31 We thought that was cool in terms of what it does.
19:22:37 It also tells time, but most of what they spent the time on was that talking about the health benefits of the apple launch, and Kathleen and I use it specifically for that purpose.
19:22:47 They introduced a new 15 inch macbook air, and the big thing about it is that it's got a bigger screen.
19:23:00 And because it's physically larger, it also has a longer battery life than the existing macbook air.
19:23:07 What they spent the most amount of time. It was on the vision.
19:23:13 Pro, these are a set of goggles that you put on to put yourself in a virtual environment, whereas Meta talks about the virtual environment from playing games and a lot of other people do this, too.
19:23:28 They use it basically for gaming. Apple has done something very different, and Kathleen and I, we're fascinated and watched it twice because we wanted to catch up on some of the nuances it creates a virtual environment.
19:23:46 Around you so you can use your computer so you can use your phone so you can use your phone so you can integrate with data as well as showing you things like virtual couches and so on so forth.
19:23:56 But we were intrigued with it for people who were mobility and impaired, or had cognitive issues.
19:24:03 Your head, shoulder, surgery once, and I tried to type one-handed on a computer, and that was very difficult with the with the vision.
19:24:19 Pro, you can type by just moving your fingers. You don't actually have to type.
19:24:23 You don't need a keyboard, so you can type.
19:24:26 You can talk to it, you can give it verbal commands, it watches your eyes.
19:24:32 So if your eyes move in one direction, it watches your eyes, so if your eyes move in one direction, it'll move to a different part of the virtual spreadsheet, or whatever you're using.
19:24:38 We were really, really fascinated with it. The part that we were not so wild about was the price which is, it starts at $3.5.
19:24:47 What was what they didn't tell you. That was interesting, though, is that you can see someone's eyes through the screen if you look at visions, Meta, or a lot of the other.
19:24:58 All of the other ones. They're opaque they just got this brick in front of someone's face, and you can't see their eyes well, you can see the person's eyes through the through this mask.
19:25:09 We thought, Wow, how do they do? You're not really seeing the person's eyes.
19:25:12 There are cameras inside that display. What the eyes look like.
19:25:19 So if they're looking at you, or they blink, you can see it through the goggles.
19:25:23 But you're but they really are opaque. There's essentially a screen in front that shows you what their eyes are looking at and what they're eyes are doing.
19:25:32 So it was. It's a it's a fascinating piece of technology.
19:25:36 And Kathleen and I were mostly interested in in terms of people like disabled vets, or people who have had cognitive or physical limitations, because we see just a a wealth of uses for it, especially if it wasn't price.
19:25:55 $3,500, but you can go on apple sites, and they have some video showing you how it works.
19:26:01 And I encourage you to go. Do that. The Ios 17 has a bunch of new features, but the couple that are going to be the most interesting people is you can set up photocards for people.
19:26:14 So, for example, on the left one say, my daughter calls me when she calls me, rather than just have a phone number.
19:26:21 It'll display card. So that card can be a picture of her or a picture of her, or picture of her house, or whatever it is that tells me something about my daughter, or picture of her house, or whatever it is that tells me something about my daughter you can also set up memojis that are based upon
19:26:33 photographs. Emoji is kind of an emoji, only it moves so you can take a photograph of a cat, and that can be your memoji that represents you or somebody.
19:26:45 And on the right is I get my phone number is 240, area code, which is the it?
19:26:53 Which is Maryland. I didn't change it when I moved here, and when I get calls from 240, or any of the other Washington, DC.
19:27:02 Or Maryland area codes. I just don't pay any attention to them, because it's probably if I don't answer the call, the new phone will give me a transcript.
19:27:14 If they start talking so it'll show up on the screen.
19:27:18 And at that point I can decide whether or not I accept it. You might remember back in the good old days when we had answering machines in the house, you would have an incoming call.
19:27:28 You didn't know who it was you'd ignore it, and then you they start talking.
19:27:32 You realize it was your nephew, or something. You go dash to the answering machine.
19:27:38 Well, this is essentially the modern-day equivalent of that.
19:27:41 Instead of talking to them, they start talking, and it gives you a transcript, and at that point you want to listen to them.
19:27:46 You press the little green, except button, and you can talk to them, and I think this sounds like a splendid idea.
19:27:54 Kathleen jokes that I have a phone so that I won't talk to people and this way I might actually talk to some more people.
19:28:03 And are those they talked about a bunch of things?
19:28:07 The apple keynote addresses normally are 2 h.
19:28:10 This one is 2 h and 8 min, and it really was quite something, and if if nothing else, I encourage you to go look at the the videos they have of the vision pro to see how it works.
19:28:26 Because I really do think they've come up with something very, very different.
19:28:30 I noticed that this the day before Apple announced it.
19:28:35 Meta came up with a new set of goggles from Meta for gaming, and those are only 500.
19:28:44 Bucks, but they also are owned and operated by Facebook, and probably worth less than 500 bucks.
19:28:53 But I don't have a great opinion of Facebook.
19:28:59 Okay. Apple TV. It was been requested several times that I had talked about Apple TV apple TV is 3 different things.
19:29:07 It is a device, it is a service, and it is an app, and I'm going to talk first.
19:29:15 About the device. This I couldn't find screenshots that I like. So I took a bunch of photographs of R TV, the one that Kathleen's looking at right now.
19:29:26 So this is off of our TV. And if it's it doesn't look like a professional photograph.
19:29:31 This is just something I took very quickly at around midnight.
19:29:35 So when you bring up apple TV, it says the you have different choices just sticking with the apple TV part.
19:29:44 You can watch now something, and down at the bottom you see thumbnails of things that I've recently been watching, or things that we own, and I just bought a 6 pack of mission impossible movies.
19:29:59 So it's showing mission impossible. And maybe in Boston, DC.
19:30:03 Stargirl so that's on the menu there so the watch now is you can watch these things, or you can go over the next tab, which is TV apple TV-plusplus.
19:30:14 Apple tvplus is the service so on the apple TV, you can watch apple TV plus, and for that it will show movies that are on apple Tvs.
19:30:25 Such as 300, which has nothing to do with apple.
19:30:28 But apple currently is showing it, or you can watch various series that are on TV or movies that were made for apple TV.
19:30:37 You can watch sports which I see skipped over entirely entirely, because I don't watch sports on it.
19:30:42 You can go into the Apple TV store and buy or rent movies, or you can go into.
19:30:53 Why?
19:30:56 Are. You can go into your own library, and it shows you libraries of things that you already own.
19:31:02 So these are digital movies that we purchased or were given to us, or whatever.
19:31:10 So that's that's the apple TV service running on the apple TV device.
19:31:16 If you go beyond, you look into this, Ted Lasso is on Apple TV, plus.
19:31:24 It's a series that's in its third season, and probably the last season.
19:31:30 It's for the last 3 years. It's the highest rated streaming series on TV.
19:31:37 It's about a football coach from Kansas who is hired to run an English football team, and so it's filled with a whole bunch of yeah in English football, as we call soccer and it's filled with a whole bunch of culture clashes in terms of food
19:31:57 and language, and customs, and so on, so forth. I should warn you that the language is a little bit colorful, because the English on TV, if you watch masterpiece theater, you think that everybody speaks in the Queen's English, and really their language is much more blue than it is in
19:32:17 the United States. So the English people, and in Ted Lasso tend to say very colorful things.
19:32:26 But it's still quite, quite funny. We greatly enjoyed it.
19:32:31 It also has original movies. This is from the movie Greyhound, which is a Tom Hanks movie about a destroyer captain fighting the Nazis in the Atlantic during World War.
19:32:43 2. It was supposed to be released in theaters, but the pandemic came about and Apple bought the movie and has it on apple TV.
19:32:54 It is extremely well done, and I was impressed with the set design, because the it looks like they're really fighting this battle from this destroyer.
19:33:04 But the destroyer itself was strapped a long time ago, so I was curious how they did it, and they actually built a huge set to mimic the bridge, and a lot of it was done with computers.
19:33:15 So really impressed with that apple, also produced this movie which is on the eighth of Tetris into the United States, and it is hilariously funny.
19:33:30 And I was really shocked when I was looking about looking it up.
19:33:33 It's really pretty much true. There are some things that they made up like dialogue, but the events are just bizarre beyond.
19:33:44 Belief. And now there's a movie about it really like that.
19:33:49 And they are even show the original Tetris, which was character based.
19:33:54 That wasn't even graphics based. So it's a really interesting movie which was also produced by Apple.
19:34:02 Hey? It was the first streaming service the apple ever produced, and it won 3 Academy Awards.
19:34:10 It was also one of the very first feature films ever that have deaf sign language as a major portion of the dialogue.
19:34:21 So a large portion of the movie is done in American sign language.
19:34:26 Really, really, really, well, done. If you are a science fiction fan.
19:34:35 They also have started a series based upon Isaac Asimov's novel foundation.
19:34:40 Which has been long thought to be unfillmable, because foundation takes place over hundreds of years and advanced civilization in the far future.
19:34:52 But Apple's doing it, and the second season starts again.
19:34:56 I think in July.
19:35:00 We also have on our apple TV, an app called Youtube TV, that's run by Google, and with Youtube, TV, we get our local news off of our apple TV using the Youtube app and the Youtube app, the ABC Nbc Cbs, these are all seattle Stations.
19:35:23 So we get Seattle news. We get the local news. Anything that they're showing in Seattle that we can actually see unless we had cable.
19:35:31 We don't need cable. We can use the Youtube app for that.
19:35:34 And if you look at the this is a screenshot of apple TV, there are large icons, and you can tell it's for Amazon, Prime and Youtube TV's for Amazon, prime and Youtube TV's for Amazon prime and Youtube TV, and apple TV, and Disney
19:35:48 blast. And some of these things come with it like you see the joystick, red joystick, icon, the third row that's for Apple Arcade.
19:36:01 You can see the little bullet. That's that's the activity monitor.
19:36:06 The same thing that you have on your apple watch and your iphone.
19:36:10 So tracking your activity, and you can do exercises and exercise videos, and so on and so forth.
19:36:15 And you'll see here in the upper left that there's a little gear icon that's the settings program from for Apple TV.
19:36:24 It looks a lot like the settings, icon, that you have on your Imac or your ipad, and works pretty much the same way, and on the third row down on the right side you'll see that blue icon with the looks like an a that's for the apple TV app store where
19:36:43 you go and buy apple TV apps. So it's the interface is very similar.
19:36:50 I'm gonna stop screen sharing for a second to show you something physical.
19:36:55 If I can ever find my!
19:37:00 Stop. Okay, this is the remote that you use for apple TV.
19:37:07 The circle up here at the top and you can use it to go in various sundry directions, and it's got a mute and up and down and volume control, and so on.
19:37:16 So forth, and this is what an apple TV looks like.
19:37:19 It's just a black brick, and it's actually fairly heavy.
19:37:24 This is an older model that's got an HDMI port on the back, so that you can plug your TV into it.
19:37:32 And it's got an Ethernet, Jack. There are 2 models out now.
19:37:35 One doesn't have an Ethernet, Jack, and one does the advantage of an ethernet well, if it doesn't have an Ethernet, jack, then it works entirely over Wi-fi.
19:37:45 The problem with TV over Wi-fi, especially if you're using.
19:37:49 There are people gamers like to use the apple TV for games is that Wi-fi has a built-in latency that most people wouldn't notice.
19:37:58 You know, just things are split. Second off, but with gamers they get upset with that and with the you don't have Wi-fi latency if you plug it into ethernet.
19:38:08 So the Ethernet model currently costs a little bit more than the Wi-fi only version.
19:38:15 But that's what an apple TV is.
19:38:18 And you plug your TV into it and you run it through your phone.
19:38:24 And this is how we get TV. So we don't.
19:38:28 We're on wave, but we do not subscribe to waves TV services because they're really expensive.
19:38:34 We use the Youtube TV the other advantage in having this brick to get your TV when you use wave for your TV service wave sells your TV habits, everything that you watch it sells them to TV companies.
19:38:50 It sells them to Disney and Cbs. And so on, and so forth.
19:38:54 Everything that goes to the apple TV is encrypted.
19:38:58 So nobody gets it.
19:39:02 It's all encrypted. So Wave has no idea what I'm doing with with my with my.
19:39:08 Hey? Notice! Have you noticed that your remote for your apple TV?
19:39:11 Is extremely sensitive.
19:39:16 The the original ones were that used to infuriate me.
19:39:21 The new one. Isn't that bad?
19:39:23 So so mine looks just like the one that you have there.
19:39:27 And it's it's a 4 K version.
19:39:31 It's yeah. It's probably same one.
19:39:30 So I think it's probably the newest one but it, but it has a setting that you can.
19:39:39 Yeah, that's exactly the same one has a setting in there that you can go ahead and turn off the sensitivity.
19:39:45 It has either tactile type of things where you have to actually push things to get them to work, or we were having troubles with even just getting our finger close to it.
19:39:54 And it was sensitive enough that it would change things on us so.
19:39:59 But you can turn that off and make it much less aggravating.
19:40:01 I did not know that I'm going to investigate that.
19:40:03 Yes, yes, in settings for apple TV.
19:40:08 It's wonderful.
19:40:09 Ron. Which where would that be? In which setting?
19:40:14 Well, I'm not where I can see my unit, but it if you Google it, it'll tell Ya.
19:40:20 Why is my apple TV remote, so sensitive, or something like that?
19:40:24 And it'll tell you how to fix it.
19:40:25 Yeah, if you go into this settings app here, it's got a whole part on the remote.
19:40:33 And I just never paid attention to it. So Uhhuh!
19:40:35 Yeah, yeah. It's just made a maddening thing.
19:40:39 Just wonderful.
19:40:42 Lauren. Everything that you're describing is based off of having the apple TV.
19:40:51 Yes.
19:40:48 You know the box, the unit itself. Does all this apply like on our Lg, I have apple TV, just the app, and then I can do the same things.
19:41:01 Does all this apply the same way? Are you specifically talking the?
19:41:13 Oh, okay.
19:41:05 No, the apple TV that is on your lg, TV is the service, which is the next thing I'm gonna talk about the apple TV physical brick.
19:41:17 I add, apps to the apple TV, and everything goes through the apple TV on your lg, it goes through the Lg and it goes through wave and they sell your data.
19:41:29 Among other things, it's it's quite a bit different than the service, which is what I'm going to show next.
19:41:36 Yeah, I have a older TV where we have the actual brick apple TV hooked up.
19:41:42 But then the newer TV came with it. So then the older TV got the brick one.
19:41:57 Okay.
19:41:47 Okay. Well, the the brick one actually does things that the that the one that comes with your TV does not because the the TV has the service.
19:42:01 This is, the. This is the Apple TV service, and, for example, the watch now, and so on, so forth.
19:42:09 It looks a lot like it did on the apple TV, except that you can't do things like Youtube Tvs.
19:42:17 It doesn't offer Youtube TV. You can't add other apps to the service.
19:42:22 So this service that you get a use subscribe to it.
19:42:26 If you buy a new iphone sometimes Verizon throws it in for free and things like that.
19:42:30 But this is a service. So these are things that you can.
19:42:36 Apple TV is an app on your Mac. If you go look for it, you you can find it unless you're operating systems to old.
19:42:45 But it's it's a service.
19:42:48 And the Apple TV service works. The pretty much the same way on a Mac as it does on a ipad, as it does in a iphone.
19:42:57 Obviously the big difference is on a Mac. You've got a much bigger screen than you do on your ipad or iphone, but under the apple TV, plus tab, you can go through, and they've got various sundry programs that you can scroll up and down sideways one of the things that
19:43:18 we're very fond of right now is is a new series called Cyo, which is a Science Fiction series about people.
19:43:27 10,000 people live in this huge underground silo, and none of them know why, because they have a governance that basically says that history started when they moved into the silo.
19:43:40 So nobody has any idea what it's like on the outside, except they have this one external camera.
19:43:45 That shows that people go outside die. It's not a warm, fuzzy series, but it's very, very well done.
19:43:54 It's based upon a science fiction book of the same name.
19:43:58 But these these are programs that you can get through apple TV plus, and they range from series like, these are all series, or they can be movies.
19:44:14 Such as the Tom Hanks, ones that I talked to you about, and if you click on it'll give you a little preview of it.
19:44:21 Well, since I.
19:44:27 I don't know if it'll actually play this for me, because.
19:44:37 Nope, it's not going to play it.
19:44:46 I. It's not gonna play Uhhuh. It's playing it on our TV.
19:44:51 But it's not on the zoom.
19:44:55 Well, but anyway, it's it sound really well done, and but it's got a bunch of different movies.
19:45:07 300 came out there long before the apple TV existed.
19:45:11 But apparently that's showing that as well, and all kinds of there's just an awful lot of content Kathleen and I were noting that something that came up on TV had to do with somebody was doing a report on the data that people were buying.
19:45:29 For based upon people's TV habits and Kathleen and I were thinking about it other than the nightly news.
19:45:35 We don't really watch that much broadcast TV. Most of the stuff we watch is streaming.
19:45:40 And since it comes through Apple TV, they really aren't getting anything on us.
19:45:49 Then they also have a an agreement with Major League baseball, major, league, Soccer.
19:45:57 So you can much sports and and the apple TV, including things that we cannot get from your local one.
19:46:05 You can buy different movies and series, and so on and so forth.
19:46:10 Or rent them, and then of the library.
19:46:15 The you might have noticed that in the newer versions of the Mac operating system there is no itunes anymore.
19:46:20 Itunes used to have not only music, but it also had podcasts, and it had movies, and it had books, and so on, and so forth.
19:46:29 And they've split all those things out. So there's now an Ibooks.
19:46:32 And now there's a podcast, application, and so on.
19:46:35 So forth. But you're video that you used to have on your machine is now on the apple TV.
19:46:42 So if you wonder where that video went, you go look under your apple.
19:46:46 TV app and so these are things that I've recently added.
19:46:51 And these are movies. And these are TV shows, none of which I add.
19:46:54 So I have no idea where these things came from. Home videos.
19:46:59 I used to take my regular Dvds. And I used to rip them, and I'd watch them on our TV and it because those are not purchased videos.
19:47:11 A all considers those home movies so battlefield star Galactica got a whole set of Dvds of that.
19:47:18 And now they're it considers his home movies, and it's broken out by different types of genres.
19:47:27 And that's what that's what the service is, so that there's a difference between the application on the Mac, which is called apple TV.
19:47:41 The server which is called Apple TV. The service which is called apple TV-plus, and the physical device and it's kind of confusing because Apple calls all of apple TV, and I've been talking for quite a bit.
19:47:55 So do I have any questions.
19:48:03 Yes.
19:47:58 I have a Roku TV that streams only, and II have apple TV on it.
19:48:08 And I can watch Ted Lasso and some of the things they have there.
19:48:14 But.
19:48:13 Yes, but you see that that is the service and.
19:48:16 That is the service. I. It is not apple TV per se.
19:48:21 Yes. Okay.
19:48:23 That's is that the app do you call it?
19:48:26 Yes, it's the same as the app that's on your your Mac, or on your iphone or ipad.
19:48:33 That's what the Roku has. It's not the same.
19:48:36 It's not this box that encrypts your in and out, and you can't add other applications.
19:48:43 I didn't show you what some of the other applications are.
19:48:44 There are workout applications. There's a free application that you can watch penguins at a zoom that I'm very fond of, because I'm very fond of penguins.
19:48:55 There are hundreds of apps for the for this, for the physical device, and some of them are free and some of them are not you the one app that does nothing but the earth rotates, and as the earth rotates, and as the earth rotates and as the earth rotates and as the earth rotates you can watch the
19:49:15 watch as the terminator line moves in and things turn into darkness.
19:49:19 So if you watched it for 24 h, you watch a complete rotation.
19:49:22 Why, you'd want that on your TV I don't know, but I was free.
19:49:25 So I got it.
19:49:29 The screen savers on it are pretty special.
19:49:32 The screen savers are phenomenal.
19:49:34 Yes.
19:49:36 The what Apple did was they got it went out with some 4 K.
19:49:41 Or possibly Eightk. I'm not sure exactly. Cameras mounted on stabilized helicopters, stabilized cameras, mounted on stabilized helicopters, stabilized cameras mounted on a stabilized helicopters stabilized cameras on stabilized helicopters and their overhead
19:50:04 views and Greenland, and just fantastic shots, and it's Kathleen and I were joking that they, the city shots, seem to be focused on cities that have flagship apple stores.
19:50:20 So there's London, and there's New York, and there's San Francisco.
19:50:23 It's really just a joke. They were looking for just things that our iconic things.
19:50:29 And there's just and you you can set the physical device so that the screen saver is on for hours on end.
19:50:38 Normally I mindset so that if we haven't used it in 15 min it turns the cell phone.
19:50:43 But my nephew, who was in a he, was in the Air Force.
19:50:48 He wasn't a severe accent, and he had to be discharged from the Air Force he has very, very limited vision, and he likes the apple TV because he's got like an 80 inch.
19:51:01 TV he likes the Apple TV cause. He can see it, and he likes the screen saver.
19:51:08 So when he's having parties over his house. We were just at my grand niece's graduation party.
19:51:14 He'll just have screen savers play one after the other for hours on in no sound or anything.
19:51:20 Just the screen saver. And you see these slowly moving vistas of San Francisco or New York, or ice lows, and they have recently added shots from outer space and from under the ocean.
19:51:33 So it's it's really quite cool.
19:51:36 Just wish they would put on their what you're looking at, you know.
19:51:40 What is this location?
19:51:41 If you just gently tap the the circle, don't actually click it.
19:51:46 Yeah.
19:51:48 Just gently tap it. It'll briefly show up where it is.
19:51:51 Oh, cool! I'll try that.
19:51:54 Yeah, it's one of the first things that I figured out. I said.
19:51:59 There's gotta be a way to show the location, and that's the way to do it.
19:52:05 But we really like the apple TV.
19:52:10 This is an older one that we had from my, actually, this is our original one.
19:52:17 My mother was using it, and it gave her a great deal more control over her TV.
19:52:24 Then then she would have, with a regular, remote, and she liked that, although sometimes she managed to do things with it, that I'd never figured out how she had it set on a sieve assistive technologies.
19:52:42 One she wanted closed captioning, and it was reading the closed, captioning.
19:52:46 But it was reading it really, really, really fast. Neither one of us could really follow what it was saying.
19:52:50 So she did discover things that I haven't been able to do duplicate, but it gave her a great deal more control.
19:53:00 Yes.
19:53:10 Yes.
19:53:00 Lawrence, when you're subscribed to the so Youtube for your your local and nationwide news, can you go back?
19:53:14 And watch something. My whole thing is we only use the Dvr.
19:53:19 Yes.
19:53:19 We never watch, live because we don't wanna watch commercials, or it's at a time that is inconvenient for us to watch it.
19:53:27 So? Is that possible with the Youtube that you're using?
19:53:30 Yes, in fact, they call it they call it an unlimited Dvr.
19:53:37 Because you can say, record everything it will. But as an example, it's not working right now, because of the writer's strike.
19:53:48 But I never watch the tonight show, or the late show, or any of those things on, because they're too late.
19:53:54 But I can record them, and you record them just by tapping them.
19:53:58 And it says, yes, we'll record this, and you can record the entire series so you only have to do that once and it'll record it every day, and you can say record only originals or record originals and repeats, and it when they say it's unlimited
19:54:14 storage from Youtube's perspective. They're just storing a file and they're storing a software on their server.
19:54:20 And other people are probably stored that file, too. So it's not taking up any space on your apple TV or on your device at all.
19:53:32 Okay, so.
19:54:28 It's just a pointinter. So you can. You can go back and pick off any day you want and watch them in the wrong order and watch them repeatedly.
19:54:36 Can you fast forward through the commercials?
19:54:40 It depends upon what it is. It's a recording.
19:54:44 If it's something like, for example, if if you record something from a is an example of a Star trek, we were watching it on on TV.
19:54:59 But there is a Cbs or whoever has a paramount, whoever it is, they have an app, and it sees that you want watching it, and it switches you to the app. And if you're using the app they force, you to watch commercials so.
19:55:16 So you're better off to stay within apple and not go.
19:55:21 It depends. If it's not available, it depends upon how we.
19:55:27 Is, the streaming was working really nice until paramount, and Columbia, and so on.
19:55:36 So forth, decided they were gonna make money off of it. Now it's very confused, you know, whenever.
19:55:40 Yeah, we could like on certain things like, Oh, I think it's on Hulu, on my subscription, I added.
19:55:49 The of course, it's an extra cost, but to have no commercials, cause I absolutely hate commercials.
19:55:54 Yes.
19:55:56 So you pay. I don't know. 4, 99 extra for what?
19:55:59 On top of whatever you monthly is so I was wondering if the Youtube, the news part of what you're doing.
19:56:09 Yeah, yeah. If if you're watching the news and the commercial comes up.
19:56:07 If there's an option, because that's my biggest pet peeve.
19:56:15 But you've recorded it. You can just skip right over the commercial.
19:56:18 And I, wanna, okay.
19:56:20 Well, you can forward over the commercial and the the way you forward on it.
19:56:25 If you tap on this circle at the top it'll go for forward or backward, 10 s at a time, or you can just hold it down, and it'll scroll through it so.
19:56:33 I definitely need to do what Ron did there and figure out the sensitivity.
19:56:38 I mean you can hardly even put it in your hand.
19:56:41 In that sucker goes all over the place, and then.
19:56:43 Yup, that's the problem we were having. Yup, it's all gone now.
19:56:45 Yeah, bye.
19:56:44 Yeah. Well, the older ones that had the black control.
19:56:49 See, II have the older one. Mine's not that new one that you have.
19:56:54 The ones with the black control, I used to say really bad things about it, but the this one's not.
19:56:59 Yeah, we have worked with it, and it wasn't pretty.
19:57:02 This one's not bad. The other thing that you can do with apple TV is that you can.
19:57:10 Oh, I have the remote on my phone for that exact reason.
19:57:15 Yeah.
19:57:13 Yes, I'm gonna switch back to sharing notes that people can see this.
19:57:23 Oh, no, that's not how to do it.
19:57:26 I'm not going to do it that way. Stop! Go away!
19:57:32 I get a move it closer to the camera and it went to sleep.
19:57:37 So huh! That is a an apple TV remote on my phone.
19:57:47 And if you have the current model of the apple of the iphone operating system, it's on there already.
19:57:55 If you go into control center, you can add a whole bunch of different things to your phone and including for flashlights, apple TV, remote magnifier code scanner screen recorder, voice, mammal, a whole bunch of stuff that you can add and so I added the remote so
19:58:17 that I can control. We have a frequent issue that we'll.
19:58:21 We'll watch the news during dinner, and I'll leave the remote closer to the TV.
19:58:27 We're sitting at the table, and we want to do something.
19:58:31 So just take out your phone and and control the TV without.
19:58:37 Getting it from dinner. So it's really handy.
19:58:43 I can see you're really impressed with the fact that I can control my TV with my phone.
19:58:47 But it really is quite cool.
19:58:49 I was just looking at it so. But the TV itself has to be on because it says, which television does it want?
19:58:57 Well, believe it or not. That's not true anymore. If you have something like a home pond, I'm not gonna demonstrate it right now.
19:59:04 But there's a trigger word to use to talk to the homep that may or may not be Seri.
19:59:10 But I will. I will tell the homepod to turn on the TV and turn on the TV.
19:59:15 Well, you're just that sophisticated.
19:59:18 Here's what I found. And I'll stop it.
19:59:23 I was trying to avoid that. But my watch is trying to tell me how to do this.
19:59:27 Once the TV is on, you still can't launch anything.
19:59:32 But I found out that I can say, launch Youtube, TV and the launch Youtube TV won't change channels.
19:59:40 But at least I've got Youtube TV up. So I can do that just with my voice.
19:59:43 Well, then, the remote works on the, on the phone. It'll find it.
19:59:47 Then the remote works on the phone.
19:59:49 I got it. Okay.
19:59:50 Yeah, it's quite cool.
19:59:55 So it's a little bit confusing. But there are 3 different apple Tvs.
20:00:00 The device, the the service, and the app, and the app on on your, on your roku, or on your Mac, or on your ipad or your iphone.
20:00:17 Does some things, and if you subscribe to the service, it does more things.
20:00:22 But if you have this box it does a lot more stuff.
20:00:24 So it's a little bit confusing.
20:00:30 Any other questions?
20:00:33 Doesn't have to be about apple TV can be about something else.
20:00:37 We were talking about.
20:00:40 How many of you are gonna go out and buy on $11,000, Mac.
20:00:46 Pro with with a hundred 92 GB of Rand.
20:00:53 We'll leave that to you.
20:00:57 The.
20:00:56 And then you can teach us.
20:00:58 Yeah, yeah.
20:01:00 The the Mac pro comes in 2 different versions. One is a regular one, that you know goes upright, but then they also have one.
20:01:08 That's rackbound, so you can buy a whole bunch of them, and I know somebody who put in an order for a of those.
20:01:19 They crack diplomatic codes for a living, so they're using them to do.
20:01:27 Hi-in cryptography.
20:01:31 But II don't have that need, so my needs are more modest.
20:01:40 Any other questions?
20:01:43 How do you like your apple studio display?
20:01:49 When well, I like the apple studio display.
20:01:53 I the the sound for something like this. The sound is fine when I'm watching a movie, it doesn't have the.
20:02:00 The it's not as doesn't sound as full as listening to a month home pods, or something like that.
20:02:07 But that's about the only place there's really not top-notch I'm a photographer, and I really really liked the color foridelity.
20:02:16 It's much more accurate than any other display I've ever had.
20:02:20 It's got a hub on the back so I can plug other things into it.
20:02:24 It's I really like it a lot. I was a little bit surprised, though, when my old monitor died, and I wanted to get something that had comparable specs because if you're looking at really accurate color on one screen, and then you turn to this other screen and the colors are different
20:02:42 it's really annoying. And to get something that had decent specs costs as much as the apple studio.
20:02:50 And yet it doesn't have the security chip inside.
20:02:53 It doesn't have the the Usbc. Ports on the back.
20:02:59 It's just it's just not nearly as capable.
20:03:03 And yet the price is comparable so that took me by surprise.
20:03:08 I was not expecting that so it's even a better bargain, I guess, than I thought it was.
20:03:13 It's not cheap, but it's I'm really impressed with it.
20:03:23 No other questions. I have a question. Then what are we gonna do next month?
20:03:31 How about a session on how to use apple maps, especially?
20:03:36 How to use. Say for us service maps with apple maps so you can use Gp.
20:03:45 Hmm!
20:03:43 S. For example, when you're hiking.
20:03:47 That's a good question. I don't even know if I know the answer to that.
20:03:52 I have some friends who are really fascinated with this one app, and I can't remember the name of it.
20:03:58 That it's a server, so it costs money, and I haven't invested.
20:04:02 There's all trails for one, and there's a G.
20:04:05 A IA, or something like that. The other one?
20:04:08 I think all trails is the one they were using.
20:04:12 But it's specifically designed. So you can use your iphone when you're nowhere near cell towers, and it uses the Gp in it to update the map of where you're going.
20:04:23 And it's based upon some fairly high definition.
20:04:28 Trail maps and using us Forest Service and Us.
20:04:34 Park service databases, but it costs money, and I've never used it.
20:04:40 Hi! I've reached the age of my life that if I'm not near a road I probably don't wanna be there so.
20:04:49 If my bicycle can't go there, I probably shouldn't go there.
20:04:56 Other ideas.
20:04:59 I'm not opposed to doing the apple maps thing.
20:05:02 For one thing, I've been shocked at how improved apple maps is.
20:05:08 We used to use Google Maps for everything. And I'm just really impressed with the progress apple has made with apple maps and it's getting the press.
20:05:21 Now that Google mimics some of the apple maps feature.
20:05:24 If you are writing a bike, for example, and you're telling it where you want to go, the your watch will will tap to tell you whether or not you're supposed to turn left or right, and that worked also when you were in the car with taps tell you turn left.
20:05:44 Or right. And now Google does that too, which is which is new.
20:05:49 It took me by surprise when when Google started doing that.
20:05:52 So they Google's learning from apple. So they've greatly improved it.
20:05:59 And if you're in a city particularly San Francisco or New York apple maps, just is phenomenal when you come out of the subway it'll tell you which direction to turn to when you're in the subway and you're spiraling upwards you lose track of
20:06:15 which way is north? Which way south and apple maps will tell you to turn that way, and Google will kind of just strand you on the street and tell you to figure it out.
20:06:24 So I've been impressed with the what they've done.
20:06:28 I'm interested.
20:06:27 Didn't for a while, but it was apple maps was so bad they used Google as well.
20:06:36 But when we came cross country in 2,018, we use Google Maps.
20:06:41 We did not use apple maps, because as soon as we hit the deserts in the Western United States we weren't going to.
20:06:50 We weren't going to subject ourselves to that, we might have ended up in Mexico or Canada.
20:06:56 So we skip that we moved that here we went the southern route because there were having terrific snowstorms in the north.
20:07:06 So we went through Mississippi and Texas and Arizona, and whence, when you're in West Texas, from there to California.
20:07:18 Well, wireless signals are really kind of hard to come by.
20:07:24 But Google Maps would just use GPS and send us on our way, and apple maps would get confused.
20:07:32 I'm interested in tracing ships in the Straits.
20:07:40 Is there an app that's good for that?
20:07:42 Yes.
20:07:44 There are, and there are so apps that'll tell you that with large planes are flying overhead, it'll tell you what those planes are and where they're going.
20:07:55 But there are apps for tracking ships and their apps for tracking planes.
20:08:01 When the Coast Guard does, one of their rescue flights?
20:08:04 That's those aren't logs. So won't help you with that.
20:08:08 But for most things it'll. It'll tell you what the plane is overhead, or you could look at a ship and say, What is that?
20:08:17 Okay.
20:08:15 And and assuming that your sense of direction's halfway decent, you can look at this app, and it'll tell you what that ship is.
20:08:22 So!
20:08:29 Yup!
20:08:22 Carol, I would download the app called the Marine Traffic it's so cool we use it on a nightly basis because we see the the cruise ships going in and out or at night when they're coming back in.
20:08:38 And so we want to know which one we just earlier, we're using it trying to see the cruise ships that went by yesterday.
20:08:45 How far north they had gotten to Alaska, and then I was looking at in Alaska the ones that are heading back that'll be coming through here, usually at about 2 or 3 in the morning.
20:08:57 They come back through the street you can pay for the app, and then you it's like, I think it's a monthly subscription.
20:09:04 I personally didn't find it necessary, because I didn't need all the information, but it definitely.
20:09:10 You can try it, and then see if you want to know way.
20:09:15 More details about the specific ship or the speeds, how there are certain things that are locked on that you can't get without subscription.
20:09:28 But like I said, I'm I'm okay with just seeing the pictures and where it left, and what it's destination is.
20:09:34 Yeah, I live on Dunyness day. So I'd like to.
20:09:37 Okay.
20:09:39 I'd like to have that. I don't care where I mean.
20:09:42 I've been on Alaskan cruise, and I didn't see the lighthouse because we stopped at Victoria, and then you were too far away. Then.
20:09:58 Thank you.
20:09:52 Oh, I see. Yeah, but we find the marine traffic super interesting. Yeah.
20:10:01 By the time I think they leave in Seattle at 5, and at 70' clock they're in front of our house.
20:10:04 Yeah, yeah.
20:10:04 Yeah.
20:10:06 I think you can save favorite votes, too. You know both names or their call signs, or whatever it is, and then you can ask where it is right now, like full star. You know one of those, and it'll show you where it is, and it'll show you where it is and instantly and what they're up to.
20:10:28 Oh!
20:10:32 Yeah.
20:10:33 Hmm!
20:10:24 Yeah, I did that. But I didn't keep paying but that's part of the paid subscription so you can follow your favorite cruise ships, or whatever it is that you're in.
20:10:35 Not a cool thing you're into.
20:10:39 Any other suggestions as to what we do next month.
20:10:47 Okay. Well, if you come up with something, even email me and we'll see what we can do.
20:10:54 Awesome. Also, there's there is a possibility.
20:10:58 I might have jury duty next month that could scare us up.
20:11:04 This courts have been way, way way backed up, so the chance that they won't select me for something is probably fairly small, but it might be, you know, case of shoplifting, or it could be something big.
20:11:20 Have no idea but we shall find out any.
20:11:22 Did you say that you didn't have a sign in sheet?
20:11:27 No, I forgot.
20:11:32 Sorry.
20:11:35 I don't think he really is.
20:11:38 Well, it. It is nice for keeping track, so it would.
20:11:43 It would have been helpful if I'd remembered.
20:11:46 I'm I'm sure Chris wrote it all down.
20:11:49 Yeah, I think she was writing.
20:11:51 I'm a member of. I'm an officer of another user group in the in the DC area, and on Saturday we had Rob Pegoraro, who was a Washington post columnist who wrote about computers and such, and he asked if they had a
20:12:08 sign-in sheet. And there's this deathly silence, because he had.
20:12:12 He goes to these conferences worldwide conferences, where he talks about personal electronics.
20:12:19 So appliance, conferences and computer conferences and security conferences.
20:12:25 And they give them these bags full of stuff, quite often quite useless, sometimes quite useful.
20:12:31 And he was giving away this stuff, and he wanted to use the sign in sheet for a drawing, and he said, Do you have a sign in sheet?
20:12:38 Deathly silence. 80 people in the room, no sign in sheets, so they.
20:12:45 He gave the stuff away. Anyway, it was oh, well, such as live.
20:12:54 Anything else.
20:12:56 Something we might consider is everybody bringing their favorite app that they like, or something, and sharing it with a group either either.
20:13:06 I would I would be fascinated with that if you could.
20:13:10 That's a good idea, that talk about your favorite iphone app or ipad app, or just app on your on your computer.
20:13:21 I find that what I use my computer for today is so radically different of what I used it for in 1,977 that it's not even I, personally wrote my first word processor.
20:13:35 I bought it, so I could turn it into a magic typewriter.
20:13:40 Nobody had written a word processor for my machine, so I wrote my own when I was at Noaa.
20:13:46 They didn't have. You couldn't get Web servers. Software didn't exist.
20:13:52 So I wrote the Web Server software for my agency, and that that that software was our first webinar.
20:13:59 So the kinds of things that I used to do with computers is very different than what I do today.
20:14:04 So I'd be, I'd be very curious what your favorite apps are. So we should definitely do that.
20:14:13 That's something that we could do every month, I mean, just does anybody have their paper or something like that?
20:14:18 Yup!
20:14:19 Give a 2 min, feel on it, or something.
20:14:21 Or if you got something new that you just think is super cool.
20:14:26 Then, yeah, that sounds like an excellent idea.
20:14:29 It doesn't happen. You don't have to listen to me every month.
20:14:32 We enjoy it, though.
20:14:36 Well, thank you. Good night.
20:14:39 Thank you.
20:14:38 Thank yo
Upgrading a computer is often a scary time for users. Not only do no computers cost money, but sometimes you also need to upgrade software, which can also cost money. Then there is the complexity of taking your data — tax returns, family photos, that great novel you’ve been working on for three decades — and transferring everything to the new computer.
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It was a lot to cover in two hours. A video recording of the meeting can be found below, and below that, a transcript of the closed-captioning.
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Video of the May 16 meeting:
Upgrading: When, why, how
Transcript of the video:
18:32:46 Yes, I'm going to in a second. Okay? I went to ask first of all for permission to.
18:32:58 Record the meeting because it makes it easier for me to post the meeting.
18:33:08 If it's been recorded.
18:33:12 So!
18:33:13 I agree.
18:33:16 Okay.
18:33:16 Is anyone disagree with that?
18:33:18 No, I just got the box tells you that you're recording.
18:33:23 Okay.
18:33:28 And I still have one more thing to open up, which is my list of things that I was going to talk about.
18:33:35 Okay. Now, I'm actually sort of organized, although I don't think I'd ask Kathleen for a second opinion on that.
18:33:45 Okay.
18:33:48 So where are we for questions?
18:33:51 Yes, we start off with a question. So that's what we're gonna begin with. Anybody.
18:33:58 Have any questions?
18:33:58 Yeah, I do.
18:33:59 I do? I do?
18:34:00 Okay, Marcia, you can go first.
18:34:04 Yeah, how do I sync up my text on my phone with my computer?
18:34:12 How do you? I'm not sure what you mean by that.
18:34:16 I'd like to see my texts that I get on my phone on my computer.
18:34:21 How do I?
18:34:22 The easiest way to do that would be to to show you.
18:34:28 So I shall show you.
18:34:30 Okay.
18:34:33 And I don't need this in the way, so we'll get rid of that.
18:34:38 That's not it. I'm not going to start another video meeting in the middle of a video meeting.
18:34:45 If you go into messages up here at the top, where it says settings, you can say, General, how long you went to the meeting messages to be, and then messages you can say you can be reached for messages at, and then what you can be reached at and this happens to be a my Fake account that I
18:35:08 use for demonstrations, but you can also add in here things like your phone number, other email accounts.
18:35:15 And so you just basically add them to messages. And then if you get a phone, if you get a message that goes to your phone. But you've told your computer that it can also accept messages from that phone number, it'll appear on your Mac as well.
18:35:30 Okay, that's not so hard.
18:35:33 Hmm, yeah. And Peter does't have that as an option, because I'm not willing to buy $1,000 phone just to debu demos for a fake person.
18:35:43 Okay.
18:35:43 There are limits to my, to my a willingness to go out there and do things like that.
18:35:53 Okay. Any other questions.
18:35:57 Yes.
18:35:55 How do I do? This might be too long of a question, and I may just have to call the Apple people.
18:36:04 But you might have something to say about it. My watch it's doing it right now.
18:36:10 Storage full try removing music or photos, using the apple watch app on iphone well, I don't really have photos in there, or I have no music that I'm aware of.
18:36:22 And what I read online says, if you remove it off your iphone, you might also be removing it from your Imac.
18:36:29 And Icloud, and everywhere else. So I'm a little nervous.
18:36:30 Yes, yeah, the the. That's another thing that it's easier to demonstrate.
18:36:39 Assuming that I can actually get it to, because I can never remember how to do this, and I can't do that right now, because my cable that I would use to connect is not actually connected to anything.
18:37:01 Right, yeah.
18:37:08 Right.
18:36:51 So anyway, what you do is you launch on your on your phone, your apple watch app and then underneath that it lists all the apps that can sync things to your watch, and you're just turn off the stuff that you don't want to so for example.
18:37:13 Hmm!
18:37:12 If it lists photos and messages, and so on, so forth.
18:37:15 And if you don't want your Costco card to show up on your watch, just get rid of it.
18:37:21 Right.
18:37:22 Now you can delete it, or you can turn off sync depends upon what it what kind of thing it is.
18:37:29 But, for example, I'm not planning on taking a flight in the next several months, so I've got Alaska Airlines and Southwest, and so on.
18:37:41 Hmm!
18:37:39 So forth. These apps on my phone for the various airlines.
18:37:47 When you're at the airport. It's really nice.
18:37:49 If Alaska airlines is delayed, if it pops up in your watch and says, Hey, it's late, or they moved the gate, or something like that.
18:37:57 But if you're not flying, go into your watch, app, and say no, you don't want it on the, on, on your watch.
18:38:03 Right.
18:38:04 That'll remove not only that app from your watch that'll remove not only that app from your watch, but it'll also remove any storage that is using, so if you don't want photos on your watch, then just remove the photos, not for not don't remove it.
18:38:17 Off your watch, then just remove the photos. Not for not. Don't remove it off your phone.
18:38:17 Right! Alright!
18:38:19 Yes.
18:38:19 Remove it. Apple one. That list all the things that are on your watch.
18:38:23 Just get rid of it. I got.
18:38:22 Right. Apparently. That's not an option, though.
18:38:27 Actually it is, you can say whether in not you want it to sync photos and anything else.
18:38:34 Really, you can go through.
18:38:33 Right well, like I did try turning that off and still getting the message, and.
18:38:38 It's probably something else that it's using. It's probably something else that's using storage email.
18:38:47 I don't.
18:38:45 Messages, can have photographs in there, and regular messages, and just all kinds of apps, that you may not be using.
18:38:57 Hmm!
18:38:53 There are some believe it or not, some games actually sync up to your watch, so just remove completely the ones that you never, ever, ever want to see.
18:39:01 Right.
18:39:01 In a while, and turn off the sync for things that you don't need to see on your on your watch photos tends not to be that bad like.
18:39:10 If I get a new photo it'll pop up on my phone.
18:39:15 Right.
18:39:15 But it doesn't try to on my watch, but it doesn't try and sync all of them.
18:39:18 It's just syncing the new ones.
18:39:21 Yeah, well, okay. I'll work on it.
18:39:27 Thanks.
18:39:31 I I would plug in my phone and show you.
18:39:34 But yeah, my, I was. I was making some changes, and I unplugged the cable that normally syncs to my phone.
18:39:44 Yeah.
18:39:42 And I don't feel like crawling around behind right the second to plug it back in.
18:39:52 Alright!
18:39:47 So just it's fairly easy to do. But it'll have a list of everything that anything that on your phone that can has an applet.
18:39:58 Bye!
18:39:57 It'll list them all, and most of those are not something you want.
18:40:01 Right.
18:40:01 Just get rid of them.
18:40:03 Okay.
18:40:06 Hmm!
18:40:12 Hmm!
18:40:06 The other thing that I should mention. You can also try restarting your watch every once in a while.
18:40:15 The watch, for whatever reason, has some clutter in it, and if you just restart it, it will.
18:40:23 It'll go back up. It'll go to whatever your current settings are, and say, Oh, you don't want that, and it's happy again.
18:40:30 Okay, that might work. I'll try that. Thanks.
18:40:37 And I am going to go up here and change something. Video.
18:40:45 Background.
18:40:46 I have a question, Lawrence.
18:40:49 Yes.
18:40:43 I see.
18:40:50 I got a new ipad, and you know, when I want to write somebody a message, a letter, or whatever I don't know where the period is to end the sentence on my ipad, it's got explanation.
18:41:06 Mark as a commas. Whatever. How do I get a period?
18:41:10 I feel dumb writing a letter when you can't put the period down the end of the.
18:41:14 Very true. There are 2 ways. Yes, there is a period. It's right.
18:41:17 Next should be right next to the comma. But the second thing is that if you press the spacebar twice real quick, it'll automatically put a period.
18:41:24 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
18:41:27 Since the typewriter is no longer used, you should never, ever, ever have 2 spaces.
18:41:33 After a period. So your ipad and your Mac, because it works on the Mac, too. If you type 2 spaces real quick, it'll just put a period there.
18:41:41 No!
18:41:41 Oh, thank God, okay, thank you very much.
18:41:45 It not only puts a period there, but it puts a space there, so you don't need a space, because it'll yeah.
18:41:48 Yeah, I just backup. I got it. Okay.
18:41:52 It saves a lot of believe it or not.
18:41:54 This is something that I should have known, because, you know, I'm a certified geek.
18:42:00 But my daughter taught me this. She can. She can type about a hundred 50 words a minute on her phone, and I don't not know how she does it.
18:42:08 I'm here. Okay.
18:42:10 It's genuinely frightening.
18:42:17 Yes.
18:42:15 So I have a question, yes, about which router I need when I update my home network to the gear that I bought last.
18:42:29 Thanksgiving weekend, and haven't installed yet.
18:42:34 They didn't have the rodder. I thought I needed, so I bought at Costco a net gear wifi 6 router ax, 5,400 and I'm going to be replacing what I what I have with a new macbook pro that I got that weekend and the HP laptop
18:42:58 then I got that weekend, and also then attaching my iphone that I was forced by Verizon to select the took precedence along with the second Gen.
18:43:18 Apple watch which I have been enjoying a lot, and it says something has just seemed to come up when I had to be on line.
18:43:27 So I've been limping a with a windows 10 HP.
18:43:32 Pavilion laptop. But I need to upgrade to my new equipment before the warranties.
18:43:42 And help packages. I paid for expire.
18:43:46 Okay. Well, that what was the original question?
18:43:48 Okay. The original call is, is the router that I bought usable with a Macbook.
18:43:58 Pro and an HP. Windows 11 laptop, and the exact distance is, it's a net year a x 5,400.
18:44:12 The answer to that is a Macbook and an and a iphone and an ipad pretty much.
18:44:19 We'll talk to a rock. Really, they don't.
18:44:22 They're very agnostic. So that's not really the issue.
18:44:26 The the the more basic question is, where do you get? Who do you get your Internet from?
18:44:32 Wave.
18:44:34 You get it from wave? Did wave supply you with a router.
18:44:44 Okay.
18:44:40 No, I have. They supplied me with a modem. But the router I've been using is a a time capsule, an apple, time, capsule.
18:44:51 Okay. The then the answer is basically you plug in your new router that you should have instructions for what the root password is.
18:45:02 Yeah.
18:45:02 A usually it's on the bottom of wherever the product description is.
18:45:07 It tells you what the password is you want to go in there, and you want to plug it in and then use your macbook because you bring up something like terminal, or so far X can use probably to use sorry bring up safari go to the address listed on the bottom you have a
18:45:24 router and type in the username and password that they have.
18:45:28 And then the very first thing you should do is change the password to something.
18:45:32 Non-obvious and by non obvious. It should not have your first name should not have your last name definitely, should not have your street address, but something like if you're found of daffodils.
18:45:43 Call it daffodil 27, because in 1927, at the great Daffodil Festival something tremendous.
18:45:49 Happened. Just make any difference what rationale you have, but you change the username and the password and you save that so that you know what it is.
18:46:01 And then from that point you just tell everything else. Go to the same address that your Mac went to, and that's your new router.
18:46:15 Yeah.
18:46:08 Oh! And that you you give the router a name that Mac went to, and that's your new router. Oh, and that you give the router a name like it'll probably be called something like net gear, or something rather and call it you know, pretty posies, or on my daughter when she went
18:46:21 to the University of Maryland as freshman. I had her name, her router control alt delete asterisk period asterisk, which is the windows command to erase everything, and people after routouter alone, because they didn't know why it was named that but they were
18:46:39 hesitant to try and use it so change the username and password name the route, or something other than what it came with out of the box, and then just tell your other devices to use it.
18:46:52 But the way in which your laptop, your windows, laptop your Mac, laptop, your iphone, all of those things.
18:47:04 Talk to Wi-fi, basically the same way where it gets in.
18:47:17 Yeah.
18:47:08 Where are you? Get into trouble sometimes? If wave gave you a router and you add another router to it, you end up with something called double network address translation, a double netting which sounds yaki, and it will.
18:47:27 It doesn't hurt anything, but it slows you down.
18:47:30 Okay.
18:47:32 Denise!
18:47:36 Hi, Denise, do you have your iphone with you?
18:47:40 Yes, I'm playing with it.
18:47:41 I wish just thinking you might be. I had the same problem with the apps on my watch, and so if you go in on your phone, open the apple watch.
18:47:52 Right. I'm there.
18:47:53 Yeah, and then scroll a little bit further down and then go to App store.
18:48:01 Right.
18:48:05 Right.
18:48:02 And then it says, automatic dials, automatic update.
18:48:08 I turned that automatic downloads off so that.
18:48:13 It is off!
18:48:10 Yeah, that's spin off. Yeah, yes, it is. And I have no music in here whatsoever.
18:48:19 And the photo thing is, I read online, there's no way to actually turn it off.
18:48:27 Bye!
18:48:24 But you can limit the number of photos. So I selected an album that has nothing in it, and.
18:48:29 Well, you can go. Actually, one of the options is photosynching. You could just turn that off.
18:48:34 Right? Yeah, I did that as well. I tried the other thing first.
18:48:38 But.
18:48:38 Can you tell me what was the what was your actual initial initial question about the apps on on the watch?
18:48:46 My watch keeps it, keeps saying storage is full.
18:48:51 Yeah, if you look at this, these are all. Oh, I lost it.
18:48:56 I've gone through everything again, and I have everything turned off that could be off.
18:48:59 Yeah, well, I don't know. I just I don't just turn them off.
18:49:08 Yeah.
18:49:03 I remove the ones that I don't want on my watch, and because even if, even if even if it's just sitting there, the app alone can use space, and some of them are greedier than others, so.
18:49:18 So how do you remove it? I don't see place that says you can remove it.
18:49:23 There's a whole list here.
18:49:25 Yeah. But if you if it, if you if you click on something like I have, Hilton honors, if you click on it, it says, show app on apple watch.
18:49:39 If and if you turn that so it's turned off, it won't show up on your apple watch.
18:49:43 Okay. Yeah.
18:49:45 You have to do it one at a time, which is?
18:49:47 Oh, I don't have any apps on my watch.
18:49:50 I have some listed, and it says, Install, but I've never installed them like Amazon.
18:49:55 Oh, yeah.
18:49:58 Music is listed there. It's like they're offering them, but I've never put them on.
18:50:02 Yeah, huh!
18:50:02 Huh? Well, in that case that's a different question. What I would do at that point then is, I'd try shutting down the watch.
18:50:11 Yeah, I did. I just did that. I haven't turned it back on yet.
18:50:14 Yeah, but that might. It might be that just, you know, Gremlins, or something.
18:50:20 So when I'll spell pardon.
18:50:20 Lawrence, my mom, go ahead. I have a question. Laurence.
18:50:24 Bye, yes.
18:50:27 How do I sync my phone to my computer that when I take a picture that it will show up in my computer?
18:50:36 Okay. The answer is, you can't. What you can do is you can sync your phone and your computer both to apple photos.
18:50:45 So when you through Icloud, so that when you take a picture on your phone it goes to Icloud, and then it automatically sinks.
18:50:53 Oh!
18:50:53 It syncs through the cloud. It doesn't sync it.
18:50:57 Oh, okay.
18:50:57 Don't talk to each other directly. There is a way to do it directly, but it's it's way.
18:51:01 Too much work, and nobody in the right mind would do it that way.
18:51:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's I'll try that. Thank you.
18:51:08 Yeah, you just go into icloud. You say, yes, you want to sync on both the Mac and on on the iphone.
18:51:15 Hi!
18:51:15 You say, sync photos, the icloud. And they say, okay.
18:51:19 Okay. Sounds good. Thank you.
18:51:29 Are there any other questions?
18:51:23 Awesome.
18:51:36 Yes.
18:51:38 Yes.
18:51:39 I I was on mute. I apparently had a breach in something through my hospital, and I must have had Mcphee.
18:51:52 And now they say that I need to have it again. Do I really need to?
18:51:59 Definitely, not.
18:52:02 That's kind of what I thought.
18:52:06 I'll give you a more complicated explanation on a Mac. You wouldn't.
18:52:14 Mac V. Does nothing other than slow your machine down.
18:52:17 It's less. It's. It's quite a bit less useful than the cat behind you.
18:52:23 So on a Mac. It's just not useful. It'll just slow your machine down on a windows machine quite often when you buy a windows machine it comes with Mcafee installed by default, and that yous usually like a 30 or 90 day complementary thing.
18:52:39 Well, I bought a new windows laptop last October, November, and it came with Mcafee, and I immediately disabled it, and it.
18:52:49 I get these warning messages that you know your times running out.
18:52:54 Are you gonna bring? Are you gonna upgrade?
18:52:56 And the answer was, No, I let it pass. Why? Because it used to be that windows security was pretty awful, but with windows 11 specifically and if you have a machine that comes with their new hardware based security, which not all loo windows machines.
18:53:14 Do but the one I bought specifically did Mcafee really doesn't do anything terribly useful, because on the Mac.
18:53:21 On a modern Mac are on an iphone or ipad.
18:53:25 Everything that you do on your iphone or your ipad goes through a security chip.
18:53:31 So if you talk to it, if you touch it, if something comes in from the outside, it all goes through that security Chip!
18:53:37 So if you talk to it, if you touch it, if something comes in from the outside, it all goes through that security chip and that security chip sanitizes things to so that bad things can't get in and apple periodically sends out invisible to you they send out updates to update the
18:53:49 security. Are the things that it checks for. Well, this proved such overwhelmingly effective that windows started doing the same thing.
18:53:59 And now on some, but not all windows. 11 machines they come with a security chip that works with windows to make sure that anything you type on the keyboard anything coming in over your ethernet or Wi-fi everything going in or out of your computer goes through the the security Chip and
18:54:19 that's far more effective than anything, Mccaffe could do for you, and on a Mac in particular, Mcafee does really nothing other than slow it down.
18:54:29 That's the only if if your Max too fast, I guess you could install Mcafee to slow it down, but otherwise it didn't deserve any port any purpose.
18:54:39 Thank you.
18:54:40 And if if you're really interested in Mcafee, this has nothing to do with the software, but it has a lot to do with where the name comes from.
18:54:47 Do an Internet search on Mcafee. You will find he's an interesting guy.
18:54:55 Interesting is. And you you're really glad that he's not living in the same country.
18:55:01 You are. He's.
18:55:02 He's dead, isn't he?
18:55:05 He might be. That's unconcerned.
18:55:07 Hmm!
18:55:08 Oh!
18:55:11 Yes.
18:55:10 I have a question concerning messenger, and when I like to get texts on my phone and send them from my iphone, I also haven't ipad and an imap.
18:55:23 And the message messages show up on those you know on those on my machine.
18:55:30 All those machines, and I don't want them, and I, if I delete them on the phone, they're not deleted on the computer or the iphone.
18:55:40 So I'm thinking, maybe I just should delete the apps on the computer.
18:55:46 The messenger app on the computer and the messenger app on the iphone.
18:55:50 Or ipad, but I'm not actually sure.
18:55:54 Why would you delete the messenger at?
18:55:55 Well, it's why I use it mostly for texting with my iphone.
18:56:01 But the dialogue shows up on my computer. And if I delete messages on the iphone they're not deleted on the computer or the ipad, and it's laborious.
18:56:14 Okay, you can on your IP, on your, on your IP, on your ipad and your Mac.
18:56:24 You can go into messages and say, just like I explained earlier that you just don't want it to be.
18:56:29 You don't want messages that were sent on your phone to appear on your ipad you don't list your phone number on your ipad.
18:56:37 So, if if it's being sent to your phone number, it just won't.
18:56:41 If it's being sent from your phone, it won't appear on your IP because you just get rid of the phone number on on your, on your Mac or on your ipad.
18:56:52 Yeah, but you can.
18:56:52 If you're sending it to your Mac address, yes, it's going to show up on all of them, and you really can't delete messenger, because Apple will just apple.
18:57:03 Will object to that.
18:57:04 Okay. Alright!
18:57:06 But you can't sync all 3, so that when you delete them on one, it delete them on all of them, too.
18:57:12 To seek them to the cloud your messages and and they go there, and when you delete them off one, it delete some of everything the same thing with the mail.
18:57:25 Oh, okay.
18:57:27 You have to turn it on sync, though.
18:57:31 Okay.
18:57:34 Thank you.
18:57:36 And I made a boom.
18:57:45 Bye!
18:57:53 I made a sign in list tonight to for the meeting, but I don't appear to have set myself a link, and since that's in another account right now, I can't.
18:58:07 I don't have access to it, so shame on me!
18:58:14 Hey? Well, such as life!
18:58:22 Let's see. Have one quick question left and then we're going to start the meeting.
18:58:28 Anybody have a quick question?
18:58:31 Okay.
18:58:34 Okay.
18:58:29 Yes, I do. It's an iphone question. I've been powering down the phone, turning it off before I connect the cable and plug the charger into the wall.
18:58:53 When I plug it into the wall it starts up again, so I wait until I see the home screen, and then I followed down again.
18:58:59 I'm I'm sorry I my screen froze so I didn't hear any of your question.
18:59:04 Oh, I'm sorry. Charging my iphone. I'm I'm assuming it's best to do it.
18:59:14 When the phone is off, so I turned it off, power it down, plug it into the cable, plug the charger into the wall, whereupon it starts up again.
18:59:29 No!
18:59:27 Yeah, it. There's no reason to turn it off. No.
18:59:36 Thank you.
18:59:37 Yeah, there's no reason to turn it off. There is, however, if you go into, I don't remember where it's called.
18:59:31 Recording, your homework.
18:59:48 If you go to the what's it called screen time.
18:59:54 Yeah, I don't remember how to set it, but on your phone you can set it so that you don't want it to accept phone calls after 10 pm.
19:00:05 Hmm!
19:00:04 And you don't want phone numbers. Phone calls before 7 Am.
19:00:08 The phone is still on and you'll still get messages from people in your preferred list like, you know, relatives, and so on and so forth, or you'll get 9.
19:00:20 Okay.
19:00:18 1 one calls, but you won't get the rest of them, so there's really no reason to turn it off.
19:00:23 In just as a another fy for those of you who don't know if you're someplace that like an airplane, and you want to, and you need to put it in an airplane mode, you might notice that you're battery lasts a lot longer and that trick works on
19:00:40 other things, other places as well. So if you want to have your phone useful, but you don't want to use of a bunch battery life, just put it in airplane mode, and you can still use your phone.
19:00:51 Useful. But you don't want to use of a bunch of battery life. Just put it in airplane mode, and you can still.
19:00:54 Chris, if you're Chris, if you're worried about the battery, the life and the wear and tear on of charging in your battery settings, you can go under optimize battery charging, and that if that's a concern I.
19:01:08 Alright. No, yeah. I'm worried about static electricity and the so thunderstorm that they keep saying we're gonna get one of yeah.
19:01:21 Oh, I see. Oh, okay, well, and then there's that clean energy charging.
19:01:26 I could care less about clean energy charging. So I have a turned off.
19:01:31 But I'm certainly glad that I learned what that is, so that I when I wanna charge my phone, when I wanna charge my phone, not when they tell me about the whole footprint and the carbon.
19:01:44 Okay.
19:01:41 But you can. There is that setting also. I don't know if you can see it at the bottom, for that clean energy charging.
19:01:48 So if you're phones not charging fast enough like you think it should be, I highly suggest turning that off do you know what I'm talking about?
19:01:57 Yeah.
19:01:58 Lauren, yeah. Okay.
19:02:00 I only charge it in the it. Mine charges fairly quickly, so I don't care.
19:02:06 Not a problem.
19:02:07 Yeah. But it had defaulted on on one of the last updates.
19:02:13 Hmm!
19:02:11 And it turned it on, and you physically have to go in and turn it off for it to not have that clean energy charging.
19:02:18 Well, they can charge all at once to at night, and that's when cleaning energy charging in effect.
19:02:24 So I don't care. It works fine for me. I do not have a sign-in sheet which I, which is a shame because I actually made one, but I didn't send myself a link to it.
19:02:40 So I madam President, would you like to say anything before we start the program?
19:02:44 No!
19:02:43 No welcome, everybody. No, I don't really have anything other than welcome, and thanks for being here.
19:02:53 Treasure has a short report. But yeah, it's not a big one, either, but we had one more, remember, who sent the Jews?
19:03:07 One was in April. No, yeah. April, and one.
19:03:10 This month. So we have 2 more, which that our total now is $2,147 and 90 cents.
19:03:20 Okay.
19:03:21 And there's no expense.
19:03:23 Actually there is, but I probably haven't said it.
19:03:25 Yeah, no, I haven't received it yet.
19:03:28 Yeah, before I get to the tonight's presentation, which is on upgrading.
19:03:39 And if I asked people what they wanted to have as a meeting topic this month, and I got some suggestions.
19:03:49 But I got a whole bunch more questions from people who wanted to know about upgrading before I get to that.
19:03:54 There are some other things not having anything to do with an upgrading that I wanted to tell you about, and I'm going to share my screen.
19:04:01 So that.
19:04:09 That we can.
19:04:13 So I can show you some of this stuff.
19:04:20 The first thing is that I one reason why people were concerned about upgrading is they might get new things.
19:04:30 Apple is having their worldwide Developer Conference 23.
19:04:34 It starts on June fifth. What the Worldwide Developer Conference is is Apple's.
19:04:42 It's for developers. They teach you new programming techniques, new programming technologies, different ways to use the cloud algorithms of things that the worldwide developer Conference.
19:04:55 And they also have, among other things, a student competition. So they have the students.
19:05:01 Some is last year one of the winners was 6 years old who've written programs for Max or iphones, or whatever, and they have this as a conference.
19:05:12 So that's at the Worldwide Developer Conference on the very first day, June fifth, at 100'clock, Pacific time, because this is on the Pacific Coast.
19:05:23 They have the keynote. The keynote, traditionally, has also been a time when they announce new products.
19:05:31 The new products can be new operating systems. The new products can be new services.
19:05:09 This, for example.
19:05:35 The new products can be new computers. This spring apple was very quiet about introducing new computers and everything else.
19:05:46 The only thing that I can call off the top of my head is they?
19:05:49 They introduced a green iphone, but they haven't made any other big announcements.
19:05:56 So there's a possibility that they will. They will denounce some new technology.
19:06:01 But the worldwide Developer Conference also tells developers what current technology is not going to be supported by future operating systems.
19:06:11 So the world Wide Developer Conference is worth paying attention to, and the keynote, at least, is in English rather than in technicalies.
19:06:27 The other thing I wanted to mention is something that is, that Apple has stopped doing because the the covid, the pandemic emergency, was notification has expired.
19:06:49 You might have received a notice on your phone that said that the Covid Alerts are no longer taking place, and since we lived in Maryland before we moved here, we got a notice from both the State of Washington as well as Maryland, that they're not going to be sending out any
19:07:13 covid alerts because the State's no longer tracking it, and you can go back into your phone if you want to, and push this little button that says Delete all exposure data.
19:07:24 It probably has nothing there for you, because it probably from on average, most people get anything.
19:07:33 But you can go in and get rid of that if you're wondering why those things have been popping up, it's because the Covid Emergency is sufficient.
19:07:40 Oh, guess what I did find the sign in Sheen.
19:07:46 So!
19:07:50 You can't escape. I'm going to type it in here.
19:07:59 Here's the sign in form, and I'm gonna stick it in the chat, too, because it's probably more useful.
19:08:03 There where you can click on it if you could. Please go in and type in your name, your email address, and your first name and your last names.
19:08:14 People are trying to get strange. And say, Phil doesn't really tell me who you are.
19:08:21 So please your first name and your last name.
19:08:25 Oh!
19:08:30 Here's the chat!
19:08:25 Huh! And it's in the chat window if you oh, I sent it to the wrong perfect!
19:08:37 How's that now? It shows up?
19:08:39 Here it is!
19:08:40 Hmm!
19:08:44 A thing that won't affect any of you, but it's dear to my heart.
19:08:50 The first apple store anywhere open in Tyson's Corner.
19:08:54 And it's been closed for several months, and it's going to be reopening and it's going to be opening on May nineteenth.
19:09:02 So if you happen to be in the DC. Area on May nineteenth, the apple type, the original apple store is at Tyson's Corner, which is just south of well, actually, it's more west of DC.
19:09:17 In Virginia, so I told some people to go take pictures and movies, and I would distribute them to the world.
19:09:26 But when the original store opened up, Kathleen and I and my daughter, we are all went there.
19:09:34 My daughter was oh, she was in middle school. We all went there.
19:09:41 The line went through every floor of the shopping center, and it's a huge shopping center.
19:09:47 Every floor, they shopping center the entire length of the Mall, so wrapped around and around it was about a mile long, but it was indoors, which was good because it was a hot day, and this re grand reopening is going to be exactly as same day, as the original opening it's going
19:10:05 to be a May nineteenth, so if you happen to be in the DC area, that's something you can do and something else that I want to know.
19:10:15 If people are interested in doing, I'm not doing this.
19:10:20 This is done by Washington apple pie, which is, I'm still a member of.
19:10:24 I'm still an officer. In fact, Washington apple pie is for the Washington, DC.
19:10:29 Area. So it covers DC. Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, and Delaware.
19:10:36 On May at their main meeting, which is next Saturday.
19:10:42 David Pogue, who's a former New York Times columnist, and he wrote lots of Macbooks.
19:10:50 He's going to be doing a presentation via Zoom on artificial intelligence.
19:10:54 And what that means for the average person. David is one of these people who is a legend in his own mind, but he's still very entertaining, and if you wanted to, if you want to participate in this one thing, you need to remember is that this is on the East coast.
19:11:13 So 10 a M is gonna be 7 A. M. Our time.
19:11:15 But if you are interested in going, give me your send me an email to send me an email just saying that you're interested in going.
19:11:25 And I'll have you added to the list of people that they add for the meeting, and I'll send I'll put this link in the chat as well.
19:11:35 So you can go read about it. David is an interesting character, and you've heard a lot of news stories about artificial intelligence.
19:11:49 David's not really an expert on it, but he'll be more entertaining than most of the news reports.
19:11:57 And one last thing is that I want to talk about is.
19:12:04 An article talking about why you should be really careful about getting strange things, because several cyber criminal gangs are trying to develop a version of ransomware that works with Macs right now, ransomware doesn't work with Macs it basically targets.
19:12:25 Just windows, machines. And they're trying really, really hard to develop one that works with Max.
19:12:31 They've been not been successful. But, generally speaking, the way to protect yourself from ransomware is, don't accept email messages from people you don't know and definitely don't click on links that you're not familiar with and the first part of my demonstration has nothing to do with
19:12:49 my demonstration, it's going to be a new product.
19:12:52 Called Little Snitch, Little Snitch, Mini, little Snitch, Mini.
19:12:58 You can download for free and.
19:13:03 I'm going to launch it. So you can see what it looks like.
19:13:08 This is a map and done with little Snitch.
19:13:14 Of since I've booted the machine. These are all the things that I've either loaded, either directly or indirectly.
19:13:21 So safari right now, if I click on safari.
19:13:24 Is talking to all these places out here. If you're losing safari, Mac OS talks to these things.
19:13:31 Creative cloud talks to this. This is another part of creative cloud and course.
19:13:38 Sync talks to Virginia, and I'll give you kind of a brief overview of how to read this Zoom talks to United States and Virginia, which seems kind of strange.
19:13:48 You'll notice that it doesn't list. It doesn't list Washington State, and that's where we are.
19:13:55 What it's doing is that I originally set up my Mac accounts when I lived in Maryland, so a lot of services still think I live in Maryland, even though I don't, and Amazon has a huge server farm in Virginia, one of the largest ones.
19:14:13 They have is in Virginia because of the Federal Government being a book, big user of Amazon services.
19:14:19 So zoom uses Amazon as a backbone.
19:14:23 And so it says, Okay, if you're using zoom, then you're talking to the data server in the Amazon data server in Virginia, and also to probably other data service in the United States, Mac OS has all kinds of different things that it talks to including if you scroll over
19:14:41 here place in Japan exactly what that thing is. You have to pay for the non-free version in order to find out.
19:14:49 But if you ever want to know what your computer does when it's doing various things, this will tell you what service are talking to to like Amazon photos again uses Amazon servers.
19:15:02 So it gives you United States and Virginia. Little snitch is free.
19:15:08 It is not free. If you want to be able to block things.
19:15:13 That's a paid service, and there's really it's a bad idea to block things, because unless you're a techie you'll block something that's you find out that you really need.
19:15:23 So it's not a good idea to block things.
19:15:25 Why does little Snitch think your network is out over the Atlantic?
19:15:30 It does that because it doesn't have a specific place.
19:15:34 So it just tosses you someplace, and since it thinks I'm living in on the East Coast, it uses the Atlantic as kind of the big bin of things that he doesn't know about.
19:15:48 So that's I mean, that's not a great answer.
19:15:47 Okay.
19:15:52 But that's why it does it that way when you're thinking about doing an upgrade of any domain.
19:15:57 One of thing that you should look at is Mac Tracker Mac Tracker is an application.
19:16:04 You can. You can download it for both your Mac or for Ios, so you can have it on your iphone or your ipad, and it's it's free.
19:16:13 It's if you look at the address, it's by it's up in Canada.
19:16:18 The guy who did this has been doing this since.
19:16:24 I'm not sure. At least 20, probably.
19:16:27 A long time.
19:16:29 Yeah, probably 2530 years, a long time. It was originally done as a file maker database, and he was.
19:16:38 He would distribute this file maker database to user groups, and then he created his own app and to show you what the app looks like, I will bring it up.
19:16:48 And.
19:16:51 This is backtracking, and it's the zoom bars.
19:16:59 Tidiness so it's hard for me to see.
19:17:01 But you basically can look at almost any kind of Mac ever.
19:17:07 And it'll tell you about them. And actually even pre-s like the apple one was produced between 1976 and 1977, apple I, 77 to 79.
19:17:20 So on, so forth, and when it comes to Macs, the classic Mac came out in January, 1984, and they produced until 1985, and so and so forth.
19:17:32 And it also includes things like Wi-fi things.
19:17:37 How old is your wife? Your airport, base station, or time capsule like, for example, a lot of people still have one of these flat airport time capsules.
19:17:53 But you'll notice that the last airport time capsule of those flat ones, those produced in June 2,013, which is a long time ago, and a lot of people that say, Oh, my! Mac, isn't that old?
19:18:06 I just bought a few years ago, and they check this. And they find out that it's they've actually had it a really long time.
19:18:10 It also includes things like Apple TV. There have been several models of that macbooks, ibooks, phones, where the phones, iphones, all kinds of iphones.
19:18:24 If you have a Newton, I'm surprised, but they include that scanners pretty much everything apple ever made, and they have recently added this for software.
19:18:37 But the software is not listed under software. Still, if you go to a like, the Macbook, it tells you what version of the software that and they let's go with a Macbook air first version, the Macbook air and the software is the last version of the Mac OS that could use.
19:18:58 Was Mac OS. 10.7 point 5. So it's a good way to find out how current your machine is.
19:19:07 It'll tell you what your capabilities were, how much memory could take, how much, what kind of story space, it had all kinds of stuff.
19:19:16 But and the important thing for most people is the operating system.
19:19:21 So if you have a macbook air, and it's the retina inversion from 2,018, can you run a current operating system?
19:19:30 And it says, Yes, you can run the latest version of the operating system, but every time Apple releases a new operating system, some of the some of their machines fall off the list, and I highly recommend it to get this pre utility when you're thinking about upgrading your phone, or
19:19:51 your ipad, or your Mac, because it tells you whether or not you really need to.
19:19:58 And if your machine is not supported, so, for example.
19:20:04 Mine!
19:20:07 Actually this says that 2,014, it's supported.
19:20:11 I'm surprised. Yeah, 2,013, too. But you'll see that a lot of machines are not supported.
19:20:20 Now the reason why this is an issue is that if you're machine is not supported, it doesn't get those quiet updates that I was telling you about that apple pushes out and it doesn't get security updates.
19:20:34 And that's bad, because where every time Apple releases a new operating system that not only gives you the potential to have new goodies, for example, recent version of the operating system allows me to essentially control, my Mac, using my Iphone and my ipad which is kind of
19:20:54 cool. So you have new capability. But it also tells hackers what has been fixed.
19:21:03 So there was a security problem with this, and we fixed it.
19:21:07 Well, that tells these hackers that if they go attacking machines that have older operating systems, they're probably still vulnerable.
19:21:16 So anytime there's a new operating system, it's good if you're supported, but it's not so great.
19:21:22 If you're not supported. And Mac Tracker again is is free.
19:21:26 So that's the the first thing you should think about in terms of in terms of your do you need a do you need a upgrade?
19:21:36 You might have other reasons for wanting to upgrade.
19:21:37 You want more space, you want more power, or whatever. But the the from my point of view, if your machine's not supported, that's bad.
19:21:48 If you think about your phone, for example, is your phone a security risk?
19:21:56 And the answer is, Well, the your phone has photographs that you've taken.
19:22:00 Those are highly personal. It's got the names of your contacts that's highly personal.
19:22:05 I've even seen some people who did their income tax on their phone, which I think is a terrible idea.
19:22:11 That's really personal. But there is probably somewhere on your phone.
19:22:16 Are your bank accounts are your is your social security number a whole bunch of stuff that you probably don't even know.
19:22:23 It's there I got a legal document from the State of Washington about 3, 4 weeks ago, and they did something really, really stupid.
19:22:35 They sent me a Pdf. Of a record that they had of me, and in the Pdf.
19:22:40 Was my social security number, they're not supposed to do that.
19:22:44 That's really bad. But since I opened it on my phone, that means that from my phone somebody could have access to my social security number.
19:22:53 So it's not necessarily what you're keeping safe.
19:22:57 It's also what other people are keeping safe, because people can do stupid things with.
19:23:03 With your data, the A, I got a security alert from saying that they had.
19:23:13 They had a third party contractor had accidentally exposed records for 25 million customers, both current and former customers.
19:23:26 And what did these people get? What did the hackers get?
19:23:30 They got all kinds of things that are no longer relevant.
19:23:33 They did not get credit card numbers. That wasn't part of the record, but they got addresses, and they got names, and so on and so forth.
19:23:41 But the important thing was they also got my phone number. Well, you can.
19:23:46 Now, when you move, keep your phone number. So my phone number, which hasn't changed since year 2,000 or something.
19:23:56 And I'm no longer on because of this exposure.
19:24:01 I'm getting spam because they went through, and all the phone numbers that they got in this data breach.
19:24:09 They're now spamming, and that's not cool so you have a lot of personal information on your phone that you may not realise and keeping that safe is important.
19:24:23 In terms of the that's where is the phone I was just playing with that a second ago.
19:24:29 It's right here of the current phones out there.
19:24:31 Now you notice the original iphone came out in 2,007, pretty much everything before the the very first version of the iphone from the from the iphone, Essie on back.
19:24:45 I would say, is obsolete, and you probably need to replace it if it's an iphone 7 or 8, I would probably replace it, even though some of those are still supported.
19:24:58 They cannot support some of the functions that people talk about when they talk about using an iphone, about the furthest back that I would say that people don't need to replace.
19:25:09 Huh!
19:25:09 If you have an iphone. 10. The iphone 10 was also the first one that had the security chip inside of it that sanitizes input so from the iphone, 10 on forward, you're probably in good shape but if you have an Iphone earlier than those you probably want to think about replacing
19:25:28 them with Max. It's a little bit more difficult, because there's macbook errors and Macbook pros and all kinds of stuff.
19:25:34 But as an example, I had a oh, what was it?
19:25:43 I had it early. Iphone a macbook. Let's see, is this thing supported? Nope.
19:25:52 That one isn't. It's one that was supported.
19:25:54 But I don't remember exactly which one it was. I had a Macbook, not a macbook error Macbook, just a Macbook.
19:26:05 And I ended up giving it to somebody, because it was much too slow for the kind of things that I needed to do.
19:26:14 And so that was, that was an obvious reason for having an upgrade.
19:26:17 It was too slow, but you might have other reasons, like, for example, if your Macbook is the only computer that you have, and you bought it, thinking that 256 gig drive was adequate.
19:26:30 And then you find out it's all full, because you actually have a lot more stuff than you thought.
19:26:34 Then you might want to upgrade it, not because of the performance, but because of the storage.
19:26:40 But keep in mind with Macs, both laptops and with desktops you can have external drives.
19:26:47 This thing up here that says Maple, that is my built-in drive on my Mac, and it's called Maple, because I was looking at my red maple when I got the machine.
19:26:59 So I named it Maple Gifu Canto, and Imamato.
19:27:06 Our external drives, and they're connected into my computer using a USB cable.
19:27:12 Well, actually, it's a thunderbolt for, but it looks like a USB Cable.
19:27:18 So all of this storage, which is a huge amount of storage.
19:27:21 This is, I don't know. 50 TB worth of story is external, and this thing that says time travel is yet another drive, and I wish I hadn't done that because it too it takes forever to come open.
19:27:37 But this is my backup drive, and it's it's a solid state drive that I brought.
19:27:44 John Amazon for $99, and I use it to back stuff up.
19:27:49 And why, did I buy a solid state drive? Because I used to back this up wirelessly and was taking too long.
19:27:57 So for 99 bucks. This is a Usbc solid state drive, and it's external to my machine.
19:28:05 So I'm not limited to just the space on my machine.
19:28:08 I can plug in another drive, and I'm not limited to just the space on my machine.
19:28:12 I can plug in another drive, and I'm in good shape for a laptop that this could be a problem, though, because if you really do care, your laptop with you, then, having it carrying around an external drive might be a pain, so when you're thinking about upgrading a
19:28:25 laptop things that you should think about, how much, how much, RAM do you want?
19:28:32 The most of the Macbooks come with a minimum of 8 GB, but I would recommend that you get 16 simply because you cannot upgrade any of Apple's current laptops.
19:28:48 All of the all of the memory and all of the storage, everything is on one chip.
19:28:53 So what you buy is all of the memory and all of the storage. Everything is on one chip, so what you buy is what you're stuck with.
19:28:57 And if you think 8 gigs is enough, and then someday you find out you need 10.
19:29:01 You'll be on happy, and some of the Macbooks come from with as little as 256 GB worth of space.
19:29:10 But again, photographs and things take up a lot of room, so I would probably go.
19:29:14 I would probably recommend that you have at least half a gig or a half a terabyte, or a full terabyte for storage.
19:29:23 So that's memory and storage, and the third thing that you should think about is the speed.
19:29:29 And it's a little bit confusing now, because with the new M.
19:29:33 2 chips. The M. 2 chips are faster than the M.
19:29:37 One chips, except that the M. One chip in my desktop machine here is actually faster than most of the M.
19:29:44 2 chips in the newer machines. So it gets a little bit confusing.
19:29:47 But the 3 things to worry about are how much memory, how much storage, and how fast the machine and the fast almost any machine apple has it's gonna be fine for doing email for writing notes and so on.
19:30:03 So forth, where the speed is much more important, is, if you do a lot of photography, I just spent the last week scanning prints, a photographic prints.
19:30:15 I scanned 9,800 photographic prints and those take up a lot of room and to display them and sort through them takes a fair amount of host power.
19:30:27 Also, if you do video editing, the horsepower is important, but for everyday things, like writing notes, doing text messaging, surfing the web, the horsepower is not that important?
19:30:38 It's it's important for other things. But those are the things to think about.
19:30:42 When you're talking about desktop machines right now for desktop apple has imacs these new M.
19:30:52 One Imax. You can go see one at Costco.
19:30:56 They have the Mac Mini, the new Mac Mini.
19:31:00 Oh, there's an M. One Mac Mini, that I don't recommend. People have.
19:31:04 I have one, but it's for what I use. It's perfect fine.
19:31:09 But the new em, 2 Mac mini is much, much more more powerful, and then they have the Mac studio and the Mac studio has a big hunting chicken chip inside, and is really blindingly fast, except that the new Mac Mini it for most purposes, is almost as fast as the
19:31:30 studio, although I should say it's just as faster, faster!
19:31:35 The one exception is, if you're doing video editing the Mac studio is really hard to beat.
19:31:40 So your choices are the Imac, the Max duty, or the Mac Mini.
19:31:46 A couple of things to note. If you buy a Mac Mini or Mac studio, you're also going to need a keyboard mouse.
19:31:53 And display, since they don't come with that. If you get an imac, you get everything in one box.
19:32:01 One thing that I tell people, because a lot of people I see buying laptops that they don't need laptops.
19:32:07 If you never, ever, ever, ever carry your machine with you. The Mac Mini and the Imac are more powerful and they're less money.
19:32:19 Than a laptop, laptops, because everything's crammed into a small space.
19:32:24 They're more expensive. So if you don't need to carry it, don't buy a macbook error or macbook. Pro, just stick with the Mac mini or Max studio.
19:32:39 Uhhuh, or an Imac, and I gotta turn this off for a second, so I can see people with it if they have questions.
19:32:51 Do you have questions about any of that?
19:32:59 Would you repeat what you suggested for a minimum memory or maximum memory and storage and speed?
19:33:15 Okay.
19:33:06 I didn't mention. I didn't mention speed, because speed is entirely there are too many factors for the minimum amount of memory that Max right now they all will come with at least 8 GB.
19:33:20 My recommendation is not to go with the minimum to go to 16, and the reason is that you cannot add more later on, so you might as well get 16 right from the start with some of them you can get 32 GB unless you're doing something really weird that's more than you really need
19:33:38 there's very few people that have a need for something like that.
19:33:41 So that makes sense for storage. You can get on some machines as little as 200, and 56 GB.
19:33:48 That's one quarter of a terabyte.
19:33:51 I would recommend at least half a terabyte, which is 500 GB or a terabyte.
19:33:59 The one machine that I bought with half a terabyte.
19:34:03 I I filled fairly quickly, and it's entirely possible that my dear spouse laughed uproariously when this happened, because she told me not to do it.
19:34:15 But again, you can't upgrade them. Once you buy them, you can add on external memory, but you can't add anything inside of the box because the chip is just one giant thing which is one reason why the things are why the machines are so fast the more you can cram onto
19:34:33 the ship, the faster it runs. Some things that you want.
19:34:41 Notice. You'll hear people talking about the speed of the M.
19:34:43 One chip with the apple's silicon. M.
19:34:47 One chip versus the M. 2, chip, the M.
19:34:49 2 chip is faster with the unless you're doing video editing.
19:34:54 And then the I am one super pro max, whatever they call the chip in their back studio is actually faster, because it has more video processing.
19:35:03 Specialized video processing chips. So if you're editing video, that's why people like the Max studio because it makes it much.
19:35:12 It makes it easier to deal with if you're not doing video editing.
19:35:16 Or if the video editing you're doing is just editing a quick time video to throw up, or something like that, it doesn't make any difference.
19:35:22 Your, your phone probably has enough horsepower for doing that.
19:35:28 But if you're doing video like I do, I do the video for the church.
19:35:32 It definitely helps to have the extra horsepower to do that sort of stuff, but they for most purposes the new Macbook pro with the Mt.
19:35:44 Chip the macbook air with the M 2, chip the Mac Mini with the Mq.
19:35:49 Chip. That's more than enough to keep you happy.
19:35:53 At least one person told me that they were waiting for Apple to come up with a 27 inch Imac before they upgraded to a new Imac, and I've heard a lot of people say this, but if you've never actually played with the M.
19:36:10 One Imac, that they have on display down at Costco you should go down and play with it.
19:36:16 They're really, really, quite, quite sharp.
19:36:19 And people say, well, the screen's smaller well, and 800 pixels, 800 pixels is how large a piece sheet of paper is, and a sheet of paper is 800 pixels across, and the Imac that they should have at costco that you can go by tomorrow has a its screen
19:36:44 Okay.
19:36:39 is 1,400 pixels apart across. So really, why do you need a 27 inch, Mac?
19:36:48 That it's a 24 inch. I'mac, and it's for most mortals it's gonna be perfectly fine, and if there the Imac comes in 2 different models another month, the higher end model actually you can plug an extra discount in it it so if you
19:37:08 wanted to. You could have 2 displays, one built into your Imac and an ex separate display.
19:37:15 Speaking of displays. That's something that you can also add it is an external display to your to the Mac Mini.
19:37:21 To the back studio and to the laptops as well.
19:37:26 Via the the studio, and Mac Mini think, okay, you need to add a display to it, but you can add more than one if you really wanted to.
19:37:37 I saw somebody had a they had. I don't remember who made it lg, or something.
19:37:44 It's it's a ultra wide screen.
19:37:47 It's 56 inches across, and he had 2 of them hooked up to his Mac studio, and I was making fun of him because in this video you can tell he can't really see them both at once.
19:37:59 He has to swim around in order to see them, so I thought it was kind of silly, but if you wanted to, you could do that.
19:38:12 Any other questions?
19:38:12 What's your take on apple refurbished equipment?
19:38:16 Oh, I I'm glad you mentioned that because I was gonna talk about that.
19:38:21 And I gotta turn on screen sharing so I can show people what we're talking about.
19:38:41 Okay, apple has this site. And if you just copy type in apple refurbished, that comes up in Google, so you don't have to remember what the page is.
19:38:51 But if you click on something like Max, what what refurbished machines they have!
19:38:58 It'll list the kinds of refurbish machines that they have 2 things to note about.
19:39:03 This, the the same stipulations having to do with memory, and so on, so forth.
19:39:10 You apply for the furbish ones.
19:39:12 Sometimes people will turn in referbish machines because they bought the machine without enough memory or without enough hard drive space, and so they return it to apple and apple resells it, and the nice thing is that apple resells it with a full warranty so if you get it it
19:39:30 if you get a refurbish machine for apple, it usually comes with a.
19:39:33 There are some exceptions, for the most part, though they come over the one year warranty, and so like this.
19:39:39 This refurbished 24 inch mic, with 8 core CPU.
19:39:42 7, core Gpu, 1,099 in green, and you save 200 bucks, and if you click on it, it's says that it's got 8 GB worth of memory and 256 GB of storage and if you may recall
19:40:01 that I just said that wasn't recommended. So they do have good prices, and they have full.
19:40:06 Guarantees, but you still need to be careful that you're getting something that has the the amount of move to it that you really want.
19:40:16 Other people have have, have refurbished machines, best buy.
19:40:25 Does that sometimes owc, computing, which the sense for other world computing sometimes has those so sol a lot of people have refurbishment.
19:40:34 How, however, something to note is that the the warranties on them are only through that vendor.
19:40:44 So, and their warranty might be 30 days, 90 days, 6 months, something like that.
19:40:51 It's not the same as apples, and if you need repairs or something fixed, you have to ship it back to best buy, or whoever it is that you bought it from. And I mentioned that as a as an issue, because how many of you old enough to have remembered comp U.S.A.
19:41:09 At the time that Comp. U.S.A. Went bankrupt they had 20 million dollars worth of computers that were owned by individuals in their shops for repair.
19:41:23 All of those were seized in the bankruptcy because, according to bankruptcy law, that computer doesn't belong to you.
19:41:33 You're now just another creditor of Comp. U.S.A.
19:41:37 So those people didn't get their computers back. And I met.
19:41:41 I'm not saying that I think Owc. Or best buy, is going to go out of business tomorrow, but they're a limitations.
19:41:48 It's not from apple and it's subject to whatever conditions that best buy and that other retailer has.
19:41:55 But there's a company called Gazelle, and lots of other companies sell refurbished machines.
19:42:00 There are some times that I actually recommend refurbish machines, particularly to people who are upgrading.
19:42:07 If you are upgrading your machine because your current machine doesn't work, then obviously, when you upgrade your going to have a new machine, but you might have some old game that you like don't run that old game.
19:42:21 If it's not compatible with your new machine on your new machine buy a refurbished machine and run it on that or your accounting program, or whatever it is that you insist that you that you have.
19:42:33 I see a lot of people retaining their computer way past the time they should have gotten rid of it, because they have some old program.
19:42:41 They went to run, and if it's not, if you're old computers, not safe, and if you can't run the current operating system, it's not safe.
19:42:50 You should get a new machine. And if you really want to run that old computer, then keep your old machine to run that old computer just disconnected from the Internet.
19:43:02 Almost a hundred percent of of computer compromises in this day and age.
19:43:07 Have to do with connecting your machine to the Internet. So it's not connected.
19:43:13 It's really hard for someone to hack it. There are exceptions.
19:43:16 There was a guy in port. Angeles lost a computer couple days ago because he left in in his car trunk, and when he slammed down the trunk of the car it bounced open.
19:43:27 He didn't notice, and somebody came along just relieved him of the computer.
19:43:31 It was in the trunk, but that's kind of a weird way to to get hacked.
19:43:36 But so if you have some old machine that have some old program that you insist on working it's just on using.
19:43:48 Then buy a refurbish machine to run it on, or just keep your old machine and run it on that, but don't connect that machine up to the Internet.
19:43:58 If you think about it today, you get your updates via the Internet, you get your email via the Internet, you can renew your driver's license.
19:44:12 I don't know about. Drive slash! You can renew your auto license over the Internet.
19:44:16 Almost everything goes over the Internet. You really want to make sure the machine you're doing that from is safe. And if if your machines way out of of currency with the operating system is probably unsafe, other questions.
19:44:34 Lawrence. There's a question in the chat from Charlotte.
19:44:41 Okay. I have a question from Charlotte.
19:44:49 Oh, as a photographer, I need a 27 inch eye back.
19:44:59 Okay, this, the question about the I'm gonna address the last part first.
19:45:05 How do I upgrade the OS when I am on Centurlink at 3 MB speed?
19:45:12 The answer is, that's a good question. I don't have.
19:45:14 I don't have a Pg. Related answer. There's almost nothing I can say about Centurylink.
19:45:23 That's Pg. My church had Centurylink, and when they put me in charge of their network within 30 days I had moved us off of Centurylink Centurylink.
19:45:37 The thing to note about Centurylink the link part they are willing to link you up to the outside world in the twentieth century.
19:45:43 But Centurylink doesn't know anything about the 20 first century.
19:45:47 I think, Steve, yeah, Steve's here.
19:45:51 Steve had a suggestion. That's not a bad one, which is that with some of our treasury maybe we can buy some USB drives and put updates on them so that people could borrow the flash drive and plug it into a machine and update their operating system from a from a
19:46:10 flash drive. That's probably the easiest way to upgrade your in, update your operating system.
19:46:18 If you're on Century Link, because it's terrible operating system.
19:46:25 So, in terms of the update, the easiest way to do that is to get it on a flash drive.
19:46:32 Someone suggested carrier computer to a friend's house and log on which is also a possibility as a photographer.
19:46:40 I need a 27 inch. Imac. Well, no, you need a 27 inch screen.
19:46:47 It doesn't have to be the machine, the screen that comes with the Imac.
19:46:51 If you get the higher end, Imac, you can plug in a second screen, and that point you have 2 screens I do that from my photography.
19:47:00 I'll have. I use lightroom to sort my photographs.
19:47:06 I have just hundreds of thousands of photographs, and I'll have the menus on one screen, and then the photograph that I'm actually working with on the other screen.
19:47:20 And the answer is, use 2 screens. You're not limited to one screen, and with some of the Macbooks you can even run multiple screens.
19:47:31 So it'll run that actually all of them will run multiple screens.
19:47:34 You've got the screen that it comes with, and you can have an external screen and and use that for your fine airbrushing, and so on, so forth, and have the menus on the other screen.
19:47:45 It's it's a it's a nice way to do it.
19:47:48 You don't have to have a 27 inch Imac, you can have a 24 inch Imac, and a separate screen.
19:47:54 If you really wanna go that way with the newest operating system for Ios for ipad OS, if you have one of the one of the ipads that support it, you can even use an ipad as a separate screen for your
19:48:11 Mac, so you can it's it's a way to use to actually draw something in Photoshop with a stylus on your Imac and see it on on your Mac.
19:48:21 It's really quite cool. I'm not an artist, so I don't ever want to expose you to my drawing of ability, but but you can do that.
19:48:31 You. You don't have to think of it as just.
19:48:33 I have to have a 27 inch, Imac, you're gonna have a 24 inch, Imac, and have a separate monitor wave favor.
19:48:44 Are they better than us down actually wave cable, and a sound of the same thing?
19:48:47 So astounded astoundingly. No better than wave cable.
19:48:53 I happen to be on wave, but I also tell you the trick, for that I use for wave.
19:49:00 I don't use wave for TV. I just use it for Internet service.
19:49:04 Our TV, we use Google TV. It allows me to get the local TV stations.
19:49:09 And I don't have to pay for everything else that wait once me to pay for.
19:49:17 Any other questions?
19:49:18 You mentioned that you look at a hard backup, hard drive, solid state for $99. Amazon!
19:49:25 I was wondering what what brand that was, and what the capacity is of that.
19:49:30 It is a toshiba, and it is 4 TB.
19:49:37 For $99, solid state.
19:49:39 Yes, it's a Usbc. It's not Thunderbolt, but for backup.
19:49:48 I see.
19:49:45 Usbc's plenty fast cause I don't really care.
19:49:51 Fine!
19:49:51 It's a lot faster than a rotating drive, so you know, I'm happy.
19:50:02 Yes.
19:49:56 That's okay. Thank you very much. You also mentioned that if you scanned ninthousand prints, what kind of standard are you using?
19:50:08 Okay, that's a complicated question that I wish is happening here.
19:50:13 Oh, that's a terrible! I don't want here to hear this, but it's one of these cases where I have to admit that Kathleen was right.
19:50:21 I have a perfectly good scanner that I we use for documents I had a whole bunch of publications, and so and so forth, that I typed in a typewriter.
19:50:30 Once upon a time. So I went and got a Fujitsu document scanner for scanning these documents so that I didn't have to transport him across the country.
19:50:40 I scan thousands of pages, and then I recycle the paper.
19:50:45 I tried doing that with photographs and the Fujitsu document.
19:50:48 K. Scanner says that it will scan photographs, but it really didn't do a great job, and so I wanted something that did a better job.
19:50:56 And this is an absentee photos a spell F, oo, something, and it's an automated thing. You can put.
19:51:07 It. You can put 50 photographic prints in it, press a button and it scans them as individual files.
19:51:15 6, 8, 0 one. Epson, Fx.
19:51:20 6 8 0 W. The Debian means wireless.
19:51:22 If would you say that again? Repeat that? F. Yeah.
19:51:25 Epson, Fx. 6, F. F. F. Okay. Epson, Ff.
19:51:36 6, 8, 0, W.
19:51:39 Okay, thank, you, yeah.
19:51:43 And it was highly recommended by a bunch of photographers.
19:51:46 And so I reluctantly spent money because it costs money.
19:51:50 I'm really cheap, but I scanned 10,000 pers in a week, and with the Fujitsu making really bad copies, I scanned a lot like 700 and a month, so I can't complain.
19:52:09 It's all of that. Photographs were at least their 20 to 40 years old.
19:52:16 So they're not not great photos, but they're my photos.
19:52:21 The pictures that I took in Japan and in Sweden and in Finland, and all kinds of places, mostly because my spouse was in the navy, and for whatever reason, that's where we ended up.
19:52:33 But I wanted to. I wanted to have copies of them.
19:52:37 I wanted to review digital so that I could start doing things with that.
19:52:41 And that's what I bought. You just feed it in and there's an app that runs on the Mac.
19:52:49 And you just say, start and it just chunks out all these files.
19:52:54 It's supposed to work wirelessly, but I haven't plugged in Via USB.
19:52:59 Because I don't quite know I how, I suppose, to scan something wirelessly.
19:53:06 Did you scan any slides?
19:53:10 No, it doesn't do slides. It does up to 8 by 10.
19:53:13 I see. Okay.
19:53:15 Hence there is a slide scanner that I'm looking at, cause I have thousands of slides, too, but it's like 500 bucks and 600 bucks, and there's a lot of controversies to how well it works.
19:53:31 I was looking at one of the things. This has nothing to do with anything at all, it's just like a something you should know about online reviews, online reviews are almost universally written by people who are mad.
19:53:46 And of these angry people, about 95% of them never read the instructions.
19:53:52 So if you read about the latest apple operating system, and you'll see the very next day, people saying, Oh, don't update to the newest operating system.
19:54:00 I did it, and my gerbil is now can no longer have children, and you think that's not relevant to anything.
19:54:06 What are you talking about? But you'll see that a lot of people will complain about things, and they obviously haven't read the instructions.
19:54:13 And this photo scanner I was looking at reviews, and then I thought I'd look at customer reviews and a lot of them say, Oh, it doesn't work.
19:54:22 And then they in just in the in the narrative they write about what they were trying to do.
19:54:28 You're thinking, Ok, it didn't work because it can't do that, anyway.
19:54:33 So you have to be a little bit careful. But I talked to several photographers.
19:54:36 They said us. This was wonderful, and so far I've been impressed by their you know, 20 to 40 year old photographs, and they look not bad.
19:54:47 The maximum size is 7,000 by 5,000 or so.
19:54:51 Pixels. So for a little snapshot print that's not bad at all.
19:55:01 So say you're ready to trade your phone in. Do you have a checklist that we should do prior to doing so?
19:55:12 Well, that was the part one was when you should upgrade, and I gave you the criteria.
19:55:20 If it's no longer supported, and so on. So so, and what to look for in terms of memory and all that.
19:55:24 The second thing is, how should you do it? And there are 2 different types of things about how you should go about doing the upgrade.
19:55:40 Okay.
19:55:33 The first one is that the one that's most difficult for most people, and that is, get rid of all the junk, and that's can be junk on your phone jump on your ipad junk on your Mac.
19:55:46 I was at some's house recently, not even going to mention the gender, because it's not really relevant.
19:56:00 Okay.
19:55:53 This person I know that their trash cameras fall, and I, the icon, said there was something in the trash can, and so I absolutely.
19:56:03 We were trying to figure out problems. And I opened up the trash can, because, she said, the machine had crashed, and so and sometimes when the machine crashes, it'll leave a file in your trash.
19:56:18 Can that says what it was doing at the time. It crashed, and I wanted to look and see what it was. There.
19:56:23 When I clicked on a trashcan, the screen, everything locked up for about 10 min, and she says, Oh, yeah, that I know, for open the trash can anymore cause it just does that spins forever.
19:56:35 So I talked with her in about 10 min later it finally opened up the trashcan.
19:56:39 She had 28,000 things in her trashcan.
19:56:43 She never emptied the trashcan. If you're going to upgrade to a new machine, empty your trash because there's no reason to transfer to your new machine, things are throwing away.
19:56:57 I was actually curious about that. So I took everything in a trashcan I stuck it into a folder, and it came to 300 and some odd gigabytes, and one of the problems she had.
19:57:07 She said she was running on a disk space. Well, after we dumped the trash she had 300 GB worth of space that she didn't have just moments before so empty your trashcan.
19:57:20 Go through your mail, get rid of your junk, mail.
19:57:22 A lot of people never empty their junk mail folder, empty.
19:57:26 Their trash. If you've tracked messages. For some reason people keep them forever.
19:57:31 Oh, I might want that someday. Well, looking through your trash if you've trashed messages. For some reason people keep them forever.
19:57:39 Oh, I might want that someday. Well, looking through your trash here, it looks like you haven't wanted something anything since about 2,011, so you know, empty tracks and few junk mail empty the track in that.
19:57:47 Do that in email, empty the trash in trash can.
19:57:52 And on your Mac, if you get a lot of messages with photos in them, you might want to try saving the photos.
19:58:00 You select a bunch of messages and you go up to the menu.
19:58:05 There's a way to have it. See? All of the photographs at once.
19:58:09 It, gives you messages. We'll give you a little outline of what those photographs are if you want to keep those fine, but keep them out of messages, because if they're in messages they're taking up room when you buy a new Iphone you get 5
19:58:25 gigabytes free on icloud, except that the icloud storage, the free stuff.
19:58:32 Those are for messages for email, for photographs, for everything and it's really easy to fill it up.
19:58:41 And sometimes you want to know how to get rid of something.
19:58:43 I currently have on this phone 4 GB worth of messages.
19:58:50 So if I were to delete all of my messages I'd end up with 4 GB of space that I didn't have before.
19:58:56 In my case, what we did is we just went with a heart well, larger page.
19:59:00 It's plan on Icloud, because my spouse tell me that bad things would happen if we didn't do that.
19:59:10 But just make it just get rid of things, is the first thing you should do the second thing you should do is that if you're going from, say, a 2,016 machine to a 2,023 machine you might look at the programs that you have and find out how many of them you
19:59:31 haven't used at all, and uninstall them.
19:59:33 There is an option when you're moving from one machine to the other, you take your old machine, your new machine.
19:59:39 You hook them together and you can run a utility that's called migrate migration assistant on your Mac, and it'll take stuff from your old machine to put it on your new machine.
19:59:50 There's no reason to move programs over that. You haven't used, and that programs that won't work about 8, 10 years ago, when I upgraded one of Kathleen's machines, we found a copy of Norton utilities was still installed norton this particular
20:00:10 version of Norton utilities had not been upgraded since 1990.
20:00:13 3, so, as she migrated from one machine to a new machine to a new machine, it was getting migrated with it, and we just throw it away.
20:00:23 So it go through your programs and see what what you're using, what you really don't use.
20:00:29 And I'm gonna share my screen again. So I can show you how to check on that sort of stuff.
20:00:36 Let's move this out of the way, and I'm using a new Mac.
20:00:41 So this is, I'm using the latest operating system.
20:00:46 But under General no, I went. That's not what I want. I want system.
20:01:03 Down here. We have system. Report. If you click on this, it tells you all kinds of things about your your Mac, including the software that you have, and and I'm not getting what I really wanted.
20:01:21 Alright!
20:01:28 Applications. That's what I went.
20:01:33 And it's not letting me do this because I'm not an Admin user.
20:01:38 Oh, yes, it is. It's just taking a while.
20:01:42 If you come over here you can click on this thing, says Kind, and it tells you 30 bit to bit unsupported.
20:01:50 These are things that are on my apple silicon machine that I can't actually run.
20:01:58 And most of these things are left over. This check register is a program that I helped somebody write once upon a time.
20:02:06 Most of these are old programs that I wrote and I don't care that it's not sported because I just keep them because I wrote them.
20:02:13 You're on mute.
20:02:14 But then I will for you. You'll see that for some things it says that adobe application updated or it says apple silicon.
20:02:23 It means that this program runs natively in Apple's Silicon most of them, you'll see, are intel.
20:02:31 Summer, Ios. I'll get to that in a second, and some are universal, universal means that they were explicitly written written so that they would run on both Intel Max and apple silicon.
20:02:42 Max, the ones that say they are Intel only run only on an intel processor, but if you have an apple silicon machine it there's a special piece of software that it'll automatically load that allows you to run those anyway, and then apple silicon or native for apple silicon you'll notice
20:03:02 though that some of these are Ios. How can you run an Ios application on the apple silicon machine?
20:03:11 And the answer is, that's one of the one of the features of Mac OS.
20:03:19 What is it? 10 and 11 is that for you can run some Ios programs natively on that.
20:03:27 And mostly it's used for things like games. I don't think I have any games here, but you can run some games.
20:03:36 Iphone games, ipad games, natively on, on a apple, silicon machine.
20:03:41 But this, this applications list will tell you things that you know I I could just get rid of these things and save space.
20:03:49 Now, in this particular case, I'm not going to for a variety of reasons, but for most people they want to.
20:03:58 Deinstall these, because there's no point in in moving them to a new machine.
20:04:08 Sure!
20:04:05 Lawrence, can I ask you a question? Real quick, since oh, you were just screen sharing.
20:04:12 I thought maybe what you could just show me on downloads. How do you delete downloads?
20:04:17 You go into the downloads folder and just throw them away.
20:04:22 Can you show me? I just tried, and it didn't work.
20:04:23 Okay? Okay, for sure.
20:04:28 Hit the delete button, yet to move, to trash.
20:04:33 Yeah.
20:04:33 So I open downloads.
20:04:35 Okay, here's the downloads folder, and it has something.
20:04:39 Hold on you're going too fast. How did you get it in that view?
20:04:43 I get it in like a different view.
20:04:44 Oh, yes. Well, one of the things here is I can't stand it.
20:04:50 The downloads where it comes out in that fan.
20:04:53 Okay, this isn't a fan. It's just got the little pictures of each like a grid kind of thing.
20:04:58 Yeah, I know. But I'm I'm crazy things in here so I can show you what the options are downloads.
20:05:07 It normally comes up in a fan view. So you do this, and I say, open downloads actually, why isn't it Fanning?
20:05:16 Now because I missed it.
20:05:19 Is click on left, click on it, and it should do that.
20:05:22 Okay.
20:05:24 Yeah. Nope, never mind.
20:05:26 Hmm!
20:05:25 Oh, there it is! I find this immensely annoying.
20:05:31 So if you right click on it, you go go into options and you can say list, because when I open up downloads I wanted to give me a list.
20:05:41 I don't want it to do that. But the other way, if it's showing you icons, that's because you have it set to come up here and say, showing icons.
20:05:49 So it's giving you this view, which is annoying, awesome.
20:05:52 Well, yeah, it's yeah. And it's actually not even that nice looking it's all the pictures on your screen like iridescent. I don't know.
20:06:03 It's not that view. But I okay, I know where to change it.
20:06:04 Yeah.
20:06:05 And then you can just click from here and delete.
20:06:07 They are. Just grab them, and right click and say, Move to trash!
20:06:11 Okay, it was because of the view that it was in that I couldn't get them to delete from downloads.
20:06:20 That's and then you opened it in finder.
20:06:23 Oh, I almost always. That's because I want to open the folder.
20:06:27 So if I want to open the folder and use it as a folder.
20:06:32 The downloads folder is a folder.
20:06:34 And use it as a folder. The downloads folder is a folder, so I want it to act like a regular folder.
20:06:38 The downloads folder is a folder, so I want it to act like a regular folder, and if I have a bunch of stuff and downloads, this is easy. I was recently playing around with adobe firefly adobe firefly is an AI
20:06:46 artificial, intelligence-based art program. You give it a text prompt and it draws picture from it, and I must have made 50 photographs.
20:06:55 So they all ended up my downloads, and I wanted to go sort through them.
20:07:00 It's much easier just sort through them when they're listed like this.
20:07:04 Yeah, okay.
20:07:02 Then, if you have icons, because that's just a knowing.
20:07:07 Okay. Thank you.
20:07:13 Okay. Any other questions.
20:07:17 Oh! I answered one question which I told you how to upgrade a Mac.
20:07:22 Get rid of Uhunk mail. Empty your trash, that sort of stink that also applies for your phone.
20:07:31 Hmm! It's bad.
20:07:38 Hmm!
20:07:30 If you're upgrading your phone, basically get rid of your, the, your email trash and check mail, all of that stuff because, as you transfer it from the old phone to the new phone, it just takes longer if it has to move all that junk and the same thing with your
20:07:47 ipad. It just takes longer. If you have to move all that junk and the same thing with your ipad, it just takes longer.
20:07:52 We did it.
20:07:50 If you have to move all that junk. So so just just get rid of that stuff and make it nice and tidy, and throw away things that you're just not using.
20:08:01 When I upgraded to my current desktop machine the oldest program I threw away was from 2,017, which is fairly recent, probably for some of you, but that hadn't been updated, and I wasn't using anymore.
20:08:19 So I just threw it away, and it didn't need to be updated.
20:08:22 Another thing to think about, which I didn't mention. If you, if you can keep your old phone and your new phone, your old ipad and your new ipad, your old Mac and your new ipad your old Mac and your new Ipad, are you in new Mac when you're doing the
20:08:39 upgrade because you can link them so that they'll actually push things out to it for a phone the easiest way to do it is to push everything up to Icloud.
20:08:50 It should be there anyway. But some people like they haven't sync photos, and so on.
20:08:55 So forth, turn everything on sync it to Icloud, and then, when you have your new phone, it'll just download everything from Icloud fast, easy, efficient.
20:09:04 But if you missed something, and you gave away the phone, you can't do anything with it.
20:09:10 At that point. So if you can keep your old phone or your old ipad, old Mac, until you do the conversion for Max, there's usually a lot more things to move, and for that, you can actually link them together using an ethernet cable using a USB, C table whatever whatever kind of
20:09:32 thing that you need. You can link them together that way and do a brain transfer from one to the other.
20:09:38 If your Mac is so old that it doesn't have something like all the new Macs have Usbc connectors.
20:09:45 If you have something that's got a firewire connector and doesn't have a USB.
20:09:47 C. Connector, the best way to do this is to buy an external drive.
20:09:52 Do save everything, using time machine to that external drive, plug your new Mac into the external drive and suck everything back.
20:10:02 You! That one of the things that migration is sitting I'll show you what migration is.
20:10:06 Assistant looks like if you bring up migration assistant.
20:10:12 It says, you wanna know, migrate something, continue, and it once a username and password. Okay?
20:10:23 What I am me pretty sure that.
20:10:34 Okay, we're gonna cancel this because it's going to.
20:10:41 Apparently it's going to.
20:10:44 Okay. We don't want to use. We don't want to demonstrate migration assistant, because it's kind of cut my connection to the Internet.
20:10:53 But one of the things that ask are you migrating from another?
20:10:55 Mac, or are you migrating from a from a time machine store?
20:10:59 If you have a fresh time machine store, you cook up the drive to your Mac and say, migrate from that drive and just go out to dinner and come back and it'll come back in and it looks like you're supposed to the advantage of keeping your old Mac if it doesn't work.
20:11:18 You can try again, whereas if you've given it away or something, then you can't do that.
20:11:25 Obviously speaking of giving it away on your Mac and on your iphone and on your ipad.
20:11:33 There are ways of of preparing them to give away, and if you go into Google and Site type in preparing my Mac to give away, it'll tell you through the steps that different steps for the iphone, the Ipad and a Mac and it basically says turn off Icloud log out of find
20:11:56 my Mac, and do some other things, and then it'll just erase the drive, and it'll come back up with the apple logo and nothing on it.
20:12:07 But you don't want to give away your machine with anything on it.
20:12:10 You want it to look like it direct from Apple.
20:12:14 If you are, machine is not bootable, and you want to get rid of it.
20:12:18 The best way to do it is to talk somebody into figuring out how to take the drive out and beat on it with a sledgehammer.
20:12:26 If you're if your Mac has a dead drive and you don't want the machine anymore, the drive should be removed and somebody should hit with something.
20:12:34 Really heavy old dead drives can be recovered.
20:12:39 What about an ipad that's in that shape?
20:12:43 It's not bootable.
20:12:44 If it's not bootable, there's probably nothing that anyone can get off of it.
20:12:49 But if you, you know, get a heavy sack and pound on it you wanted in this heavy sack, so that things don't go flying around.
20:13:01 Yeah.
20:13:01 But what was that?
20:13:02 Lawrence.
20:13:06 Oh, Kathleen asked about a Gaza.
20:13:11 There are de Gazers that will work with computers and ipads and iphones, but the ones that work with computers and ipads and iphones are so powerful that if you have something like a pacemaker, it'll also turn your pacemaker off so
20:13:24 generally speaking, those on the kind of things you're going to have in your own home by, for the example, in in the government, we would take entire servers, and we put them into this room that had this the Gaza we leave the room.
20:13:40 We flip a switch. The lights with dim, and it sounded like we are electricating.
20:13:45 Somebody, but that was really expensive, and and the machines are genuinely dangerous.
20:13:52 For most of us a big camera works quite well.
20:13:58 Lauren has a question.
20:14:02 Yes.
20:13:59 We have a 2014 Macbook pro 15 inch retina screen.
20:14:10 That with 16 gigs of memory we tried to buy the biggest thing we could at the time, cause we wanted to keep it as long as possible, and it still works fine.
20:14:20 But the question is, and it's running a big sur version, 11.7 point 6 like, how do I know when it's time to retire? This puppy?
20:14:31 If you cannot update it anymore. That's the basically, that's the key.
20:14:40 What a developer!
20:14:38 And that apple's worldwide developer. I'm sorry.
20:14:45 That was you being reverberated.
20:14:49 Oh!
20:14:53 At Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference.
20:14:55 They're probably going to announce new operating systems for the Mac, and you.
20:15:00 They'll publish shortly after that a list of what machines are incompatible with the one that's going to come out, and at that point you should probably check that out to see what it is.
20:15:11 If it's 2016, a macbook pro, it might still be covered.
20:15:15 It's 2014.
20:15:15 Okay, 2014, 2014 could be Iffy. I'm pretty sure that doesn't have a T one or T 2, chip.
20:15:24 It doesn't have the security chip and Apple is is putting that security chip to more and more uses.
20:15:34 So I think that's that's let's put this way.
20:15:40 The average. The average windows machine is kept for 9 months.
20:15:46 That's usually because in 9 months they managed to screw it up so bad that they can't figure out how to use anymore.
20:15:52 And they go out and buy a new one. I'm not making this up.
20:15:54 The average windows machine is kept for about 9 months the average Mac has kept for about 5 years you're way past the 5 year mark.
20:16:04 Is kept for about 5 years. You're way past the 5 year, mark. So you're doing good.
20:16:06 But I would. If you can't update it.
20:16:08 That's when you need to give some serious thought to getting a new machine.
20:16:13 Thank you.
20:16:15 Or if there's a capability that you can't use like, for example, there are some things that I cannot do unless I have a apple silicon chip, and so I went with an apple silicon machine.
20:16:35 Okay.
20:16:29 But it it that's entirely up to whatever you, whatever you normally do, and what your needs are.
20:16:38 And so you were talking about the different, you know that for many people and M.
20:16:42 One two-based machine works, and I think you may have talked about this before.
20:16:48 But if when we're thinking about upgrading and thinking about an error versus a macbook pro you know the lighter, I mean at this point it seems like they're very similar in terms of capabilities.
20:17:06 Am I missing something about that?
20:17:08 The Macbook air M. 2 is pretty much just as powerful as the Macbook pro.
20:17:17 I think the Macbook pro has more ports on it.
20:17:19 So if you wanted to hook that up for more things that's that's of use.
20:17:24 But the macbook air and one I found to be too slow, so if you were thinking about saving money by buying the M.
20:17:30 Yeah, yeah.
20:17:31 One, I think the M. One is too slow. The M. 2 is much, is much faster.
20:17:36 The Mac mini, M. One. On the other hand, it's perfectly happy.
20:17:41 It just depends upon what you're doing with it.
20:17:46 The Macbook, air.
20:17:40 Bye, you, too, what you're doing with it. Okay?
20:17:50 Yes.
20:17:49 I spent a lot of time waiting for it to do things in that way.
20:17:54 Thank you.
20:17:57 Other questions.
20:18:00 Yes.
20:17:59 I have a question you talked about clearing out applications that are no longer used, and I have a little bit of ambivalence about that, because it seems like I've heard that you should uninstall them.
20:18:18 Yes.
20:18:19 And that sounds kind of like, what? How do I? How do I uninstall versus just delete?
20:18:24 Okay. That's a good question. And I will share my screen.
20:18:30 Okay.
20:18:29 And I wish you what I do. There is a free utility called app cleaner.
20:18:45 I think I asked me half this.
20:18:40 And this is great. Yeah, app cleaners free. And if you want to know something about it, you can go to their website and just go into Google and type it app cleaner Mac, so that you know you're getting the right thing app clean or Mac, and it takes your here, it's produced by freesoft which really is
20:19:09 free, and if you want it, you just press that blue downloads button and it downloads it, and what it does, and I'm not actually going to delete anything, because I don't think there's anything I really want to get rid of.
20:19:19 But I want to show you how it works. If you, if you go into appations and you find something that you don't want like big, mean, folder machine.
20:19:33 And you say, move to trash that will move it to the trash.
20:19:36 It might ask you for your username and password, but it'll move it to the track if you move it to here.
20:19:43 It not only moves it, to the trash well, in this case it doesn't have anything else.
20:19:47 Well, that's kind of disappointing. My demonstration didn't work too well, let's find this ones.
20:19:53 Let's see about that one. Okay, you'll see that this particular program is called Blue Canoe Pronunciation Dictionary.
20:20:02 And if you wanna know what it is, you type, in a word, and it tells you how to pronounce it.
20:20:06 If you throw it away here at the finder, it only throws away the application, and you'll see that it's actually stored things in all kinds of other places.
20:20:18 And if you're throwing away the application, you probably want to get these other things, which is why app Phena is is a good utility to get rid of things.
20:20:26 I will warn you, though, that there are lots of things that people say that they don't know what they were so they threw them away.
20:20:33 For example, in the utilities folder which I'll a lot of people never bothered to look at. They say.
20:20:39 Well, I don't know what key chain access is, so I'm gonna throw that away. And I don't know what migration assistant is.
20:20:46 So I'm gonna throw that away. No, really. Only throw away things that you know what they are, because you might find out that your machine really needs some of those things.
20:20:53 But I highly recommend app cleaner. If you're going to clean your machine because it gets all those little hidden things that are that belong to the to the application that might be stored elsewhere.
20:21:07 Alright. Thank you.
20:21:10 Any other questions?
20:21:17 I have a question for you, which is, I am not able to open the form link to add, my username attendance.
20:21:26 And it should be fairly easy. Yeah.
20:21:35 If you click on the link in the chat, it should bring this up.
20:21:39 Oh, oh, well, I didn't do that. Let's see.
20:21:58 Yeah, just double click on it. Should launch your browser and take you there.
20:22:05 I have one question for everybody, which is, what are we going to do in June?
20:22:17 I will tell you that Steve Lockwood has sent me several requests that I talk about Apple TV, and I've been putting that off because I'm having difficulty trying to figure out how to demonstrate it.
20:22:31 For example, Kathleen is watching me share the screen.
20:22:36 My screen on our TV and we're using apple TV to do that but I can't figure out a good way to demonstrate that to anybody.
20:22:44 But we're using apple TV to do that. But I can't figure out a good way to demonstrate that to anybody.
20:22:55 But but for.
20:22:55 How about a review of whatever apple announces?
20:23:06 Okay.
20:22:58 Oh, we yes, that is almost a given. I'll probably do that, even if nobody wants me to, because I'm going to be.
20:23:08 I'm going to be watching that also. If anyone wants to be get up at 7 Am.
20:23:15 This, Saturday to listen to David Pog talk about artificial intelligence, email me, your your email address, so that I can tell Washington apple pie.
20:23:26 So they can let you in. But I'm going to get up at probably 5 30, so that I can watch as 70'clock presentation because he is entertaining David Pogue, for if you've never some of you probably read I can't
20:23:47 remember what what do you call it? David? Pogue's Missing manuals, Microsoft word Missing Manuals, Mac OS, Missy Manual. He produced a whole bunch of these missing manual things in person.
20:23:59 He is just really full of himself, which at times I found annoying.
20:24:06 But he's still entertaining. So, even if he's annoying, he's he's entertaining.
20:24:11 So I'm gonna watch it. Yeah. So.
20:24:16 One more thing. I don't see anything here that looks like I could click on to be a sign-on sheets.
20:24:25 Me, neither.
20:24:23 It's in. It's in the chat window.
20:24:29 And I'll copy the link, and I'll paste it in again.
20:24:32 So it'll be at the bottom of the chat window.
20:24:35 If you don't see the chat window, there's a icon at the bottom, says Chat Window.
20:24:40 If you don't see the chat window, there's a icon of the bottom, says Chat. You click that open and it pops up the chat window, and it should say something like https.
20:24:46 Slash slash forms dot glee. If you're looking for the icon, it's at the bottom of the of the zoom screen.
20:24:52 It's goes cross horizontally at the bottom.
20:24:54 I can see it, but I don't see the form.
20:24:59 In the chat window. It should be at the bottom of it, should say, forms dot gle dot slash something rather, and if you double, click on it'll bring up the form.
20:25:11 I found it now.
20:25:13 I'm still working on it.
20:25:19 No!
20:25:24 It's not opening.
20:25:28 Well, maybe mine.
20:25:31 I need to get a mouse out instead of.
20:25:39 Laurence, how do you spell David's last name?
20:25:43 I'm sorry.
20:25:42 P o g u e p o g u e.
20:25:42 Code, yes, P. O, yes.
20:25:48 T is in Tom.
20:25:49 No p o G. Is in Gary u g ue sorry.
20:25:55 Got it. Thank you.
20:25:57 I'll put that in chat, too, just for the heck of it.
20:26:00 Alright got there!
20:25:50 T
20:26:09 Okay.
20:26:13 Any other questions?
20:26:15 Laurence, you don't have a really old Mac around still do yet.
20:26:19 Hmm!
20:26:20 The last. All, Mac id have I gave to my nice, anyway, I don't.
20:26:29 I don't have any Macs, that I'm not currently using.
20:26:32 So the reason I asked is because I had a scanner that has a thing to put slides in, but it can't handle any newer than OS.
20:26:44 10.15 point 7. I think it is so.
20:26:48 Actually, I have a solution for things like that. It's a I run things under parallels.
20:26:58 Oh, oh, yeah.
20:26:58 So on my intel-based Mac, I run.
20:27:01 There's a program that what doesn't run on anything past 10.12, and so I've got a virtual 10.12 machine.
20:27:10 And I run this program on that. So.
20:27:13 So if you're interested in using this scanner, or at least trying it to do your slides, it's manual.
20:27:23 But and if you got thousands of them, I think you said then that might be more of a hassle than but you're welcome to it. If you'd like.
20:27:32 Well, there are places that will allow that will scan them as a service.
20:27:40 Yes. Yeah.
20:27:40 They are hideously expensive, and the quality is terrible. So I I am.
20:27:50 I am looking for. I will come. I will give you a call.
20:27:53 Sure!
20:27:56 Okay.
20:27:57 Yes.
20:27:56 I have a question. Hi! Heather! Mac is probably oh, I wanna say 10 years old.
20:28:04 The processor is built right into the machine. If I were to upgrade, do the newer machines now have the processors built right in, or do you have this extra little box?
20:28:19 It's in the year, Imac, that you have.
20:28:24 There is a processor. There are a set of memory. Chips.
20:28:30 There is a separate hard drive. All of these things are separate pieces in the new machines.
20:28:34 The Apple, silicon machines. It's one giant chip that giant chip is everything.
20:28:39 It's the graphics processor. It's the CPU, it's the RAM.
20:28:47 Okay.
20:28:44 It's the storage. Everything is one and and that's why they're so fast.
20:28:50 No!
20:28:50 Because the limitation with a lot of screen with a lot of machines is a speed of light, and you may not think about it.
20:28:56 But if you got a one foot of one square foot, one square foot footprint for your machine, with its chips scattered all over in you're running things at millions of times a second.
20:29:09 And right now we're running them actually at billions of times.
20:29:11 A second. If you move a one foot, wire through that maze billions of times a second.
20:29:20 A second.
20:29:18 That's a big of feet a second. If you put it on a little chip that's one inch square.
20:29:26 It's much, much faster. So that's why that's why everything is on one chip.
20:29:32 It's one large, and it's got the memory.
20:29:35 The graphics processor is the security chip, the everything is in one chip, and that's why it can't be upgraded, because it will.
20:29:45 One.
20:29:45 Yeah, I'll be here.
20:29:50 Okay? The answer, then, is the new machines. It's it's still the same name.
20:29:55 But it's all within the no, the box go to speak.
20:29:58 Yes, and if that's why you want to be very careful when you buy it, that you're getting enough memory and enough storage, because that's it.
20:30:08 Okay.
20:30:08 You can add it externally, but you can't add anything into the box.
20:30:12 Very good, sir, thank you.
20:30:14 Yeah, I have a question. I think I recall last year you talked about getting for buying the apple studio display and I don't know if that's accurate.
20:30:26 But did you get that studio display?
20:30:31 And tell me a lot of some consumers have panned it.
20:30:38 But other people who reviewed it found it quite, quite satisfactory. What's your experience?
20:30:43 Been.
20:30:28 Yes, I I'm looking at you on my studio, just I I have nothing I'm kind to say about it.
20:30:50 It's it's expensive, but the if you do, if you do photography, if you do video, the it's a really bright, crisp display.
20:31:00 It's got built in. Speakers. Gotta build in microphones.
20:31:04 Got a building camera. It's got all this stuff built into it.
20:31:07 It's got built-in USB hubbub, USB see?
20:31:10 Hub on the pack so you can plug other things into it.
20:31:13 I wanted more space, and I went out and bought a display which I've only had for a month and second display.
20:31:23 And it's connected to the studio just using a USB cable.
20:31:29 Nothing complicated, no HDMI or anything. Just USB Cable.
20:31:35 And what was interesting is that people complain about the cost of the studio display.
20:31:39 They said, it's really expensive. This other display which is made by Acs Acs, is famous for having incredibly cheap things to get something that had the same resolution as the apple studio display the apple studios display something like $1,500 this thing was $1,300 so a really cheap
20:32:03 way monitor with the same resolution, costs almost as much as the apple studio.
20:32:10 I can't complain about the apple studio display at all.
20:32:14 Okay. Thank you.
20:32:18 Okay.
20:32:20 Any other questions?
20:32:24 My mother!
20:32:28 Okay.
20:32:23 Then I will see you next month. Good night, everybody.
20:32:29 Alright. Thank you.
20:32:30 Thanks.
20:32:29 Thank you.
20:32:32 Thank you.
20:32:30 Thank you. Look forward to the zoom. One report or June 2. Whatever.
20:32:37 June fifth, before.
20:32:39 Good night.
20:32:40 Hey!
A new Mac Pro tower computer with an M2 Ultra processor and a half dozen PCIe expansion slots (right) and a new Mac Studio with an M2 Max or M2 Ultra processor (left)
The long-expected Apple headset, the Vision Pro, was also introduced, but it was nothing like anyone else’s headset.
Apple has filed over 5,000 patents to cover the various innovations in materials, software, and hardware. It is kind of hard to explain, but here is a link:
Apple also announced several new operating systems for Macs, iPhones, iPads, and Apple Watch. Compatibility details for the new operating systems are shown below. All the new operating systems will be available “this fall,” with public betas of most of them available soon.
macOS Sonoma includes a bunch of personalization enhancements, and new ways to connect various Apple devices.
iOS 17 adds new “cards” that visually identify the caller (if they are known), new do-it-yourself stickies from photos, and real-time transcripts of incoming calls, to help you screen calls, plus many other new features.
iOS 17 is compatible with these devices.
iPhone 14 iPhone 14 Plus iPhone 14 Pro iPhone 14 Pro Max iPhone 13 iPhone 13 mini iPhone 13 Pro iPhone 13 Pro Max iPhone 12 iPhone 12 mini iPhone 12 Pro iPhone 12 Pro Max iPhone 11 iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 Pro Max iPhone XS iPhone XS Max iPhone XR iPhone SE (2nd generation or later)
watchOS 10 offers new watch faces plus a whole bunch of new health and fitness features.
watchOS 10 compatibility.
watchOS 10 requires iPhone XS, iPhone XR or later with iOS 17 and one of the following Apple Watch models: Apple Watch Series 4 Apple Watch Series 5 Apple Watch SE Apple Watch Series 6 Apple Watch Series 7 Apple Watch Series 8 Apple Watch Ultra Not all features are available on all devices.
tvOS 17 introduces Facetime, and allows you to use your iPhone as the camera for your TV, giving you all kinds of new opportunities for long-distance interactions.
Health and fitness applications now span across the iPad, iPhone and Apple Watch.
The keynote is definitely worth the two hours and eight minutes.
Apple is using a Swift logo (Swift is a language developed by Apple) to promote their World Wide Developer Conference 2023, better known as WWDC23.. While it is aimed at programmers and software designers (and the Swift logo is a strong suggestion that development will be the main focus), Apple has traditionally highlighted a consumer-friendly introduction to new products, operating systems, and other goodies in the opening keynote of the conference. This year, the conference will be both in-person and streamed online.
The keynote — and everyone is encouraged to stream it, since it is free — starts Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time, June 5, 2023. More details are available on Apple’s site. You can stream it on an iPad, Macintosh, or Apple TV — pretty much anything that can stream video from the Internet.
Then on Saturday, June 10, 2023, at 1 p.m., SMUG will have an in-person demonstration of Computer Troubleshooting for Non-Techies, covering both Windows and Macintosh computers, at Trinity United Methodist Church in Sequim. Check this website for more details, plus a poster for the event, plus three odd troubleshooting guides.
Apple issued a large number of security updates on May 18, plus an unusual one earlier in the month for the AirPods and Beats headphones and earpods. The updates in many case also have performance updates (such as a bug that sometimes resulted in a long pause before a wireless Bluetooth keyboard synced with a Mac at startup, for example). And there is a hint that the updates are also laying the groundwork for Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC23), which begins June 5.
An overview of the updates:
AirPods Firmware Update 5E133, AirPods 2nd gen. and AirPods Pro, AirPods Max
Issued April 11, 2023
Applied automatically when your AirPods are charging and your iPhone is within range of the charger.
Security update.
Beats Firmware Update 5B66, PowerBeats Pro, Beats Fit Pro
Issued May 2, 2023
Automatically updated when in Bluetooth range of paired Mac, iPhone, or iPad.
Security update.
iOS 16.5, iPadOS 16.5
Issued May 18, 2023
For iPhone 8 and later, IPad Pro (all models), iPad Air 3rd gen. and later, iPad 5th gen. and later, iPad mini 5th gen. and later
Many, many security and performance updates.
iOS 15.7.6 and iPad 15.7.6
Issued May 18, 2023
For iPhones and iPads not capable of running iOS 16 or iPadOS 16
Many, many security updates.
macOS Ventura 13.4
Issued May 18, 2023
For all Macs that can run macOS Ventura
Many, many security and performance updates.
macOS Monterey 12.6.6
Issued May 18, 2023
For all Macs that can run Monterey but not run Ventura
Many, many security and performance updates.
macOS Big Sur 11.7.7
Issued May 18, 2023
For all Macs that can run Big Sur but cannot run Monterey or Ventura
Many, many security updates.
tvOS 16.5
For all Apple TV devices that can run tvOS 16
Issued May 18, 2023
Many, many security and performance updates.
watchOS 9.5
Issued May 18, 2023
For Aople Watch Series 4 and later
Many, many security and performance updates.
Safari 16.5
Issued May 18, 2023
The Safari update is included with the Big Sur, Monterey, and Ventura updates.
Several security updates.
You can sign up to get Apple’s security announcements by going to:
and filling in the relevant information. A typical message from the list will look like this. Yes, it is somewhat cryptic and technical, but the important thing is: it tells you there is a security update.
Hash: SHA256
APPLE-SA-2023-05-18-3 macOS Ventura 13.4
macOS Ventura 13.4 addresses the following issues.
Information about the security content is also available at
https://support.apple.com/HT213758.
Apple maintains a Security Updates page at
https://support.apple.com/HT201222 which lists recent
software updates with security advisories.
Accessibility
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to bypass Privacy preferences
Description: A privacy issue was addressed with improved private data
redaction for log entries.
CVE-2023-32388: Kirin (@Pwnrin)
Accessibility
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Entitlements and privacy permissions granted to this app may be
used by a malicious app
Description: This issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32400: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
AppleMobileFileIntegrity
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to bypass Privacy preferences
Description: This issue was addressed with improved entitlements.
CVE-2023-32411: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
Associated Domains
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to break out of its sandbox
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32371: James Duffy (mangoSecure)
Contacts
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to observe unprotected user data
Description: A privacy issue was addressed with improved handling of
temporary files.
CVE-2023-32386: Kirin (@Pwnrin)
Core Location
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: The issue was addressed with improved handling of caches.
CVE-2023-32399: an anonymous researcher
CoreServices
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to bypass Privacy preferences
Description: This issue was addressed with improved redaction of
sensitive information.
CVE-2023-28191: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
CUPS
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An unauthenticated user may be able to access recently printed
documents
Description: An authentication issue was addressed with improved state
management.
CVE-2023-32360: Gerhard Muth
dcerpc
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A remote attacker may be able to cause unexpected app
termination or arbitrary code execution
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
CVE-2023-32387: Dimitrios Tatsis of Cisco Talos
DesktopServices
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to break out of its sandbox
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32414: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
GeoServices
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: A privacy issue was addressed with improved private data
redaction for log entries.
CVE-2023-32392: an anonymous researcher
ImageIO
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing an image may result in disclosure of process memory
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
CVE-2023-32372: Meysam Firouzi of @R00tkitSMM Mbition mercedes-benz
innovation lab working with Trend Micro Zero Day Initiative
ImageIO
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing an image may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: A buffer overflow was addressed with improved bounds
checking.
CVE-2023-32384: Meysam Firouzi @R00tkitsmm working with Trend Micro Zero
Day Initiative
IOSurface
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to leak sensitive kernel state
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
CVE-2023-32410: hou xuewei (@p1ay8y3ar) vmk msu
IOSurfaceAccelerator
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to cause unexpected system termination or
read kernel memory
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
CVE-2023-32420: Linus Henze of Pinauten GmbH (pinauten.de)
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: A type confusion issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-27930: 08Tc3wBB of Jamf
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A sandboxed app may be able to observe system-wide network
connections
Description: The issue was addressed with additional permissions checks.
CVE-2023-27940: James Duffy (mangoSecure)
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel
privileges
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
CVE-2023-32398: Adam Doupé of ASU SEFCOM
Kernel
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to gain root privileges
Description: A race condition was addressed with improved state
handling.
CVE-2023-32413: Eloi Benoist-Vanderbeken (@elvanderb) from Synacktiv
(@Synacktiv) working with Trend Micro Zero Day Initiative
LaunchServices
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may bypass Gatekeeper checks
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32352: Wojciech Reguła (@_r3ggi) of SecuRing
(wojciechregula.blog)
libxpc
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-32369: Jonathan Bar Or of Microsoft, Anurag Bohra of Microsoft,
and Michael Pearse of Microsoft
libxpc
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to gain root privileges
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32405: Thijs Alkemade (@xnyhps) from Computest Sector 7
Metal
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to bypass Privacy preferences
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-32407: Gergely Kalman (@gergely_kalman)
Model I/O
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing a 3D model may result in disclosure of process memory
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
CVE-2023-32368: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
CVE-2023-32375: Michael DePlante (@izobashi) of Trend Micro Zero Day
Initiative
CVE-2023-32382: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
Model I/O
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing a 3D model may lead to arbitrary code execution
Description: An out-of-bounds write issue was addressed with improved
bounds checking.
CVE-2023-32380: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
NetworkExtension
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: This issue was addressed with improved redaction of
sensitive information.
CVE-2023-32403: an anonymous researcher
PackageKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-32355: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
PDFKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Opening a PDF file may lead to unexpected app termination
Description: A denial-of-service issue was addressed with improved
memory handling.
CVE-2023-32385: Jonathan Fritz
Perl
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-32395: Arsenii Kostromin (0x3c3e)
Photos
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Photos belonging to the Hidden Photos Album could be viewed
without authentication through Visual Lookup
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32390: Julian Szulc
Sandbox
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to retain access to system configuration
files even after its permission is revoked
Description: An authorization issue was addressed with improved state
management.
CVE-2023-32357: Yiğit Can YILMAZ (@yilmazcanyigit), Koh M. Nakagawa of
FFRI Security, Inc., Kirin (@Pwnrin), Jeff Johnson (underpassapp.com),
and Csaba Fitzl (@theevilbit) of Offensive Security
Screen Saver
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to bypass Privacy preferences
Description: A permissions issue was addressed by removing vulnerable
code and adding additional checks.
CVE-2023-32363: Mickey Jin (@patch1t)
Security
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to access user-sensitive data
Description: This issue was addressed with improved entitlements.
CVE-2023-32367: James Duffy (mangoSecure)
Shell
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: A logic issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-32397: Arsenii Kostromin (0x3c3e)
Shortcuts
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A shortcut may be able to use sensitive data with certain
actions without prompting the user
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32391: Wenchao Li and Xiaolong Bai of Alibaba Group
Shortcuts
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to bypass Privacy preferences
Description: This issue was addressed with improved entitlements.
CVE-2023-32404: Mickey Jin (@patch1t), Zhipeng Huo (@R3dF09) of Tencent
Security Xuanwu Lab (xlab.tencent.com), and an anonymous researcher
Siri
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A person with physical access to a device may be able to view
contact information from the lock screen
Description: The issue was addressed with improved checks.
CVE-2023-32394: Khiem Tran
SQLite
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to access data from other apps by enabling
additional SQLite logging
Description: This issue was addressed by adding additional SQLite
logging restrictions.
CVE-2023-32422: Gergely Kalman (@gergely_kalman)
StorageKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to modify protected parts of the file system
Description: This issue was addressed with improved entitlements.
CVE-2023-32376: Yiğit Can YILMAZ (@yilmazcanyigit)
System Settings
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app firewall setting may not take effect after exiting the
Settings app
Description: This issue was addressed with improved state management.
CVE-2023-28202: Satish Panduranga and an anonymous researcher
Telephony
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A remote attacker may be able to cause unexpected app
termination or arbitrary code execution
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
CVE-2023-32412: Ivan Fratric of Google Project Zero
TV App
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: The issue was addressed with improved handling of caches.
CVE-2023-32408: Adam M.
Weather
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to read sensitive location information
Description: This issue was addressed with improved redaction of
sensitive information.
CVE-2023-32415: Wojciech Regula of SecuRing (wojciechregula.blog), and
an anonymous researcher
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may disclose sensitive information
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
WebKit Bugzilla: 255075
CVE-2023-32402: an anonymous researcher
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may disclose sensitive information
Description: A buffer overflow issue was addressed with improved memory
handling.
WebKit Bugzilla: 254781
CVE-2023-32423: Ignacio Sanmillan (@ulexec)
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: A remote attacker may be able to break out of Web Content
sandbox. Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been
actively exploited.
Description: The issue was addressed with improved bounds checks.
WebKit Bugzilla: 255350
CVE-2023-32409: Clément Lecigne of Google's Threat Analysis Group and
Donncha Ó Cearbhaill of Amnesty International’s Security Lab
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing web content may disclose sensitive information. Apple
is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited.
Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input
validation.
WebKit Bugzilla: 254930
CVE-2023-28204: an anonymous researcher
This issue was first addressed in Rapid Security Response macOS 13.3.1
(a).
WebKit
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: Processing maliciously crafted web content may lead to arbitrary
code execution. Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been
actively exploited.
Description: A use-after-free issue was addressed with improved memory
management.
WebKit Bugzilla: 254840
CVE-2023-32373: an anonymous researcher
This issue was first addressed in Rapid Security Response macOS 13.3.1
(a).
Wi-Fi
Available for: macOS Ventura
Impact: An app may be able to disclose kernel memory
Description: This issue was addressed with improved redaction of
sensitive information.
CVE-2023-32389: Pan ZhenPeng (@Peterpan0927) of STAR Labs SG Pte. Ltd.
Additional recognition
Accounts
We would like to acknowledge Sergii Kryvoblotskyi of MacPaw Inc. for
their assistance.
CloudKit
We would like to acknowledge Iconic for their assistance.
libxml2
We would like to acknowledge OSS-Fuzz, Ned Williamson of Google Project
Zero for their assistance.
Reminders
We would like to acknowledge Kirin (@Pwnrin) for their assistance.
Rosetta
We would like to acknowledge Koh M. Nakagawa of FFRI Security, Inc. for
their assistance.
Safari
We would like to acknowledge Khiem Tran for their assistance.
Security
We would like to acknowledge Brandon Toms for their assistance.
Share Sheet
We would like to acknowledge Kirin (@Pwnrin) for their assistance.
Wallet
We would like to acknowledge James Duffy (mangoSecure) for their
assistance.
Wi-Fi
We would like to acknowledge an anonymous researcher for their
assistance.
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In February, we looked at accessibility, something of a companion topic to January’s focus on health.
Accessibility is usually associated with individuals who have handicaps: vision problems, hearing problems, and mobility issues. But hearing, vision, and mobility problems are things everyone encounters, and your Macintosh, Apple Watch, iPhone, and iPad have technologies that help you deal with temporary as well as more permanent afflictions.
One of the most basic is changing the size of items displayed on your Mac, iPhone, Watch, or iPad.
You can, for example, vary the size of text,
from small, in instances where you want a lot of stuff on the screen at once, to
normal, for comfortable reading
to large, for reading at a distance
to extra large, for posters or shouting.
You can also change other attributes how information is displayed, depending on the program and context
Somethimes, you can change the background color on the screen,
or tint the screen and text to get rid of blue colors late at night, to help you sleep.
Your iPhone, iPad, and Mac can also speak to you, and you can speak to them.
Unfortunately, Zoom seems to have disabled many of these features, partly because the changes are intended for the user sitting at their own computer, and not for the screens of viewers. Additionally, the demo computer’s screen was being mirrored on a TV, and some of the accessibility features were not available, as the TV was a remote device, not subject to the whims of the computer.
What could not be shown: changing the resolution of the screen. While this was a Macintosh screen, you can do similar things on an iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch.
This was a screen on the computer. The Displays pane (System Settings > Displays in Ventura) is set at Larger Text,
macOS Ventura System Settings > Displayed set at Larger Text
In this image, the Displays pane (System Settings > Displays in Ventura) is set at the second level, to show more of the screen,
macOS Ventura System Settings > Displays set to show more screen.
In this image, the Displays pane (System Settings > Displays in Ventura) is set at the default level, halfway between Large Text and More Space.
macOS Ventura System Settings > Displays set to the middle, default setting.
In this image, the Displays pane (System Settings > Displays in Ventura) is set to show more of the screen.
macOS Ventura System Settings > Displays set to show more of the screen.
In the final image, the Displays pane (System Settings > Displays in Ventura) is set to show the maximum amount of screen space.
macOS Ventura System Settings > Displays set to show the maximum amount of screen space.
You can easily change the screen resolution at any time. Writing a memo? Set to show larger text. Sorting photos? Set to show more of the screen. You don’t need to strain your eyes to read or write, nor spend endless amounts of time scrolling through lists of photos when it is a simple matter to show more photos at once. Designing a poster? Set to maximum screen size, then set it for larger text to work on fine details.
It was also difficult to demonstrate many of the things you can do with Siri because the Mac is set up to serve the person at the keyboard, and not people in remote locations. In response to one question concerning dictation of messages and documents on the Mac, please see Apple’s online guidance:
Your iPhone, if you carry it with you, can also track medications, complete with alarms, can track steps, distance, car crashes (and alert 911), link in to your online medical record and allow you to carry it around in your pocket or purse, guide you through yoga, exercises, meditation, provide background sounds for sleep, silence alarms and calls (except emergencies) so you can get a good night’s rest. The magnifying app on your iPhone can enlarge your bill so you can see it, or illuminate your door lock at night, or set timers for events, or help you fine-tune your hearing aids…
Even the Apple TV can get involved, displaying workout coaches, yoga, and fitness coaches on your TV.
But there is more, of course: you can set your Mac to provide distraction-free work time, or be quiet so you can sleep, or simply not interrupt you when you need to concentrate. You can customize the font size to see more clearly, or simply see more. You can adjust the sound to your hearing, or have the Mac hear for you and turn speech into text. Or go the other way, and turn text into speech.
If you click on the YouTube logo, or the “Watch on YouTube” button, you can get a much larger video image.
We turned on closed captioning, and this is a transcript of what was said. It isn’t always accurate, but it is often hilarious in unintended ways.
18:28:51 Hmm.
18:28:54 Okay, you should see a little red recording thing someplace on the screen
18:29:04 Saying that I'm recording
18:29:10 Okay, hey? As usual, we're gonna start with question and answer.
18:29:14 Anybody have any questions that they have
18:29:19 Yes.
18:29:18 I do. I wonder if you have any comments on the recent article about last Pass being hacked, and what you think about one password which I use?
18:29:33 And should we be worried
18:29:36 I'm glad some brought that up, because it's something that I was going to mention.
18:29:40 15,
18:29:41 The password managers, the I'll I'll back into the to answering your question.
18:29:50 Password, managers have been out for quite some time, starting with people writing little sticky notes and sticking onto their computer, saying to log in use this secret password which is really helpful to someone breaking into your home because that way they won't have any trouble stealing your computer but
18:30:08 Password managers. I highly endorse using them because our world has become too complicated.
18:30:15 You should never use the same password for more than one account.
18:30:20 So if you log into your bank, it should be a completely different a password.
18:30:26 Than what you use to go to Qfc. To get fuel points and other things that you might do.
18:30:33 So every password should be unique, and that's difficult to keep track of.
18:30:43 Oh!
18:30:37 So I use a password manager in the last I time I looked I had something like 900 passwords, but my life is a little bit more complicated than most people.
18:30:46 I use one password, and I have probably for 10 years.
18:30:52 Oh, quite a while. Yup!
18:30:56 You mean that you use the password manager called 1 one passport to the otherwise it sounds like you only use one
18:31:02 Oh, yes, I use the password manager call one password.
18:31:07 And so does Kathleen. We have a family plan, so that we we pay one subscription for the year.
18:31:18 It covers both of us, and one of the things that allows us to do is that for things that we need to share most of the stuff I don't want to know what Kathleen has.
18:31:29 We don't share. We have, we have independent email accounts.
18:31:31 We have an independent apple idea accounts. We have independent computer.
18:31:37 Because Kathleen is a a nurse, and she's clergy and got a Phd.
18:31:44 And I don't have any of that stuff. And the people she talks to, and the kinds of things she's interested in really don't.
18:31:49 There's not that much overlap with me. So her contacts, her passwords for logins are very different than mine, but there are some that we like to share.
18:32:01 Like, for example, she is addicted to what's the name of that show?
18:32:11 Oh!
18:32:08 Scottish soldier and the American professor. Oh, you say it!
18:32:28 Outland.
18:32:18 I can't take it. Anyway, there shows that she likes that that we strength, and she wants the passwords for those so she can log into so outlook.
18:32:29 I'll find it. That's it.
18:32:31 Outlander. Yes, so so there's things that we do share.
18:32:34 And then most of the stuff we keep separate, and one password allows us to do that.
18:32:39 So we both have independent accounts, but there are some that we can share, and in one password it encrypts it both on our computer as well as it encrypts it in the cloud where they are stored, and we we we use it and it makes life easier your Mac.
18:33:01 Has a password manager built into it, called Key Chain.
18:33:06 It used to be very, very good, cryptic, and difficult to understand.
18:33:10 And now it's less cryptic. But it's still pretty cryptic, but it's free, and it's on your Mac.
18:33:15 A lot of people find it very difficult to figure out how to use it, and one password is definitely easier and more visual than than Keychain.
18:33:25 The other nice thing about one password is that one password has both a Mac and a PC.
18:33:32 It's also got to PC version, but it's got a Mac, but it's also got an iphone version.
18:33:38 And for us, the ability to carry the passwords around on your phone is really useful, plus you can store things other than passwords in there like birthday to relative zoom.
18:33:49 Okay? Anything, anything, any kind of security notes you want? I have a list of drugs.
18:33:54 So every time I go into see the doctor, and they say, check your drug list and tell if it's up to date, and I sit there and think.
18:34:02 I have no idea what it's on it. So I just look at my list it's on my phone, and it's stored in one password.
18:34:07 So that's what I use. What had happened is that after one password became fairly well-known.
18:34:15 Then a bunch of competitors came out, and one of them was called last past and last past was originally.
18:34:21 It would only store passwords for websites, and it stored them on account on your browser.
18:34:29 That proved to be a less than ideal place to store that because anybody stealing your computer would then had access to everything that you logged into.
18:34:38 So they came up with a cloud based solution. And about 7 or 8 years ago I started telling people don't use one last pass because they got half, and that was 7 or 8 years ago.
18:34:51 It was before we moved to the back to Washington State, and that just did not impress me at all.
18:34:58 However, 2, 3 weeks ago they well, it was actually longer than that.
18:35:07 In November they were hacked, and they kept it secret for a while, but in November, when they were hacked they stole millions of passwords, billions of accounts, plus all the passwords of those millions of accounts so we're talking about hundreds
18:35:24 Of millions of passwords were stolen, and they weren't just regular passwords, because this is with the name of the person who owns it, and that just listed it.
18:35:34 It was. It was like they went to a shopping list of everything there is to know about you, and they got it when one fell through which is really bad on a scale of one to 10.
18:35:44 That's a 14 at least. So it's really really bad.
18:35:47 And I don't recommend that anybody you ever use last pass, because I don't think they're gonna survive this. Did you have a question?
18:35:54 Maggie, you're muted
18:36:00 You're still muted
18:36:01 I I thought I read that it wasn't such a threat, because everything was encrypted
18:36:09 I read it in the Cattle Times
18:36:11 No, it's not. That's not true.
18:36:13 No. Okay.
18:36:15 What last pass did is they released a press release, saying that their stuff was encrypted.
18:36:21 Their stuff is encrypted, but it was encrypted from your machine to last past, but when they have to last, pass it was not encrypted on their server, so they got everything, and they have been less than red that the less than forthcoming about what happened.
18:36:41 Which is one reason why a lot of us have just said, no, we're not gonna give you a second chance we're done with you because they should know to p. 5 people that immediately they didn't.
18:36:52 They waited a month and a half, they said, it only affected a few accounts, tens of millions of people is more than just a few.
18:37:02 I mean, there's they basically haven't said anything that was the least bit truthful since this happened.
18:37:07 So I do not recommend that anyone use last pass, and if you do use one last pass switch to something else and change every single password, you have, it's important, speaking of which in these breaches it's important to to change passwords that you don't think are important
18:37:29 There are some passwords I use that are just throw away, like, for example, there's this, there's this site that has these custom screens.
18:37:39 So when you launch your browser, you get this pretty picture, and you have to have an account.
18:37:43 Okay, I, I, gave him a username and I gave him a a password for that.
18:37:49 But the user name is fake, and the password I don't bother to remember, so do I.
18:37:54 Keep track of that? No, have I security, didn't, anyway, absolutely not.
18:38:00 Do I care if it's ever hacked? No, because it's really not tied to me.
18:38:04 But if you have a password to Qfc.
18:38:07 And Qfc. Gets hacked. And you say, well, I don't have any account information.
18:38:11 It just keeps track of my fuel point. Well, there are other things that Qfc.
18:38:15 Keeps track of such as everything that you buy there. So there are lots of sense.
18:38:20 There's lots of sensitive information about you other than just your bank account, and and whether or not you've successfully quit smoking and other things about you that you probably don't want to have as general knowledge.
18:38:36 So anytime somebody has a a, a data breach. If you're involved in that data breach, even if you don't think that account is important, go in and change all your information, or just delete the account, it's really hard.
18:38:48 If you delete an account the way most systems are set up.
18:38:52 Somebody can't create a new account in your in that name.
18:38:56 They have to create a different one. So if you're not using account, delete it, if the accounts been hacked, change everything about it, or delete the account.
18:39:06 But you want to be. You want to be paranoid about this, and I definitely do not recommend using last pass because they just they haven't been forthcoming.
18:39:18 And what what they've done, and that's a bad sign.
18:39:24 You close account
18:39:23 I really bad sign and on it I'm a more typical user.
18:39:31 I have a phone in 70 items overall and about 350 or logins, and then after that, I've got 40 secure notes.
18:39:40 A lot of that has to do with church stuff, and then 26 passwords where it's just a password and 23 memberships work team reward programs.
18:39:55 Oh, it does let you keep your passport information, so I've got more in my passport information in in there, in case we ever need it, and I've got one personal identity for me.
18:40:09 So you know, you don't use everything all the time, but there's a whole lot of options, and it will let you archive things.
18:40:16 So if you have accounts that you closed. But you want to keep track of what you used to have, you can put it in archive, and that's useful.
18:40:27 Last password, last password. One password also has another feature that I really like.
18:40:32 If you change your password, it keeps track of the old passwords, and why, that's useful.
18:40:39 Recently I had a service that I used, that they crashed, and they said that they restored it back to 2 weeks ago.
18:40:47 Well, I changed my password a week ago, but because it had my previous password, I could log in again, and so it that's a that's something that most people won't really take advantage.
18:41:01 But in the kind of security work that I use, it's it's handy sometimes to have old passwords
18:41:07 So, Lawrence, can you clarify, then, the difference between one password and last pass?
18:41:16 And it sounds like you feel we're safe. If we have one password
18:41:22 Okay.
18:41:19 I do believe you're safe. If you have one password, one password is just a completely different company.
18:41:24 They started from the beginning with, they wanted to keep track of confidential information.
18:41:32 They wanted to make it usable in more than one place, meaning that.
18:41:37 That's why they that's why they have it available for the iphone.
18:41:40 Because you carried your iphone around with you as well as on your Mac, and it works on ipads, and so on, so forth.
18:41:48 But it's you can use it. Mobile places, and from the very beginning they encrypted everything.
18:41:53 It's encrypted on my phone. It's encrypted in their cloud storage it encrypts things when it passes between my phone and their cloud and coming back, they've been very good about that recently.
18:42:09 They come in to for some criticism with some developers because of the the newest version, the way they architected it.
18:42:18 But unless you're a programmer, it's not really an issue that you care about a lot of Mac programmers didn't like the way they, the programming.
18:42:26 But it's not has nothing to do with how it's used.
18:42:28 It's just they didn't like the way the programming was done.
18:42:31 But other than that no, I we've used it for I think, 10 years, and we knowd never had any particular problems.
18:42:41 The other nice thing about it because of the way that it works.
18:42:44 When we, when Kathleen got her new iphone, we just synced it to what we had stored on Icloud.
18:42:55 Everything, getting back, including the first thing we have check was one password to make sure it had all of our passwords.
18:43:01 And yep it was all there just the way it was supposed to be.
18:43:04 So while we're definite fans because it works
18:43:08 How much? How much does one password cost
18:43:12 I don't know that, because at 1 point it's one password 8.
18:43:18 You just check it out in a minute.
18:43:18 Now we don't. Yeah, we have one password, 7, and the latest one is one password 8, and they've changed the way they bond a lot and so on. So forth.
18:43:27 We bought it a long time ago, where there was a family plan.
18:43:29 We paid one price, and so how much it actually costs if you buying it, I don't know and it used to be that when you bought it once, and you got it for your Mac and for your iphone and now you have to pay them separately.
18:43:43 They? They, they can store things and exchange them. It's just that the copy on your iphone you have to purchase separates from the copy on your Mac.
18:43:50 But the answer is, I don't know how much it costs
18:43:53 Yeah.
18:43:53 I do. I just look. I just looked at my email mine just renewed for 2 computers my husband, myself.
18:44:00 And it was $59 and 85 cents for the year.
18:44:05 Oh!
18:44:06 Nice
18:44:05 Not bad for what you get, however, that as a renewal might not be the same as a as a new subscription.
18:44:09 Oh, okay.
18:44:11 Yeah.
18:44:12 So again, I just, I don't have to know that. Yeah. So if you want to look at it.
18:44:16 But remember, Keychain works on all of them, and it's free
18:44:20 Yes, chain works on all of them is free.
18:44:23 The reason why I'm the reason why I promote one password is key chain is the interfaces.
18:44:29 Confusing. It's very easy to to not find something that is there with with one password, you basically tell it what it is.
18:44:39 You, you're storing, and how you want it found.
18:44:42 So, for example, I'm the webmaster for Trinity, United Methodist Church.
18:44:49 I also run Trinity, United Methodist Churches, Youtube Channel, and I run Trinity, and I, Methodist churches network.
18:44:58 So there I have a whole bunch of different things for Trinity, but I can tag them in one password.
18:45:02 Say, this is for this, this is for that, this is for this, this is for that.
18:45:06 So when I go search for it, it tells me which which one of those trendy accountants I'm finding in Ketane.
18:45:13 It just tends to just jumble them all together, and you just have to.
18:45:15 Oh, for the best, as you're going through all these listings for Trinity, that you're hitting on the right password.
18:45:22 So I like that. I like one password, simply because it's easier for most people to use, including me.
18:45:27 Yeah. So if you want to look it up, it's www, dot, and then the number one in the word password altogether.
18:45:36 Com. That's their site.
18:45:43 Yes.
18:45:41 I have a question, Lawrence. I was watching the news last night, and they had an story about a Pegasus software taking control of iphones.
18:45:53 And I was wondering our iphones really vulnerable to the Pegasus software hack that.
18:46:01 Let's take over the phone without you knowing it.
18:46:06 That is a complicated question, and the reason why it's a complicated question is that Pegasus was actually developed.
18:46:14 Yeah, hey? Combination between the Israeli government and some commercial and a commercial firm, and the way in which they developed it, they did find some vulnerabilities in Ios operating system and the way in which they did.
18:46:30 It was really, really expensive. They know, went out and bought thousands of idols.
18:46:37 Then they beat on them in different ways until they figured out how to break in.
18:46:41 It cost tens of millions of dollars for them, to develop.
18:46:44 Pegasus, and the way that Pegasus works is that it puts something on your phone that that basically creates a little space that's allows the Pegasus to track you creates a little space on the phone.
18:47:00 Then it stores things that it sees, and then periodically it dumps it off to Pegasus and Apple really didn't have a defense for that at the time, but since then they've come up with multiple defenses that have has basically caused pegasus and problems.
18:47:17 But they people who make Pegasus keep on trying to to modify it.
18:47:24 It's. It's extremely complicated to put on a phone.
18:47:28 And it's extremely complex to run it so before you and me, it's not really an issue, but for for for what they call state actors, a State actor can be a foreign agent in the United States, or it can be you representing the United States, going to another country country, for State actors.
18:47:50 You have to be a little bit careful because you're not just one of 330 million.
18:47:56 At that point. You're one American and China working and Russia, and you become a target.
18:48:01 When I worked for Noah, for example, I was not allowed to go on foreign travel, using my own personal phone or my work phone.
18:48:11 What they would do is they would issue me a special phone just for that trip.
18:48:25 Put something on it. It wouldn't stay, and while I was overseas and I was talking back to the United States I could send an email back to work.
18:48:35 But because it came from that special phone. It went through a completely different process to make sure that nothing I was sending back.
18:48:42 Would cause problems and that's the kind of effort to that you have to take.
18:48:49 Because if you, if you are a known representative of a country oh, they're countries are wayling to spend millions of dollars to find out what you're doing now.
18:48:58 I worked in environmental science, you might think, yeah, who cares about that?
18:49:02 That is really, really, really sensitive information when you're dealing with China and Japan and Korea and Russia and other countries, because the assumption is that I must know something that that they could use for economic or political benefit.
18:49:22 Now in practice, what I did is I ran websites, and if you want to know what I did just go to no website and it's right there.
18:49:28 But the the fact is that you are a target in that in that particular kind of case, but in terms of the individual.
18:49:36 No, nobody's going to spend $1520,000,000 trying to hack your phone.
18:49:41 It's expensive to do this sort of thing, and it's expensive to make it to make it work
18:49:46 Do you know if I asked 15? Is is it is vulnerable or not? Or
18:49:52 Yeah.
18:49:53 The answer is, if somebody, if somebody can touch your phone if they can physically touch your phone, even with Ios 15, there are ways to compromise it.
18:50:04 But remotely break into it. No, they really can't do that.
18:50:09 And the way in which it's set up. If they remotely try and break into it. What they do is they end up in this little void that yes, they might have successfully gotten into the phone, but it doesn't go anywhere
18:50:21 So, what do you mean by touch your phone? You mean somebody using your phone?
18:50:24 That's not you.
18:50:25 If they physically attach it. Your phone has right on the bottom of it's got this little port here for the for the like, for the lightning cable.
18:50:36 How can I completely disappear to the screen anyway, it's got this little lightning part right down at the bottom, which means it's somebody can stick something into your phone and depending upon what else is going on.
18:50:46 For example, if my phone is unlocked and they stick something that into my phone, they have access.
18:50:53 So. But if they don't touch your phone, it's it's it's it's not impossible.
18:50:58 But it it's it. It costs millions of dollars to break into an iphone.
18:51:04 If you keep
18:51:06 How did it go
18:51:06 And if it's just sitting on a table, but it's locked, and they pick it up.
18:51:10 There's really not a heck of a lot they can do with it, either, because unless it's unlocked, there's a famous case or this guy in a a cyber, he he had this thing called Pirates Bay and the FBI wanted to get a hold of his
18:51:26 Of his information, and they rent a sting operation, and they had him.
18:51:32 He. They knew he's going to be in this coffee shop in San Francisco, and his his laptop was unlocked, and this very attractive woman, who was an FBI agent, pretended to stumble, and fall.
18:51:43 He got up to go and help her. They grabbed his laptop because it was unlocked.
18:51:47 If it had been locked it would have just been a brick
18:51:52 And your your phone's pretty much the same way
18:51:58 Yes.
18:51:53 I have a question. Hi, just upgraded to Ventura, and I'm disappointed.
18:52:07 So, safari doesn't work. Yeah, I I should see differently.
18:52:16 I go in terms of computer and click on safari, and nothing happened.
18:52:24 Then I go and check my Internet. It's all on.
18:52:31 I can do nothing. I have to. I have to go and shut off the computer again.
18:52:38 Make a restart, and if I'm lucky, then safari works that did anybody upgraded already to Ventura
18:52:49 We I have probably done at this point several 100 Ventura updates for various machines, and I have not no any trouble whatsoever.
18:53:00 That sounds like you have a faulty cash. You have something stuck in your in your cache, and if you can get into so far, I just go into safari.
18:53:11 I don't remember what I'd actually asked you to do now.
18:53:15 What should I do? Clear to cash
18:53:17 Well, it's more than just clear the cash, I think it says Reset, or something
18:53:24 I'm a loader
18:53:31 Yes.
18:53:28 Well, I have a comment about that Ventura.
18:53:34 I experienced it. I was working on my work computer and I wasn't aware that we were not to update Ventura because there's a lot of bugs.
18:53:45 And so when I did I couldn't get into any of my.
18:53:49 I couldn't access any of the information to continue so I had to call the it Gurus, and they go. Okay.
18:53:58 Well, you just go up to the magnifying glass and type in safari, and you can access your safari that way, and then you can bypass the bugs.
18:54:10 And I'm like, I think this is more than just bypassing bugs.
18:54:13 Everything was frozen and I would try to scroll down, so I called the guy 5 times, and finally he went in and did some cash and some cookies, and then it started working.
18:54:26 But it was really odd. And then I asked the people at work.
18:54:30 I go. Well, y'all aren't using venture.
18:54:34 And no, you never update your computer at work because there's a problem with that I go. Okay.
18:54:37 Well, now I know it. It was pretty bad
18:54:40 I will, I will tell you that that sounds like spectacularly bad technical advice, a venture is as rock solid as you can get.
18:54:49 Well.
18:54:49 Usually when people have problems, there's a and there's an existing problem on their computer.
18:54:56 And when they put when they put in Ventura on it, it just magnified the problem.
18:55:01 But there was already the existing problem, and one of the first things you should do before you do an upgrade of any kind is to check the healthier machine and the easiest way to do that is just go through.
18:55:12 Get rid of all of your dump, all your junk, mail, dump all your trash, launch, disc utility, and make sure your hard drive isn't healthy, and then then you can do an update.
18:55:25 But we everything else
18:55:27 Well, you're talking to somebody who doesn't know it.
18:55:29 So alright. I called the it department, and they actually, I mean, this is a pretty big company.
18:55:38 They're all over the United States. And they told everyone not to update on that Ventura because it had a lot of bugs that were creating problems.
18:55:47 So you're probably right. It's their system, that's all messed up
18:55:51 Okay, I would believe that it could be that it the company.
18:55:56 I will. I'll give you an example. One of the big brokerage houses shut down for 2 and a half weeks in December, because they they they suddenly realized that that Microsoft was not going to Update windows 8.1 anymore.
18:56:15 The they stopped doing it security updates for 8.1.
18:56:18 If you're not in windows 10, you're basically host.
18:56:23 Well, they were refusing to update their systems because their systems would not work with windows. 10.
18:56:30 They were taking advantage of some bugs to do things that that Microsoft told them
18:56:51 Oops!
18:56:51 Right.
18:56:51 Then we got hold cold at their house
18:56:51 You're frozen
18:56:53 Yes.
18:56:51 Microsoft did it. Microsoft did it
18:56:53 2 weeks updated the system. Pardon
18:56:54 You're frozen, Larry. Oh, you were frozen!
18:56:57 You.
18:56:58 Your back, now
18:56:59 Oh!
18:56:51 Oh, probably a minute, or almost
18:57:02 We may
18:57:02 I'm sorry this brokerage house they shut down in December for 2 weeks, because their systems were not compatible with windows. 10.
18:57:13 They were using windows 8 and Microsoft said that they were windows.
18:57:16 8 was dead in, so they had to upgrade to windows 10, and they couldn't update to winows 10, because the brokerage house was refusing to update their systems.
18:57:28 And so, in December it cost him 200 million dollars to shut down for 2 weeks so they could get upgrade to their systems and be compatible with windows 10, which isn't the current version of windows.
18:57:40 So there's still one version behind. But it's very possible that that this company has software that won't work with with Ventura.
18:57:49 That's that's a different thing. Than saying there's a problem with Ventura itself.
18:57:54 I'm just
18:57:54 Chris, in case you had a comment
18:57:59 Okay.
18:57:58 Well, I have a question. I have been hounded by Verizon for a couple of years.
18:58:07 Warning me that my flip phone would turn into a brick by December thirty-first.
18:58:16 So in late November I went to our local Verizon store and invested in
18:58:27 Oh!
18:58:26 And iphone 14, and found myself falling for their offer for and
18:58:38 Yeah.
18:58:49 Yes.
18:58:38 Mud. Come on, there, I've and as he second generation smart watch apple watch which I had, I had to sneak through all the paperwork that I accumulated in order to find out which version of the se it was so I've been having great fun not upgrading
18:59:06 My computers, which I also acquired at the end of November, because I've been absorbed by the relationship between the apple watch and the iphone, and also that I've got to go through my list of all the phone numbers.
18:59:24 I wrote down before my flip phone turned into a little break, because, of course, what Verizon was able to load was about 8 years old.
18:59:36 The contact information so long, long way into a basic question. I've been plugging and unplugging into the wall.
18:59:47 The cables to charge the watch and the iphone, and of course there are 2 different tables.
18:59:56 I'd like to avoid plugging and unplugging.
19:00:01 And would appreciate any advice on how to do that. My sister had convinced me that I should get this Gizmo stuck on the back of the iphone in order to better hold it. And so I got that that being said, what's your advice
19:00:21 So I I have a handy, dandy thing. I just got it today.
19:00:25 It has the watch on one side and the lightning on the other.
19:00:30 It's a high speed, relatively high speed apple.
19:00:38 Brandon.
19:00:35 Approved charger. You plug one thing into the wall, and you have 2 2 gizmos
19:00:45 This is a morphine, but there's many different, which is basically I don't know.
19:00:54 Yeah.
19:00:54 It keeps on disappearing. But anyway, it's a it's a it's a little platform that I keep on disappearing, too.
19:01:04 Oh, that's nice, too.
19:00:59 Yeah, there you go. It's a platform that you lay the phone down to charge on it, and it's got a watch charger on it so you can.
19:01:11 They both are on the same thing. The the new phones can charge by induction as long as you have a case that's allows it.
19:01:20 Hmm.
19:01:17 As long as the key, and so
19:01:22 No, okay, but it's but it's got this stuck on the back
19:01:27 Okay. So I can't
19:01:30 It'll still work.
19:01:37 Yeah.
19:01:38 Yeah, I have
19:01:32 I'm not sure that it will. That might previously be too large a gap for it to work, but but there are several places that sell things like the morph you will have charges just fine, lane flat on that.
19:01:47 It has a clear K case on it, and this also has little in Dent to it, where, if you got a you're airpods you can put them on here.
19:02:00 So you charge 3 things at once, and it just it's a matter of laying them on.
19:02:04 There's nothing we plug in. You just set them on the device
19:02:06 Oh, this is how much space it takes up on the back
19:02:12 Yeah. But the the trouble is that the it's the back of the phone.
19:02:18 Yeah.
19:02:17 That's that has to touch the in the charging pad, and if the back of the phone is covered, if there's an air gap, I don't know that it'll work because it's done magnetically.
19:02:28 Yeah, see, I think that creates too much space for that to work
19:02:34 Thank you.
19:02:36 But there are options that's that's the point.
19:02:39 Yeah, I've got one in the study. That's a clock with a
19:02:34 Hi, okay. I wanted to mention one good thing with with Ventura is, I'm sorry
19:02:49 Go ahead!
19:02:53 Why not?
19:02:53 Yeah, I wanted to say, it's a good thing in Ventura.
19:03:00 Absolutely good if we have it in Beta, you can take people on Youtube.
19:03:09 Some speak slow. That wouldn't be a problem, but some speak fast, and it instantly goes and and writes it down.
19:03:21 What the person is speaking, even if fast-speaking person, and you don't have to be on the Internet, it does it right through the computer.
19:03:32 But but you need to the the new apple process of what, hey?
19:03:37 Yes.
19:03:39 I I got the studio and said fast enough, I mean it just writes 3 limestone, and you can also speak to it, and it writes everything down.
19:03:49 So that is very, very good. Okay.
19:03:52 Yes, I believe it or not. That's actually been in Mac OS for a while.
19:03:58 Oh, 15 years or so, but it's much better now than it was before, and the new processor, death definitely does help Marcy.
19:04:08 Did you have a question? You're you're on mute
19:04:14 More of a statement I had sent you an email about trying to get the hard drive out of our our Mac, because the the people at Apple wouldn't take it out for us, and you set us a video on how to get it out and I just wanted to let you know that we did
19:04:37 Okay.
19:04:37 it. We we got our hard drive out. And so we can recycle the rest of the computer.
19:04:44 And it wasn't that difficult
19:04:47 It's it's not that difficult if you know how, but if you don't know how it can be
19:04:54 Okay.
19:04:53 Yes, I'm going to paste in in the bottom of the chat window.
19:04:58 The attendance form, he made one. Yeah.
19:05:03 I would like that video
19:05:07 Me too
19:05:08 Well, actually, there are different kinds of videos depending upon what kind of your computer?
19:05:15 Oh!
19:05:13 1 one video doesn't cover all the computers, because an Imac is different than then.
19:05:19 And then a Mac mini is so. But if you go into, if you go into Youtube and just say how to remove a drive and and say what model you have.
19:05:29 There are usually videos to tell you how to take them apart.
19:05:33 Most people want to take them apart because they want to replace the drive.
19:05:35 But if you want to just remove it so you can recycle it.
19:05:39 No, that works too. Yeah.
19:05:42 And it's 70'clock now. So we should think about doing the program
19:05:47 One quick question, does factory data restart, wipe a computer clean
19:05:56 Factory reset which computer
19:06:04 Oh, I just any computer. But I have a a map that I got in 2,017.
19:06:14 I Mac desktop
19:06:16 Okay. The reason is that they reset can mean different things depending upon context.
19:06:22 Sometimes reset means, set the set the operating system back to factory defaults, which is one thing that does something, but it doesn't erase the content.
19:06:35 That's already on the drive. You may not see it, but it can still be there.
19:06:40 The best way to to erase the drive is to erase the drive, is you you?
19:06:47 There's a way to boot into a virtual disc that's already on your machine, and then erase the drive.
19:06:56 And that's basically the only way to get rid of everything off the machine.
19:07:00 The or digosit are just take the drive out and beat it with a, but beat it with a hammer.
19:07:05 The factory reset usually resets the operating system.
19:07:09 In case something's corrupted. It's not.
19:07:12 It's not the same as a wipe computer.
19:07:13 The hammer sounds like the best way
19:07:17 A hammer. The nice thing about the hammer is that it's ruthless, and it can be very satisfying, dependent upon your state of mind at the time
19:07:26 Hmm! I have a question also about Google. And I.
19:07:34 I wrote it, if they sent me in a little, and says, Protect your privacy.
19:07:40 This is a reminder that you have your web and act and app activity setting turned on
19:07:48 And should I have this on or not?
19:07:52 That is a excellent question. Google is doing that because the it used the United States has no so you don't disappear.
19:08:04 The United States has no see, it doesn't make any difference where they sit forward.
19:08:08 I have no idea what it's doing, and it just doesn't like me.
19:08:11 I am going to get rid of the virtual background. Hold on a second
19:08:15 Good.
19:08:16 Crazy, then look
19:08:22 There you go!
19:08:24 No, you won't
19:08:28 Much better.
19:08:28 What was I gonna say?
19:08:31 I got that, too, the email.
19:08:33 Okay.
19:08:33 If you use Google, you probably got it. He us has no privacy laws.
19:08:39 The commercial firms are are entitled to steal you blind.
19:08:43 And there's really no nothing to stop them from doing that.
19:08:49 The only privacy laws are. The Federal government is prohibited from doing things spying on you, but not private private companies.
19:08:57 However, in Europe it's quite different. At Europe, Japan, Korea, it's quite different.
19:09:02 They have very strong privacy laws, and it used to be that Google tried to fence off the United States from the rest of the planet, and we just had our own separate no rules here, and everybody else had rules.
19:09:12 And Google decided that wasn't working because I kept on getting sued by the European Union as citizens of the European Union would come to the end of the United States.
19:09:24 Google would scarf up to private data. They go back to the EU and they'd sue them and Google got tired of doing that.
19:09:28 So now they apply the same rules to everybody, and that's why you got that notice, so that if you have a Google account, you gotta notice that they that you have activity tracking turned on.
19:09:41 Now, what the activity tracking is used for. If you live in swim and you go into maps, Google come, it'll give you this nice map, and you say, pizza.
19:09:52 It knows that you live in square, and it'll give you pizza restaurants in squim rather than pizza restaurants in Toronto or pizza, or something.
19:10:00 So it's nice that Google knows where you live. But if you don't want it to, then you can go into maps.
19:10:08 Google Com. And every time you launch into light math, Googlecom, you're left in the middle of the ocean, you have to specify where you are.
19:10:14 And it's just takes longer. So it's a convenience for Google to know quite a bit about you.
19:10:20 But you can go into Google and you can delete that information.
19:10:24 You can tell Google not track it, and so on. So forth.
19:10:28 The disadvantage is turning all that stuff off is that you have to work harder when you use Google.
19:10:33 Yeah, if you want to know? Like, yeah, there's a new doctor in town he's Doctors Tim Robinson. Okay?
19:10:40 So you type in Tim Robinson. Google knows you're in Dr.
19:10:44 Tamman Robinson, Google knows that you're in swim.
19:10:49 So when you type in Dr. Kim Robbinson, it looks for the area around you.
19:10:52 You don't have to specify what you are, and
19:10:53 So this is an effect car play. If you're going somewhere and you use Google Maps for car plan.
19:10:59 No, because that's that's well, that's a good question.
19:11:06 Well at home, so it knows what home. Yes, but that's part of the stuff that you told it to keep.
19:11:09 So, if you tell it not to keep track of it, I won't keep track of that right.
19:11:14 That's what I'm saying. That could be
19:11:14 Yeah, then it won't know how to give you a a route
19:11:18 Well, my location 2, and then a destination so it's it's you can still do that. But, for example, I will tell Google to take me home, and it'll just plot a plaque path home.
19:11:31 I don't have to tell it where home is, because it knows where my home is. But if I didn't tell it that yeah, I'd have to. I'd have to type in the address every time. Yeah, if you told it not to track then it doesn't know it doesn't retain
19:11:41 Oh, right? Right? I see. Thank you. Yeah.
19:11:44 Yeah, good point. But you but you'll see that on your phone. If you're using navigation, it comes up and asks you
19:11:56 I can't remember the exact wording, but but it's basically it does not assume your location.
19:12:02 You have to allow it. If you don't allow it, then you have to type it in one or the other, but it will ask, that's true.
19:12:09 Yeah, it does ask, okay.
19:12:13 Lawrence back to Keychain. I I use a site called Crafty, and it won't let key chain work
19:12:25 Some sites will not, and it has to do it has to do both with the browser.
19:12:30 But also has to do with how they do credentialing like, for example, key chain won't work with most banks.
19:12:38 We use Navy, Federal Credit Union, and it will not use the cached password.
19:12:42 You have to type it in every time, and that's part of their own security to keep people from stealing passwords
19:12:49 It works fine with vecu
19:12:53 I'm not gonna comment on that
19:12:56 It shouldn't. Guessing is what you're saying.
19:12:58 Right? Right? It depends on
19:13:00 What it would work with one password
19:13:09 Okay.
19:13:04 No, even with those one password keeps track of it, but in terms of filling it in I use one password, but I do not let one password fill in my password.
19:13:15 I will look it up in one password, and then Tie it in from what I see, or you can copy, or you can copy paste.
19:13:20 But I will not let my browser automatically enter a password for anything
19:13:25 So you wouldn't use a key chain. I mean, I just I just click on there and
19:13:30 Depends on on the risk. Like, you know, if it's site that you have to log into to get information.
19:13:38 But there's no financial thing. It's simply a look up site.
19:13:49 Oh, okay.
19:13:44 Then sure key chains fine, but I would never use Keychain for a bank I don't use it for bank, for the hospital, for a lot of it's really sensitive information.
19:13:56 I wouldn't use Keychain
19:13:57 Can you explain why you type it in instead of letting one password fill it in?
19:14:03 I always let it fill it in for banks and everything. I didn't know there was a reason not to
19:14:07 Well, well, there are 2 reasons, first of all, for highly secure systems.
19:14:12 It won't allow those highly secure systems won't allow it.
19:14:17 It knows how people work, and if you start to log in and then instantly give it a password.
19:14:22 It says I'm not talking to a human. I'm talking to machine, so it just won't let you in.
19:14:27 Oh!
19:14:27 And and that's that's one reason. But the other reason is, I'm just again paranoid.
19:14:34 It's it's what I did for quarter century.
19:14:37 I I I did evil things with computers. So you know, I'm just paranoid
19:14:44 Okay. Thanks.
19:14:46 Can we go to our program? Or Chris has a question
19:14:50 Just just a reminder I have signed in the attendance form that's in the chat
19:14:59 Yes, yes, please sign.
19:15:00 And everybody. Everybody should do that.
19:15:05 How do you do it?
19:15:03 Yeah, please, please do that. It helps me. It's in the chat window.
19:15:08 Is the address? Just click on that link
19:15:13 Okay.
19:15:13 What? How do you want us to type
19:15:16 Your information.
19:15:16 Pardon me, it's a form. If you talk on the link, it will bring up a form, and you just fill in the form.
19:15:24 It says, Docs, Google, com forms click on that and their form pops up in your browser and you fill in the information before we get on with that.
19:15:37 Madam President, do you have anything you want to say?
19:15:40 Oh!
19:15:39 No Happy New Year, everybody and happy, belated. Merry Christmas, I guess, since we haven't seen each other
19:15:49 No, I I apologize for December getting canceled.
19:15:53 I got. Oh, but I've I've fully vaccinated all my boosters, and I've been very careful.
19:16:08 Oh, that's too bad!
19:15:59 But we went to a memorial service at a Masonic lodge, and 6 of the people from our church, who went all got sick with Covid, so I drug it home to him, and then I was really sick for 3 weeks, but 2 weeks I started getting a little better and that's after 2 weeks when he
19:16:17 Got sick. He was very proud of himself. We didn't get sick, and then he did so.
19:16:22 That's that's what happened. I I apologize. My fault
19:16:26 No worries. I hope you have both recovered and are feeling better, or back to normal
19:16:39 Well.
19:16:33 Yeah, I wish that on anybody I was. I was in bed for 2 weeks in the third week I was up, but I was coughing constantly.
19:16:43 I had 21 symptoms. I wouldn't wish that on anybody
19:16:46 Oh no!
19:16:48 And and just as an fy, I gotta notice from a vendor that the Forum software that's on our website is going to be renewed in a couple weeks and we'll have a bill for that.
19:17:03 It's not a huge amount, but just just fy that we're going to be spending some money, anything else before we get onto the presentation
19:17:12 Just wanted to think those of you that have already sent in your dues for this years very much appreciated.
19:17:21 There's still a few that, are missing, but for the most part I think everybody is paid, and I'll turn it over to the treasure, and she can give you the report.
19:17:32 Yeah, it was really great to see so many checks come in.
19:17:35 Thank you very much, and I think they were about 16.
19:17:43 I believe that came in. And just thank you for those who paid.
19:17:49 So that brought our balance now to $2,090 and 60 cents
19:17:57 Oh, that reminds me
19:18:01 Think about what you would like to do for an in person meeting.
19:18:07 Maybe, like April, May sometime, when it's, you know, light outside.
19:18:15 Yeah.
19:18:15 I would like to do one on troubleshooting, and for that I need to reboot a Mac, and so on and so forth, so I can't really do it via zoom.
19:18:23 So. But anything else you would like to do as an in-person thing, and if we do an in-person thing, and I also want to make sure that we invite the general community rather than just smug members.
19:18:35 I've been really surprised at the lack of computer sophistication in the local community moving from the DC.
19:18:48 Area back here I was. It's a very different world than what I've dealt with for the past 40 century.
19:18:55 Would this be at your church, Florence, if it's open for the community.
19:18:59 It might be at our church, or it might be some place else.
19:19:02 If it depends upon well, it depends on what date you want. But if it's if it's if I don't get that, there's not a a big problem or the
19:19:18 When we had the last meeting there I had a hard time seeing the screen, and I really don't have vision problems.
19:19:26 So I'm assuming others might have a problem. Is there a way of using a oh, my goodness!
19:19:31 What's it called a
19:19:32 Picture.
19:19:34 A projector.
19:19:32 Projector. Yeah, there's that dropdown. There is a dropdown screen.
19:19:39 I've never used it but it. But if we had a good projector, yeah, we could use a projector
19:19:42 Well, I can provide you the projector, you should know. That's not a problem
19:19:46 Okay, I'm just saying that. Yes, no. We've got a projector in the ceiling.
19:19:52 I don't. It's not that good. Yeah, that's why they have the TV screens, anyway.
19:19:57 But think about that. That's that's for a future day.
19:20:02 Really quickly. People are signing in here on the chat. That's not gonna do us very much good. You really
19:20:07 No, no! Click on the click on the link that I gave.
19:20:14 Don't type it into the chat, because
19:20:15 Where is that? In the email.
19:20:18 It's on the very top
19:20:18 Well, try to get again just copied in again, Don. At the bottom.
19:20:22 It says, at the bottom of your screen there's something that says Chat.
19:20:27 Right.
19:20:25 If you click on chat, there's a chat window on the side, and at the top of that there is the link, and I'll paste it again.
19:20:32 Oh!
19:20:32 Yeah, if he puts it in again, you'll see it as the bottom
19:20:33 Hi! Hi! Clicked on it, and the form did not come up
19:20:38 It should
19:20:38 Or hyperlink. It's the blue lettering.
19:20:41 Just click on that
19:20:41 Yeah. It's at the top
19:20:47 Yeah.
19:20:44 Good. It should open another screen. Another. Yeah, it it it. It should open another window
19:20:52 Yeah.
19:20:53 And it wants your email
19:20:56 I want your name, your email? Yes.
19:20:58 And what date you attended.
19:21:01 And what date you attended. Yes.
19:21:02 And there's only one day shown. So just check the box
19:21:08 Lawrence.
19:21:05 Yes, there's a reason why I do it that way.
19:21:11 It helps
19:21:11 Lauren, is there a way for you to turn up your microphone volume a little bit?
19:21:16 You're still so much lower than everybody else. I keep having to change up and down and up and down
19:21:21 I don't know why it's doing that. It's low for us to hear, too, and I'm not.
19:21:27 I don't know what the it might be. Zoom itself.
19:21:30 Yeah.
19:21:30 Let me go into zoom audio
19:21:33 Don't worry about it's not that bad.
19:21:36 It was just something I thought if it was easy
19:21:37 Yeah, but there you go.
19:21:41 Okay, let's see if that makes a difference. That help Eddie
19:21:45 Nope.
19:21:46 Oh, but I can hear you better, anyway.
19:21:48 Oh, wow! That's good!
19:21:52 Or any plenty land. Yeah.
19:21:57 That's better.
19:21:56 I don't know. I'm going to launch our presentation and for that I'm going to share share, screen, share, screen that button.
19:22:08 And we're gonna share that screen there. And we're gonna move this out of the way
19:22:22 There we go go to the beginning
19:22:26 Yeah.
19:22:31 Yeah, we go. Now. We're in the right place. So are you seeing things apple and health?
19:22:39 Okay.
19:22:39 Yes.
19:22:41 There's gonna be a demo, too. But we're gonna talk a bit first, and I'm going to let Kathleen do
19:23:00 And then we're gonna switch and let Lawrence talk about apple TV and Max.
19:23:04 But our, but our focus on this one is support for health.
19:23:08 I have some other things that we want to talk about illness, but but for the most part this is focused on. How do we stay?
19:23:14 Healthy.
19:23:16 And why didn't you work? No, there we go. So I'm a nurse, and my underlying mental image of how this works is that your body, your mind, your spirit, form a triangle, and they're interconnected and if something affects one it just as a triangle would
19:23:34 move, so whatever effects one will affect the other 2. So when I talk I'm going to talk about focus mostly on body, but not uniquely, and body has.
19:23:46 If you think of of it as a stool, we have 3 legs that are asked absolutely determinants of health, and the first one is what we eat and drink.
19:23:55 Our nutrition. The second one is our how active we are!
19:24:00 And the third one is, how well we sleep. Most people think about what we eat and how active we are.
19:24:09 But equally important is sleep. So we're going to focus on tools that help us with those things.
19:24:14 So on your apple watch. You can do a lot of tracking.
19:24:19 You my words. It would be data collection, but what it looks at the sensors in your watch.
19:24:26 It covers heart rate, and I gave you a link. We will post this.
19:24:32 We're gonna record it. We're posting it, and we've got the transcript.
19:24:34 But those links are taking you through almost everything to the apple support site and the specific article that tells you about that feature.
19:24:44 So don't don't panic. If you don't catch it all, it's it's in the links.
19:24:49 And so heart rate tells you it's a measure of how hard is your heart working.
19:24:57 And when I was really really sick, my resting heart rate is usually 50 to 60.
19:25:02 When I was really 6 my resting her. It was 80, so I knew something was wrong.
19:25:07 The other thing that can go wrong is that your heart rate can be irregular, and I don't know if you watch TV.
19:25:12 But if you do, there's ads all the time for people who have atrial fibrillation and drugs to treat it.
19:25:18 But they talk about. Don't ignore it. That's really important.
19:25:22 So one of the things that your watch does is it tracks how regular your beats are if your beats are what we call irregular irregular, there's no pattern to the irregularity it will give you a notification, and then there's our level, of activity.
19:25:39 I I call it more mobility here, because it's focused on your movement, and you can set it up to track things like your steps or your exercise like, if you ride a bicycle, it's not limited to that.
19:25:56 There's a ton of options of swimming, you know.
19:26:00 Your watch will also track your swimming. If you want to do that, and then there's your cardiovascular fitness, your heart health that is actually based upon your consumption of oxygen.
19:26:14 And so I did put in the screenshot for O.
19:26:18 2, but it but it does monitor your oxygen levels, and if it gets low it will alert the when I was sick with Covid.
19:26:24 Normally oxygen levels are 94% to 100.
19:26:30 And most people live at 97 98.
19:26:32 All things being good. When I was sick with Covid I was 85 to 94, and it gave me an alert.
19:26:42 That said, you're range has changed more than 10 points over the last 5 days.
19:26:48 I mean. It notified me of that. And then most people care about steps rather than the circles, and so I did put in my favorite app for for that type of thing which also includes speed and distance so like for cycling or some other types of activities is strava, that that's the
19:27:14 one that link, that I give you. That doesn't go to Apple.
19:27:18 It goes to a different company, and Strava has a low end version, and then it has a premium version.
19:27:26 We don't pay for the premium version. We use the low end.
19:27:29 But if you're really big into something like cycling then you're gonna want the the higher end.
19:27:36 Or there is specific cycling apps, but that but it to get something that's comprehensive.
19:27:41 You may have to spend not much money, but a little bit to get that level of detail.
19:27:47 But all these things are available to you with the watch, the way it is, and keep going other than Strava.
19:27:54 And so we'll explain these 2 you've got to watch faces here to show you just there's a simple 5 version, which is what I use and then there's a more complex version of this. This is this is Kathleen's watch grace.
19:28:09 And this is a screenshot of her actual watch face.
19:28:13 She shows the date in the time. She also wants the weather there, that on the upper left there's a little symbol for blood oxygen.
19:28:23 You taps that, and it'll give blood oxygen, and she taps the heart, and he'll give her a heart rate.
19:28:27 The down. Her activity rings are down at the bottom, and by the way, she took this screenshot early in the morning, and you can see by 845 she'd already done something, and then the ex exercise one does exercise tracking yeah. It. Will bring up. A menu that you can choose what kind.
19:28:47 Of exercise and start it, and the next one is my watch face, and very different.
19:29:03 Yes.
19:28:53 Kathleen absolutely hates my watch face so she can not find anything my daughter's comment, when she looked at this was, Oh, Dad, it also said, tells time, but but some of these things don't sound like they have anything to do with health like in the upper left.
19:29:10 There's I can press that button to get a voice mail.
19:29:14 But this is actually a safety feature. I can be driving, or I can be riding my bike, or I can do something.
19:29:22 And I just touch the that corner of my watch, and I can dictate a voice memo, and it doesn't take my hands to do that other than to tap it to to start it.
19:29:34 You can. You can dictate a note to yourself very safely the Us. You again.
19:29:40 There's that symbol for the blood oxygen you tap that, and you can check your blood.
19:29:45 Oxygen, the weather. I always have that tides is special to me.
19:29:49 I'm a photographer, and I like to know what the tides are.
19:29:51 Because it changes the kind of types of photographs you can take.
19:29:56 There! There's an app for either breathing or meditation.
19:30:00 I never use the meditation product. I use the breathing app I use because it it it helps.
19:30:06 It's a way to basically palm you down after you've been active sometimes, I literally tell him, take a breath. Yes, she does. And the Strava app we have as well something. We ride our bikes.
19:30:28 It' the map is shows up on the phone doesn't jump into the watch.
19:30:30 It shows the London time, because our daughter lives in England, and then the apples.
19:30:36 Famous activity. Rings are down at the bottom in the way that he set his up.
19:30:40 It's giving him the numbers that go along with the rings.
19:30:43 I I didn't set mine up that I could have, but I didn't do mine that way.
19:30:48 So most normal people have something more like Catholics, but I was trying to see how much I could cram onto one screen alright.
19:30:57 So I'm going to. I thought several times about, How did I want this to flow?
19:31:03 And I was assuming you you read from left to right.
19:31:06 So I'm gonna go top line left to right and then bottom line left to right.
19:31:09 Just so. You know where we're at. So the heart rate we talked about, what does it look like?
19:31:18 Well, this. So this is a screenshot of my watch, with the heart rate of 77.
19:31:24 Currently, that's the the latest reading. But then it tells me that it was 88, 1 min ago, and then it tells you what my resting heart rate usually is, which is on this about 10 points higher than what it normally would be then the one on the right is when you want it to give
19:31:48 You a reading. This is what you see. Is that hard?
19:31:51 And if you select it, it gives you whatever the current reading is.
19:31:56 So the watch on the right, now that the square ones are screenshots of what you see.
19:32:02 But I've added in some things that show you the watch itself, and so on.
19:32:06 The right hand side. There's a big watch, and it's got a warning.
19:32:10 It says it. It's a high heart rate morning, and also there's a low heart rate warning.
19:32:15 So normal range is 60 to 100, all things being good, and then at night, when you're resting, 50 is okay, but not normally.
19:32:25 During the day, you wouldn't expect that. So here it's complaining that you consistently been
19:32:35 Sitting, you're you're not active. And yet your heart rate is bounced up above a 100.
19:32:43 And so it says that even though you've been sitting for 10 min, you've been basically between 125 and 130 beats minutes.
19:32:53 So this is, this is something that you would want to alert your primary care provider for.
19:32:58 And there's a number of reasons that can cause it. You know.
19:33:02 It doesn't tell you why. It just says this is not normal, you know.
19:33:06 You might have a spike of 130 for a moment or 2, but if you're inactive and you're heart weights above 100 for 10 min, that's something that you that you need to talk to primary care about, so the the idea of heart rate is that as long as you know
19:33:23 That you're falling within what's normal for you like a one distance runner.
19:33:29 They're going to be a maybe fifties and sixties, even though they're very active.
19:33:35 You know, people that are older. It tends to creep up and be a little bit higher, but if it's normal for you, that's all the good.
19:33:42 When it gets out of range, then you need to be aware of it.
19:33:45 The watch will actually let you set parameters so you can adjust it to your individual.
19:33:52 What's right for you when you want to be alerted.
19:33:56 So down on the bottom row, I want to point out in the center of that there's something called Ekg.
19:34:04 It shows a little heartbeat, and if you select that app, this is, these are when you can see the apps that are on your your apple watch, and you touch that little heartbeat, and then the screen on the right.
19:34:16 Bottom side is what you get, and it says that it's it's checking what the waveform is.
19:34:26 This is the actual electrical activity of your heart that's being shown on the screen it's a little bit messy because it's movement.
19:34:34 There's some movement, and in there and it's telling you that it's measured 27 s.
19:34:40 So far you will. It can go up to actually no, it's measured 3 s.
19:34:46 It's got 27 s to go
19:34:52 Of what you're doing, but you can change that too.
19:34:55 I mean, most people. 30 s is just fine, but some people with heart problems need it to be set up 1 min.
19:35:01 You can change it. You can change that parameter and say, I want you to do a full minute.
19:35:05 You can do that. It's also warned you that it's not checking for a heart attack.
19:35:10 So if you're having chest paid the ekg, it's not bad to have the data, but that it's not gonna give you a diagnosis.
19:35:18 It's not there to diagnose. It's just there to take the measure, whatever it is.
19:35:24 But the good news is you can share this information with your provider.
19:35:28 It will let you do that it won't automatically do it.
19:35:31 But you can. You can set it up and tell it to do it.
19:35:35 Okay, so again, we're gonna run across the the top first.
19:35:40 And you see Lawrence's, what face? And so on.
19:35:47 The right hand side. What he's done is he's used his watch to to to watch face, to tell it that it want.
19:35:56 He wants to do some activity, and it brings up a menu.
19:35:59 This is what kind of activity are you gonna do? So it wouldn't be an outdoor run for him or a trail run or an outdoor.
19:36:07 It might be an outdoor ride. He has a tricycle, could have been that, but the most common one which is kind of cut off at the bottom is the outdoor walk.
19:36:16 He and I use the that a lot when we go out, and this is Strava.
19:36:20 It's the one that not only tells you how far you were, how far you walked or road, and can you point to that?
19:36:36 Yeah, this is Strava. And so if he put that, and that's the menu he got.
19:36:42 And you, it's girls on forever, I mean, he'll let you do an elliptical or, you know, equipment, or whatever I mean.
19:36:48 It's like 30 choices that you can scroll through.
19:36:51 Alright on the bottom left is again option of different apps, and the one that I wanted you to focus on this, the second one down is like activity goes to the 3 rings.
19:37:03 If you select that the screen on the right is telling you what you have done for each of the rings, and you can scroll through it and get the specific numbers.
19:37:16 Remember on his watch. Can you point out that where it shows the rings?
19:37:21 But also gives you numbers. So if you click on the activity icon for the app, and that app comes up when you scroll across, then you can get the specific activity for reach.
19:37:36 Each, ring.
19:37:38 And then I would point out that there's a couple of ways to do Medicaid.
19:37:44 Ations. But there is an app called medications, and you can get a list of all your medications, or you can see what's do.
19:37:53 You can put in what time things should be taken, and it will actually alert you if you turn it on to alert, you will say, Okay, it's time for your whatever it is.
19:38:03 You should be taking like I have a lover that goes off at 20'clock.
19:38:05 And says, there's 3 things you should take it to a clock, and this is something that's built into the apple watch.
19:38:13 This med safe, the one that's below the one says medication is meant safe is a commercial one, and it's used for specific tracking.
19:38:21 By your physician, so your physician can keep track. Your physician will be alerted when you keep track of your medications. Yeah.
19:38:31 They also have one of her diabetic they have an an app that the doctor will prescribe that will track your blood, sugar, and some other things, and send it to the physician.
19:38:45 If you, if you have it done as a prescription, or you can just keep that information.
19:38:50 But you can get a report, and you can share that report with your provider.
19:38:55 So there's a lot of ways of doing this. So remember, I said that sleep was the third leg on the stool for your physical health, and I love that, Lawrence added in the comments.
19:39:06 So much sleep one third of your life. Yes, we spend about roughly one third of our life sleeping.
19:39:13 But what's really important about sleep is not just the hours you spend.
19:39:16 It's the quality of it. So on the upper left hand side you can see that there's an app called sleep, and it shows a bad, and if you select that you can create a schedule that says when you want to wake up in the morning and when you want to go to bed, at night, and
19:39:32 If you turn the alarm on, then it will. Your watch will vibrate.
19:39:37 The haptic Todd to to wake you up, and it works.
19:39:42 Most people that that's enough to let them know that they need to wake up.
19:39:48 And then the third one over on the top row. It tells you what you have set as your bedtime, and that the alarm is set for.
19:39:59 Wake up, but the bedtime then has a what do they call it?
19:40:03 A cool down period. So about 45 min before whatever you set it to be for your bedtime, it't it?
19:40:12 It tells you it's time to start slowing down it's time to get ready for bed, and then, if you don't, if you miss it, this is a goal that's been set as 2,300, and if you miss it it will give an alarm, and the alarm, will say well, if
19:40:28 You can't do 2,300 try. Make it at least.
19:40:32 You know, 1145 pm. So that you get a better sleep with them.
19:40:38 I mean, all of this is to coach you. That's the ideas.
19:40:42 Is this coaching you, and what you need to do, what steps you need to take so that you can have better sleep.
19:40:46 The bottom row. Starting on the left. It gives you a report, and so this is not only is it collecting data, but then it's showing you the results.
19:40:57 And on that. It's saying that today you went to bed at 1125, and you got up at 70.
19:41:04 5, and it's gives you a score. Today's score is in the yellow.
19:41:10 So you need to improve that. But you're overall school, which is based on 3 days, your average over 3 days is in the orange, which means you really, you know, today wasn't great.
19:41:20 But the previous 2 days must have been worse and so you really need to pay attention to this that's what it's telling you.
19:41:27 So and if you hit your goal in the very bottom of that, you'll see it's says Sleep, and it's got a yellow to green on it, and then it says it's cut off.
19:41:38 But it's 7 h and 30 min, and then it says goal.
19:41:44 If you actually achieve your goal, you get feedback that you made the goal so it's it's trying to guide you with wants to encourage you in what you're doing now, if you keep scrolling through the report in this next, example the this sleep was from midnight to 710
19:42:07 So you did 84% of an eight-hour goal.
19:42:11 And your three-day target is under. So you only did over the last 3 days.
19:42:16 67% of what you were trying to achieve. And then, if you keep going down, it will tell you what your resting heart rate was.
19:42:24 While you were sleeping. So if you have a nightmare, will be an example.
19:42:30 If you have a nightmare, your heart rate shoots up when that happens, and it will tell you that you had a spike at this point in time.
19:42:37 So that's when you look at the sleep stages.
19:42:41 And so the third one over in the bottom row is now looking at how the bottom of this the dark blue, is your deep sleep, but middle line is your light sleep, and then the top.
19:42:55 The orange is your activity. That's that's those are the stages of sleep.
19:43:01 So if you thrash around, you'll get an orange line, or if you get up and go to the bathroom and get an orange line.
19:43:09 So you know what the interruptions are, and then it gives you.
19:43:14 This is a moment in in time. You're just looking at one night's sleep.
19:43:20 But then, in the report it gives you a week at a time, and you can set this to show one week, 2 weeks, a month, 6 months.
19:43:29 You could set it to whatever you want, but on your watch, really, the 2 weeks is about the Max.
19:43:37 That's useful. If you want to look at more than that, you go to your phone to look at the more data.
19:43:42 But what it's saying is that you you were pretty consistent over the last 2 weeks with how much sleep you got
19:43:53 So what other things can we do with our our watched as we talked about earlier?
19:44:00 We've done our activity rings, but we can also do specific types of activities.
19:44:07 And the the 2 that that I'm inclined to do is I like to cycle.
19:44:12 I've got to try to go, and I like to go cycling, and I you can do that.
19:44:17 It will capture it. With what apple provides, but I would rather use Strava because they get more information.
19:44:27 It so you know Apple will give you the the bare bones of what you need to know.
19:44:33 But if you but if you want the
19:44:37 Total distance plus the speed plus the map. Apple doesn't do all that elevation and elevation. Yeah, apple doesn't do all that.
19:44:47 So so that's the difference. Your watch is designed for you to be able to use it to go swimming so you can do laps, and it will.
19:44:54 It will tell you lap times as well as your total swim.
19:44:58 So it it gives you the flow of your activity as you're swimming and it's it's useful.
19:45:07 I mean that you know. At least it gives you a sense.
19:45:09 It also touches calories burn. So it gives you a sense of how active you were, because it's not. All.
19:45:16 Strokes of the same, you know. Breast stroke uses a different level of energy than a backstroke, or whatever.
19:45:21 So it it knows that I mean it can tell by the movement what kind of stroke you're using, and it will tell you how many calories you're burning based upon that type of activity and you could do it like I said other exercise.
19:45:33 But this is what watch faces look like. The first one is just those 3 activity rings and move.
19:45:41 You're only at 6% and at exercise, you're at 13.
19:45:47 And this you get 12 times during your waking time that you're supposed to move from seated to standing, or or go from standing the city.
19:45:59 They want you to get up and down, and so that's that's what this is telling you, which is fine, because it's only 100'clock in the morning.
19:46:06 So, you know you got the rest of the day. It's okay.
19:46:10 But if that was 100'clock at night, you're way behind schedule. Right?
19:46:16 You just know that. Well, you're not gonna make up the distance between your goal and where you're at at that place.
19:46:21 The the middle one. I put the the icon, this the app symbol for cycling at the top.
19:46:32 So if you were looking through apps. That's the one that is specific to cycleing.
19:46:37 And then you can. You can hone in on it to what? Specific?
19:46:46 Type of cycling. You're doing so in this case.
19:46:49 I chose the multi-sport triathlon, because cycling is part of a 3 part.
19:46:55 Event, and it knows the difference between the slim part of the triathlon.
19:47:00 The cycle part and the run part, and it will give you breakouts for each of those individually as well as your performance.
19:47:09 Overall in your calories, burnt with that activity, and the time, the duration of each piece of it, so you can get a lot of information.
19:47:18 Oh, go back! One pull, swim you! This is what happens when you're doing something, and it thinks you're doing something, and it wants to know.
19:47:31 Do you want to record this like it knows that you're in the pool swimming, and it's what it's asking is, do you want to capture what you're doing?
19:47:40 So even if you don't, sometimes it'll start out on a walk, and then my watchful tap at me will say, it looks like you're doing an outdoor walk.
19:47:48 Would you like to record it? So if you don't think of it when you get started?
19:47:52 It. It doesn't take it too long before it says Mmm, maybe you're doing this.
19:47:57 You really want to capture that information or not? Okay? And then one of the safety features that I really like.
19:48:08 And this was a reason for us to to upgrade our our watches was to get the fall detection and reports, and so each you can fool it.
19:48:20 What was I do? Oh, clapping my hands, I was doing some really violent clapping in my hands, and it popped up and said, It looks like you've taken a fall, and I had, and I was just clapping my hands really hard, and I said, No, I'm okay, it's
19:48:34 All right. I'm not an emergency, but if you truly fall, it brings up the emergency call, and it will dial 911.
19:48:44 But it also. You can put in 2 or 3, 2.
19:48:49 You could put in 2 phone numbers of people that you want alerted.
19:48:52 So when our mother-in-law was living with us, and she did fall a lot, we had it set up for the emergency call, but also it would call him, and it would call me so we both would get notified if she fell, and if if she was okay she could turn it off it wouldn't call if
19:49:12 she, if she said, No, I'm okay. But if she didn't turn it off, then it then it automatically would alert. 9.
19:49:18 111, and Lawrence and I
19:49:23 And then you you can't have your medical Id on this, and that is the in an emergency, like an Emt.
19:49:32 If they know that you have an apple watch, they can bring up your medical Id and get just the the basics about you and on your phone.
19:49:43 There's more information available to. So this, this is really useful as a in an emergency situation.
19:49:54 These are the minimum things that people need to know. Now what type I will caution you.
19:49:59 They're never going to go by. What's on any record.
19:50:02 They are gonna test every single time. But they're going to give blood.
19:50:06 But it is a heads up for for the medical staff, so I will also tell you that you're your watch is locked, so that if somebody just comes up they can't get this information.
19:50:19 How the medical id is. It? You can access this without unlocking it, and the local emts across the entire country.
19:50:30 They've been trained on how to bring up the apple id on on an iphone or at the apple watch, and when my mother fell her once her her watch called 911, they came, and one of the things they did, even though I was standing there they looked at her watch to
19:50:49 See what it said, yeah, they're very familiar with how these things were, and I just want to have a shout out for swim.
19:50:57 Our our Emt. Staff. Here is phenomenal.
19:50:59 These guys are really good
19:51:02 So other types of guidance. We mentioned this earlier that body, mind, spirit, connection there.
19:51:09 There is mindfulness app that you can use, and it will let you do meditations that will let you do deep breathing, and he has a whole bunch of programs.
19:51:24 I mean, you don't have to be bored, and you could pick how long like this? The middle one?
19:51:29 Is beginning a meditation, and it tells it gives you directions.
19:51:35 What you should do, but then it also will give. You have to touch taps as you're changing from one thing to another thing, and the breathing does that like it?
19:51:48 Will, it will tap you to tell you to breathe in, and then it will tap you to tell you when to breathe out, so you don't.
19:51:53 You can leave your eyes closed, but you're doing the breathing.
19:51:58 According to this, the rhythm or cycle, and this one is set for 1 min.
19:52:02 But you can do a 30 min, or a 1 h, or whatever you want.
19:52:06 I mean there, there, you're not limited in any way to this.
19:52:10 You can scroll through and pick dozens of meditations like, I want to focus on being call.
19:52:20 Or I wanna focus on letting go of regret, or whatever it is you you just pick the type of thing you want to address, and then it will want to know well how much time do you want to spend doing that?
19:52:33 So you can go anywhere from 1 min to an hour on these
19:52:39 And then apple fitness plus is available, missed that.
19:52:49 And and so you get coaches. These are people who couch you through workouts.
19:52:55 And so you hear the voice, and also it will tap you when you need to change what you're doing.
19:53:02 And then you scroll through and select what the workout should be like.
19:53:07 Zooma, you know, if you wanna if you want to be dancing to dance music as a fitness workout, it'll tell you.
19:53:15 Now do this kind of move. Now do that kind of move, and then you can pick what kind of music you want to go along with it, and then you can pick how long you want to dance like I want to dance for 15 or 20 or however, many minutes
19:53:27 No, I'm gonna turn over to Lawrence. He's gonna do the iphone stuff don't have as many screenshots here a lot of the fitness stuff really is focused on the apple watch.
19:53:38 Because you're actually wearing it. And and when you move your body it moves to and knows that.
19:53:44 But your iphone can also do a lot of this stuff.
19:53:46 If you carry your iphone particularly in a Panthe pocket, it's really good accounting.
19:53:51 The number of steps in the distance you go. It doesn't work quite as well if you haven't in a shirt pocket, or if you have it in your purse, but if you carry with you it will track your steps so you can find out how active you were at least when you were carrying the
19:54:05 phone right? And if you set a goal it will let you know in the evening, like you need 10 more minutes of walking to reach your goal.
19:54:16 I mean you. You let you do things during the day, but when it's wind down time, it says oops before you know you stop all your activity.
19:54:23 If you just do X, amount of whatever it is you set the goal, for you will meet your goal for today.
19:54:30 It also has a medication tracker that's on the icephone that you give it all your medications it'll prompt you, for when you're supposed to take them, and then you have to explicitly say yes, I took this or otherwise, nag you really nice medication.
19:54:44 Tracking thing they did a lot of work, seeing what, how, what people needed.
19:54:50 It'll track your distance and also your altitude, depending upon the app you're using.
19:54:54 So around here where there are a lot of hills. It's it's one thing to go walking a mile in Kansas, where it's really flat.
19:55:01 You walk a mile around here you're probably going to go up and down quite a bit, which is more work because it's an iphone.
19:55:08 You can also add things to it. For example, Olympic Medical Center has they do their charting through something called my chart.
19:55:16 You can get an you can download from the apple store a my chart app for your phone or for your ipad.
19:55:25 And look at your online chart on your phone. The last time I was I was at Olympic Medical today for an appointment.
19:55:31 I forgot something, and I looked at my chart on my phone as he was asking me questions, and he thought that was really quite funny.
19:55:40 But I was using their records to tell him answers to questions.
19:55:44 He had, but there's a lot of it. There's a lot of information you can.
19:55:51 You can use simply because the phone is connected to the outside.
19:55:53 Go back for just second. The other nice thing about having my chart is, if we have basically in the state of Washington, 2 medical systems, and they are not good about exchanging information.
19:56:05 But like if I have to go to Bremerton to a Franciscan system that doesn't talk to the Olympic medical system, I can bring up that short information to share with the people there and then they know to go get something I mean that they can they can request it.
19:56:24 But if they don't know what they're asking for, they're not gonna get it.
19:56:28 But if I pull it up and say, Oh, this is what you're looking for, then they'll request it, and it will be sent over.
19:56:35 So it does help with communication
19:56:40 Other things that it does, that you may not think of as being healthy.
19:56:46 But are, you're you can have your iphone or your apple watch.
19:56:49 Share your location with your spouse, your parents, your children, whoever it is that you want to.
19:56:56 This is handy, like. For example, if if Kathleen has been an out and she said, You' go to home, coma went 10, and it's 11, and she hasn't come out, I can look on my phone and see where she is.
19:57:06 And I can see. Oh, she's still at church. Oh, she's shopping at Costco it's it's also we.
19:57:14 Don't. I don't think too many of us have any young children, but it's also good way to just keep track of your children so on and so forth.
19:57:20 So it is a health and safety feature. Well, our daughter is in England, and we do have a we agree to it. I mean, you know, whoever you're tracking has to accept that you're going to be able to trap our daughter in England.
19:57:33 Can track our phones, and we can track her phone. So, for example, because of the time zones, it differences is handy.
19:57:39 If I see that she's at work I won't call her, but I see that she's at home, and it's not midnight yet.
19:57:46 I I can call her without feeling too bad. Yeah, the other thing that's helpful is sometimes there are silver alerts or amber alerts, or whatever, but they're there.
19:57:57 People who go missing a lot of times. We'll have elderly people get lost, but you can find them by using the phone.
19:58:09 You can see where they're physically at, and I've had the police most as a parish nurse been asked by a family to help find somebody who's been missing for a couple of hours.
19:58:20 The police will ask me well, do they have an iphone?
19:58:22 Is it on them? They'll ask me that question Strava, which we mentioned before on on the watch, also works on the phone, and if you have, I I accidentally triggered Strava once, when I was at Costco and so it drew a map, of all the Aisles that I went up
19:58:43 And down, in in Costco, and told me how long the was.
19:58:47 1.4 miles in Costco, just as a point of reference within the first 6 months of the apple watch coming out, there had been thousands of rescues where you're the apple watch or the iphone at help in tracking people there was a very famous case here in Washington State where a
19:59:06 Guy fell off a tray in the Cascades, and the only thing he had on him was out of his apple watch.
19:59:12 But the apple watch said sent an alert saying that they'd had a fall, and using that information, the rescuers got to him before people in his own party knew he was missing.
19:59:23 Yeah, he got off a cliffs. They might have never found him if it had been for that watch.
19:59:29 Yeah. He fell like 300 feet. So definitely useful. The new iphone 8 has a new feature, and it's only available on the iphone age and phones going forward.
19:59:41 A crash function there are on the iphone. There are a whole bunch of accelerometers and accelerometers, a chip that basically measures the force.
19:59:50 The app that you're moving W. How much energy do you using to move?
19:59:54 And when you come to a crash, the accelerometers kind of freak out.
19:59:58 So the apple decided that. Okay, if it if the if the phone has experienced that much of a deceleration or acceleration, you were probably in a crash, and it'll call 9 1, one, let's just stop it right?
20:00:13 So there's a cancel. It if it wasn't a crash, and you don't need help.
20:00:15 Just hit cancel. But if you really need help, like, if you're unconscious, it will just call 4 days after the iphone 8 was released, a guy in Bellevue crashed into a tree late at night, and the paramedics were there before anyone knew that the guy was in
20:00:36 Trouble, like the iphone said, there's been a crash. I'm here.
20:00:40 Come and get me. And they said that because he was bleeding, that if they hadn't responded that quickly he probably would bled to death.
20:00:48 So. But that's only
20:00:48 Hey! Hey? No! You're saying that. That's iphone 8.
20:00:53 But I think you're talking. Iphone 14
20:00:57 Oh, I'm sorry, I said. Iphone at your right.
20:01:00 It is 14. Fortunately I can change that right here.
20:01:00 Yeah, yeah. Excel to my phone 8. And it doesn't have that
20:01:03 No, no, no, it's right. No, it's it's the iphone.
20:01:09 Okay. Thank you.
20:01:08 14. It's similar to it's similar to the fall alarm that's in the iphones.
20:01:17 I watch 7 and greater. But it's the iphone 14 that has a crash detection.
20:01:22 The iphone because it through the fitness plus also can guide you through Yoga exercises and meditation, and so on.
20:01:30 So forth. A bunch of activities, and you might not think, well, why would you want that on your phone?
20:01:35 Well, I'll get to that in a second. It also the iphone also helps with the sleep reports before we, before they had the sleep apps on the watch, we actually track sleep with our phones, and it also has some things that help with that for example, we have it set for us there's a focus.
20:01:54 Setting that you can set up. We tell our phones that they don't accept phone calls after 10 or before 8, unless they're one of our relatives.
20:02:04 Right. We we we told it. Let these numbers through. If it's emergency.
20:02:09 But loc everything else, and the police can still get through, and things like that.
20:02:13 But basically we just don't get our phones still have an area code for the east coast.
20:02:19 And so sometimes we we would be getting calls at like 5 in the morning, because they think we're at work, and it stops that.
20:02:26 Just because it silences them. I will. I'll we're kind of running out of time.
20:02:33 So I'm gonna start over the accessibility part. But you can also use your phone to help you with vision issues, with hearing issues, with physical and motor things because of settings on the phone that will actually help you with things like that.
20:02:47 Yeah, that magnifying glass is really useful. If you're in a dimly lit restaurant with small print on the menu is a great and if you can't see the normal iphone lettering in such, you can blow it up or big it boulder and modern hearing, aids will have settings
20:03:06 That will let you talk directly between the hearing aid and the phone.
20:03:10 So a lot of people who can't normally hear on a phone with the hearing aid.
20:03:16 If you set it up to use the Bluetooth feature, you will be able to cure things that otherwise you would not.
20:03:23 I'm a very impressed with the way that technology, because what it does is it?
20:03:27 Can translate it from frequencies that you can't hear into frequencies that you can I mean, it's really sophisticated.
20:03:35 It's really amazing.
20:03:39 Apple TV. I wanted to mention Apple TV because the apple TV, I know a lot of people don't have them, but it the apple TV.
20:03:46 Among other things, can be a health tool, because through Apple's fitness plus program, you can get work out coaches fit, disc coaches.
20:03:56 Yoga coaches, exercise coaches, and somebody shows you on TV how to do something.
20:04:01 That you should follow along, and if you're not following the same speed or anything, you don't care, because there's not the entire class there and you can level like they have a very nice series for older adults on how they improve balance, and you know they have some seeded exercises and chair
20:04:19 Exercises, and whatever, and but they're done in small segments, and they're minimize distraction.
20:04:26 I mean, they've they've really done a nice job of of tailoring the program to the target audience.
20:04:32 Whatever it is. Did you move this
20:04:39 And I was gonna talk some more about things with the Mac. But I'll skip that for another time and get to the demo, and that go away
20:04:56 And for this we're going to do something strange
20:05:07 Here, so he's plugged his iphone into the computer and set it to mirroring so that you can see what's on his iphone.
20:05:19 You're sharing right? Yes, I certainly hope so.
20:05:22 Is everyone still there?
20:05:23 Yes.
20:05:23 Yes.
20:05:24 Yes.
20:05:24 Okay, because I can't see anything other than what's on the screen here.
20:05:31 We hope
20:05:35 Hey!
20:05:38 Iphone store. Okay?
20:05:40 Yeah, I was actually trying to find something. But Hi, I won't worry about that.
20:05:47 Got to do something else instead, that accessibility and
20:06:00 Okay, this is my watch. You're actually looking at my watch.
20:06:09 I'm gonna I'm gonna click on the strava application that's that orange icon in the lower left corner when I click on that, it says, what kind of activity I want to have an outdoor run?
20:06:22 A trail run outdoor riot, a walk indoor, run indoor right?
20:06:27 All kinds of these different activities and the one that I I don't do, skateboarding so and so forth.
20:06:32 What I do to mostly do is I I use the bicycle.
20:06:35 So that's what the Strava app is. And this is the activities thing that is quite famous in all the ads about 2% on your movement.
20:06:46 And it gives you the rings at the top, and then down below it gives you more discrete things and times, and so on, so forth.
20:07:00 And summer is the weekly yes, and the one I wanted to show you, though, is demonstration, is the blood oxygen.
20:07:02 So if I click on this and I say, start, it'll test my blood oxygen level.
20:07:08 It takes 15 s and yeah, I have to stop fairly. Still, if I move too much, get bad at me and start over again.
20:07:17 But it'll test the blood oxygen and then tell me how I'm doing.
20:07:21 And the answer is, 99%. So I'm I'm fairly healthy and we'll show up on the phone in the health. Yeah, it'll show up as as a recording.
20:07:31 There. The other one I want to show you is the this one is, yeah, I can both show you, but it also has a feeling part that you can't tell, and that's the breathing application.
20:07:41 If you if you have any kind of respiratory issues, and I have really bad allergies.
20:07:47 Sometimes it helps just to engage in deep breathing, and this that's what this breathing app does.
20:07:53 Is it guides you through that? And why aren't you?
20:07:59 It guides you, and it gives you this visually, and when it's ready it actually taps my wrist, and when it taps my wrist it's telling me to breathe
20:08:09 So you can actually feel it as well as see it. And it's also fairly pretty.
20:08:17 And but anyway, this goes on, for however long I want it to go on and I don't want you to go through the whole thing.
20:08:25 But that's it's right on my wrist.
20:08:26 So it's very easy to bring up, and then there are things that aren't on my wrist.
20:08:31 For example. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm trying
20:08:37 Lawrence? What was the shortcut for the the blood oxygen?
20:08:43 What did the symbol look like
20:08:46 It's called what is it called green? No, no, she's she's talking about the yeah.
20:08:53 It's blood blood oxygen. Yeah, it's it's this symbol right here, down yeah.
20:08:58 Is that it did it? Did it come with the watch?
20:09:02 Yes, it's it's from Apple
20:09:05 But only the newest versions
20:09:09 Maybe a couple and
20:09:09 It's been. Our. I guess it's couple of versions yeah, it's give you an Ekg, and what you do is you hold on to the Crown, and it takes 30 s and it'll give you an Ekg, and it's going to tell you that I have
20:09:33 Arithmetic because I have a red man. This is that irregular, irregular heartbeat that I was
20:09:44 And when almost there, almost there, and still almost there, blessed are the impatient.
20:09:56 Okay.
20:09:56 Atrial, February.
20:10:08 We're having an episode of typically, it's light headedness is the most common.
20:10:12 And you do your Ekg, and it shows this irregular, irregular pattern.
20:10:18 Then it wants to know. So tell me what's going on.
20:10:20 At this moment in time? Are you short of breath? Are you lightheaded?
20:10:22 Alright!
20:10:24 Are you? You know it just goes down a list, and you just say, yes, yes, no, yes, type of it.
20:10:29 And the nice thing about the ekg, it creates a Pdf.
20:10:35 And the Pdf. That it creates on the phone.
20:10:38 The Pdf. That it creates. You can then send to your provider health care, provider, if you want to, but anyway, it's got just a whole bunch of things on here that I use all the time, and as you saw there's also applications for things like ferry watch for or
20:10:57 Checking fairies, so a whole bunch of things as you can see.
20:11:07 It's mostly apple watch centric, and we're not trying to advertise Apple watch.
20:11:12 But they're just the the number of health things that are involved with the apple watch.
20:11:19 It's truly quite amazing. Several insurance companies and several health maintenance organizations.
20:11:27 Hmos! Now our buying apple watches for their patients, or their their insuries like this one.
20:11:34 There's an Executive Insurance company that's backed by Lloyds of London, and in order to reduce their risk, they require that you that the people who take out these life insurance policies have an apple watch and that the insurance company get the records so this way they
20:11:50 say that they don't smoke, and they don't drink, and so on, and so forth.
20:11:55 Believe it or not. They track that stuff because they're not gonna give you a discount on your premiums unless you can prove that you're actually doing something.
20:12:02 Healthy, like. You're a smoker. Your o 2 sats are not going to be normal.
20:12:07 They just won't, and the with the health, maintenance things, the the Va.
20:12:12 For example, for some of their patients, they are buying them Va.
20:12:16 Buys apple watches and gives them to the patients.
20:12:18 For or for certain types of things, and the military Kathleen worked with this group at Waltery.
20:12:26 Military Medical Center in DC. They were buying apple watches for severely winded wounded soldiers, because, in addition to tracking their health, it also gave them more control over their environment, they could do things like answer their phone just by tapping their watch, rather than having to go find the phone particularly if they
20:12:46 were in a wheelchair, or they were in a bed. It was.
20:12:50 It was just a way for them to be more mobile and to have greater reach than they would otherwise well, and the other thing they would do is they would set it up that if somebody got anxious if their heart rate went up and their breathing got more, rapid in their oh, 2 levels we're shifting
20:13:09 Rapidly. It would automatically. There's app called Hook Box, and the hope box will automatically open up and say, it's appears that you are feeling anxious.
20:13:20 Would you like to? And then it gives you a list of options and it learns what you like and what you don't like, so it'll change the order of the list according to the things that you use more frequently being at the top of the things that you never use being at the bottom they're still accessible.
20:13:36 But it learns what works best for you.
20:13:40 Anyway, we've been talking now for an hour, and plus any questions.
20:13:50 And we actually didn't cover everything we had. Yes, you're muted.
20:13:56 Yeah. Kathy.
20:13:56 No mute, the ekg on the watch. Does it keep records throughout the whole day of your rhythm?
20:14:05 Oh!
20:14:05 No! A it. Oh, it's it's on demand.
20:14:08 The main one.
20:14:09 So, if you think that you think something strange, you can, you can trigger it.
20:14:14 And taking. Ekg, but no, it doesn't constantly monitor.
20:14:17 That would use an awful lot of power. So now it't do that.
20:14:22 It does on the new on Kathleen's watch, it will constantly monitor her.
20:14:29 O, 2 sat! Does that constantly? Mine's an older one.
20:14:32 Doesn't do that. But the Ekg. Is strictly on demand.
20:14:35 It. It it can't Mont, counselling monitor.
20:14:38 It that would require a lot of power. Choose.
20:14:40 But it can do a Pdf Pdf.
20:14:44 And save it
20:14:45 Yeah. Oh, no. If if you take an ekg, it automatically saves a Pdf on your phone.
20:14:52 Oh!
20:14:52 Yeah. And you don't have to tell it to do that. It just automatically does that. And then it's it's timestamp.
20:15:02 So you can say, Oh, this is the one I took it 407. I'm gonna send that to my doctor.
20:15:04 I see.
20:15:04 So it's it's quite convenient, and it will if you' your heart starts doing really funny stuff.
20:15:13 It will ask you if you want an Ekg, you could set parameters a lot of doctors who have patients that are having heart problems, but they're not sure exactly what it what it is.
20:15:22 They will set certain parameters to say, and and then the watch will prompt you, and say, it appears that you are beyond your low limit, or you're beyond your high level, or whatever it is.
20:15:35 Do you want to take any kg, now? It will ask.
20:15:38 I forgot something I was going to demonstrate, so I'm going to go back and demonstrate that.
20:15:42 Oh! What is I'm going to bring up this again?
20:15:51 No, I have mirror at first.
20:15:52 So you're saying that it can actually do a 6 lead.
20:15:56 Ekg. In addition to
20:15:58 16,
20:15:57 No, no.
20:16:02 Oh!
20:16:03 Yeah, it. It only has limited point of reference.
20:16:08 So it's. It's not a. It's not a full.
20:16:12 It is considered medical grade. But it's not, it's not. It's not a 12 late, it's not a that's not what I want to show
20:16:18 Actually on my Wat chip calls at a Ecg.
20:16:22 I don't know what the difference is, but
20:16:24 Well, electrocardi, grab in German has a K.
20:16:28 Oh, so the same thing!
20:16:31 Same thing.
20:16:27 But electric cardogram and English has a seat. This is this is a locked iphone. Right now.
20:16:35 It's locked, and that's my granddaughter yelling at.
20:16:38 That is 3 trees. But if I press the 2 slides at the same time, it'll trigger.
20:16:44 They'll trigger the wrong thing. I'm trying to trigger the emergency
20:16:50 I just did a screenshot
20:16:56 One buttons. Oh, that's because, just looking at me, let's try this again.
20:17:00 Yeah. And I don't want it to do that
20:17:07 Hey? It's not doing what I wanted to do.
20:17:11 I wanted to show you that it the medical alert that's built into the iphone.
20:17:17 But it's not triggering it
20:17:17 It. It's 5 s. It's 5 s
20:17:22 Yeah, I was too impatient
20:17:23 I've I've triggered it accidentally several times
20:17:28 But the it. The iphone, will bring that up, and and and paramedics are trained to trigger it so that they can.
20:17:38 Even if it's locked they can read the medical alert information.
20:17:41 And your phone does your watch has that same capability, and if you have an iphone and you have not done that, the way to get that is, you go into the health app on the it looks like a heart, and then just fill out all the information I'm just gonna want to know your name.
20:18:00 Your age, height. Wait, and then you can list things that you think are important.
20:18:06 Do you have a pacemaker? Do you have? Have you had a transplant?
20:18:10 Whatever it is. That you think is important, that if you're on a blood center, anything that you think would be of importance to to an Emt, also, they want to know if you have any implants that mean you can't go through an MRI, if you we've had an implant since
20:18:28 Crazy.
20:18:30 2,000! Something. It's probably been titanium, and you can probably go through an MRI.
20:18:34 But if you had an implant done in the sixtys and seventies, putting you through, an MRI could kill you because the it would rip it out so, anyway, aside from the gory details I wanted to show you that.
20:18:55 At this.
20:18:48 But it's it's easy enough to fill it out on your phone or on your watch, and it's useful because the Mps are trained to look like for it.
20:18:58 Yes.
20:18:57 Lawrence question the April apple launch ultra in the advantages to go into it
20:19:07 The apple watch. Ultra. It's it has become really, really, really popular.
20:19:15 At my former place of employment, but the National Ocean Service is kind of interested in the ocean as a whole bunch of scuba divers, and it the the second apple released that it became the favorite dive watch on on the planet because it does a whole bunch of things that you wanted to dive watch
20:19:32 But awesome whole bunch of other things. It's more rugged.
20:19:36 It can. It's it's a really fine watch.
20:19:39 They happen to have one on display at Costco so if you go into Costco, you can look at a regular apple watch in their display area, and then there's an ultra and you'll see that it's considerably larger than an apple watch and I have a friend.
20:19:54 She's probably a 100 pounds. Phd. Oceanographers so on and so forth.
20:20:00 But she's really tiny. She got an apple watch, and she said the the most discontent thing for her was that she had this large thing on her wrist, but she got used to it, but she's also a diver, so you know she would if she had a dive watch, it'd be
20:20:17 large too. It's but it is considerably larger and heavier than an apple watch.
20:20:20 It's like I don't know, 4 ounces or something like that, instead of 2 or something.
20:20:27 It's. It's larger. So if you want to, just go to Costco, and you can just look at it in person.
20:20:34 And you can say, yes, that's considerably larger.
20:20:36 It's far more durable. It's it's basically unrelated.
20:20:41 It's titanium, I mean, it's it's a it's a beast, but it has a whole bunch of capabilities.
20:20:48 The regular watch doesn't have Krist. Did you have a comment
20:20:53 I have a couple of questions. I think the the Se.
20:20:58 That I got second generation, is he, even though it's new.
20:21:04 Recent. I don't think it's capable of doing all the things the Kathleen showed us.
20:21:13 That is.
20:21:13 There at least one or 2 that are not included, that I'm aware of.
20:21:19 But in practical terms I haven't connected my iphone or the watch to my new router yet.
20:21:31 I haven't set up the new router, and I'm thinking that there is some software for the watch as well as updating for the iphone.
20:21:42 That I don't have yet, because I've been all on a cell signal
20:21:49 Okay, I,
20:21:50 And the the second part of that is, I have noticed that when my iphone is in the computer room, and I'm out on the front deck, the 2 are not connected.
20:22:07 If I'm within, say, 50 feet, maybe 70 feet of the iphone, they're they're connected.
20:22:17 But once I get out the front door and on the front porch they're not connected
20:22:23 That will that will improve when you put them on. Wi-fi, and you don't actually have to put the watch on Wi-fi.
20:22:29 The watch is really, really, tightly tied to your phone.
20:22:34 So if you put your phone on Wi-fi, it'll automatically put the watch on Wi-fi as well, and once they're on Wi-fi, Wi-fi has a much wider range.
20:22:44 Than Bluetooth. What! You're doing right now is basically using Bluetooth and Blue truth is designed.
20:22:49 The. It's really originally designed for 15 feet
20:22:54 Okay.
20:22:54 Or less, and it's improved. So it does go farther.
20:22:59 But with Wi-fi it's it's it's quite a bit wider range.
20:23:18 Nope.
20:23:04 Than Bluetooth. Yeah, the other thing is, since the watch and the iphone are connected is that if you set airplane mode on one, it will set up for the other, unless you turn it off, so it just assumes that if you're an airplane mode everything should be an airplane
20:23:21 mode
20:23:22 Well, airplane airplane mode I don't need theater mode is intriguing
20:23:29 Well the reason we mentioned this is, I'm just. We were just trying to say that they talk to each other all the time and share information.
20:23:36 Okay, so is.
20:23:36 So. And if you have, what by it is you're gonna have a you can wander farther from the phone
20:23:44 Okay, so one thing that the Verizon store people person told me was that the watch had its own phone number.
20:23:58 Every.
20:23:55 But it wouldn't be used. And and on my Verizon bill, clearly, there's a charge
20:24:13 Beth, yeah.
20:24:07 Cost price monthly for the watch. So at this point my my phone combined phone iphone and watch Bill is twice what my flip phone bill was
20:24:26 2 months ago.
20:24:24 Yeah, well, yeah, that's
20:24:28 But you put Chris on my watch. Mine is capable, too, of having its own phone number or so that you can use your phone or your your watch while your phone is in the car.
20:24:41 Bye.
20:24:40 You know, doesn't have to be within reach. But when I actually activated my watch, I told it not to make it.
20:24:46 Its own like identity. I didn't want that extra bill I don't know if it's like a line that they add a like an additional line cost or whatever.
20:24:55 But they's a way that you don't need to activate that.
20:24:57 So I I
20:24:57 No, I have. I'll talk the Verizon folks
20:25:01 Yeah. The
20:25:06 Sure.
20:25:01 Yeah, can I ask you a quick question? Or for Lawrence either one on my watch when I am watching something?
20:25:12 Oh, I should say on my phone when I'm watching or listening to apple music, Youtube, anything that has audio even in Facebook.
20:25:23 If it has audio, I get the play symbol and the pause, and all that.
20:25:27 It drives me nuts. It's such a PET peeve of mine.
20:25:30 I know why it's there. I think it's great.
20:25:32 If you need to adjust volume for whatever from your watch.
20:25:35 But I think it's dumb. Is there a way to get it off my watch?
20:25:41 Look, everywhere.
20:25:49 It should be in settings, it should, it should be in settings
20:25:41 I've never thought about. Yeah, I've never thought about that, so I can't answer that because I but but if you, if you no, it's automatic.
20:25:55 I've even had
20:25:57 But if you push the button on the side you can do other things.
20:26:04 I mean it. It's a default. Yeah.
20:26:01 Yeah, yeah, you can just push the crown, but then it pops right back over on its own little willy nilly, and then he can scare you
20:26:10 Not doing something else and come back. Yes.
20:26:12 And then, if you're really not paying attention and you move the crown. All of a sudden the volume goes really loud, and it can scare everybody in
20:26:21 Just saying I had that experience, and I didn't know why I was on.
20:26:27 The volume got loud, but it was because I turned the crown which adjusts volume, and I just wish, cause I it's not mere to my phones, apps.
20:26:37 It's not, ie. Deleted a ton of apps to make sure they're not even on there.
20:26:42 I try to get rid of get Amazon use.
20:26:45 I want everything off of it, so I get rid of that play because I listen to a lot of my phone.
20:26:48 But I don't want it on my watch and siri things I'm talking to her, but so you don't know if you don't know of a way that again
20:26:54 I've never I've never! I've never looked into it. It never occurred to me to try so
20:26:59 Okay.
20:27:00 Another little thing you can do is use it to trigger your your camera on your phone to get a group picture if you want to, too
20:27:09 Yeah, I thought that was cool. Yeah, it's your button for your yeah.
20:27:14 Sure. Yeah.
20:27:13 What's the call? You should, whatever the yeah shutter picture.
20:27:18 Yeah.
20:27:16 It's a remote shutter. Yeah, I I, Kathleen was playing with my phone one day, and it was looking at it.
20:27:28 And I thought, Okay, I'm gonna take your picture. And so I have this picture of her underneath her chin.
20:27:36 I'm sure she's proud of that moment.
20:27:39 No, I'm pretty sure she deleted it immediately.
20:27:46 I'd be in the same photo as you, Kathleen.
20:27:50 Oh, thank you both
20:27:50 It. She tells she tells me at least, oh, once or twice a week, that it's it's lucky I've lived this long, and never sounds very friendly
20:28:04 Any other questions.
20:28:06 I had one quick one. I'm assuming, with everything you said, and I've heard that the apple watch doesn't work with any other phone than iphone.
20:28:17 Is that correct?
20:28:17 That's that's not a that's not entirely true.
20:28:29 Yeah, it's cool.
20:28:21 But in terms of the capability for all. For most practical purposes it's a it's an extension of the iphone.
20:28:33 And I know people who have apple watches and don't have a phone.
20:28:37 I'm dead!
20:28:36 But in the terms of what they can do. It's it's it's not nearly as broad a range as what you can do.
20:28:42 If you have an iphone
20:28:43 Well, like if you, if you took the Ecg. On your I one on your on your apple watch, would it send it to a different phone other than iphone
20:28:52 You, you can send it to an email address. So it doesn't really.
20:28:56 Oh, okay.
20:28:57 Yeah, it. Doesn't have to be, doesn't have to be on your phone.
20:29:02 It can. You can just send it to an email yeah, I mean, if you have an iphone, it's automatic. But it doesn't mean you can't do it.
20:29:09 It's just do it.
20:29:10 Right? Okay, thank you.
20:29:12 Yeah, there, there are some things that that you do not have to have an iphone to use your watch for.
20:29:20 It's just augmented like there's more things you can do, data that it will automatically send to the phone.
20:29:31 So you can get, because there's more green space.
20:29:35 You can get bigger reports. No, it's not that that data is not there.
20:29:39 It is, but you just can't see it, because the face is so small you can't see everything yeah, I think Kathleen's watch has 32 gigs of RAM, and just imagine my first personal computer had 48,000 Byte and this thing has 32
20:29:58 gigs in her watch. So it's a it's a very powerful computer in its own right.
20:30:03 Also just as an Fy. Both of of ours. Our cellular watches, so that we can actually send receive calls without using our phone if I leave the phone at home in someone calls me, I can answer it on the watch.
20:30:19 It looks kind of strange. You're standing there in the church.
20:30:26 Yeah.
20:30:22 Hello. Hello. Yes. People. Got? Oh, yes, yes, yes.
20:30:28 Lawrence Denise has a question
20:30:35 Yes.
20:30:30 I, just, yeah, I have a real quick one. You mentioned the magnifier, which sounded terrific, but I didn't understand how to get it.
20:30:38 Is it an app, or is it part of the oh.
20:30:39 Oh, no! It comes on the phone. He'll he'll do a demo of that.
20:30:44 Or where do you find it that I miss that more
20:30:45 Oh, I was, let him plug in, and he'll let's where is sharing? There it is.
20:30:49 Thank you.
20:30:53 Keep on moving. Sharing. Okay? Mirror
20:31:03 There we go. Okay, here is a very, very busy screen.
20:31:09 If I pull down from the top I get this menu.
20:31:14 That was my next question.
20:31:12 Of things that you can do, and one of them is that a magnifying glass and let's get back there.
20:31:24 It's kind of come on the magnifying glass is on the bottom row, and it's got it looks like a magnifying glass, and it's got up plus Simon in the middle of it, and if you press that you get the magnifying glass and with the magnifying glass, you pointed at something
20:31:40 Okay. Fantastic.
20:31:43 Okay.
20:31:49 Okay.
20:31:39 and you can make it larger. Or if I point, I pointed at some piece of text I can blow it up, or I can zoom in and out, and it's it just a way to to see things that are difficult to see.
20:32:04 Have a flashlight, or let's see what else is in that list.
20:32:08 I I guess that was my. My first question was, I didn't know how to get to that screen
20:32:14 It's kinda calculator. It's got a timer.
20:32:17 It's got a barcode, reader. It's got a recorder from Memos.
20:32:23 You can bring up wallet, you. I have it so it I can press Shazam, and if a piece of music playing in a restaurant, I say, what is that?
20:32:31 It'll tell me what the music is. A whole bunch of things, and
20:32:34 Denise. When you go to the top right corner, pull down from there, not in the center, the centers notifications, but the top right like over the battery
20:32:43 Okay.
20:32:45 Yeah.
20:32:45 But with an old, with an old phone like mine, am I?
20:32:55 Hmm.
20:32:49 I have an 8. You have to pull up, and from the bottom right corner and diagnosed
20:32:54 Hmm mine's 12, and I don't see a magnifier on it.
20:33:00 You know accessibility, or I think it's an accessibility.
20:33:05 You can add all kinds of shortcuts right there, like your calculator.
20:33:08 Okay.
20:33:09 And
20:33:10 Your flashlight. What did Lawrence say? He has Shazam already?
20:33:14 How is it?
20:33:18 Umhm.
20:33:14 Put in there you can select the different options for your shortcuts. There
20:33:19 I'll have to figure that out
20:33:19 If it's if you go into settings, if you go into settings on the iphone, go into control center.
20:33:26 There's just a whole bunch of things you can add.
20:33:31 Okay.
20:33:35 Okay. Thank you.
20:33:27 Yeah. It gives you a I have to. Actually, I have to limit it because I don't want to spend my time.
20:33:39 Scrolling, through all things that I don't use.
20:33:42 But any other questions
20:33:44 Yes, walking a cemetery. Is there any way to activate that without having the phone at my waist
20:33:54 It it. It will keep you. It'll it'll map what you're doing.
20:34:00 It doesn't have to be at your waste.
20:34:04 The reason why I mentioned that at your waste for walking is, that it gives you the most accurate measure of the amount of effort it takes to walk right. But if you're wearing a watch oh, we I think she's talking about.
20:34:15 I think she's talking about the the phone. But for the phone to it'll get the most accurate measurement of distance and of energy.
20:34:23 If it's if it's in the in the pants pocket or if I'm wearing a coat, I stick it in my coat pocket, and because it has to do with movement so because that co-pot it's by my hip it captures the
20:34:48 Yeah.
20:34:38 Most movement. If you're capturing your movement from your watch, as your arms are moving because your arms naturally swing as your walking, it captures up from your arm. Good answer
20:34:55 Oh no! It'll still capture it because of the sellerometer.
20:34:48 And if you have a dog on a on a leash, and so your arms not moving around
20:35:01 Yeah. The accelerometer knows you're moving
20:35:03 What screws it up
20:35:10 Like you go into health, and then I I find it occasionally.
20:35:16 I don't always, but I I have a new knee, and I'm trying to keep from limping, which is, that should help
20:35:23 Yes, yes.
20:35:25 I I it never shows any data is a problem
20:35:31 In the activity it. That's again something.
20:35:41 It has a default stride, but depending on how tall you are, you may your stride may be shorter, and so it may not be capturing it accurately.
20:35:50 Yeah. The
20:35:51 I, just yeah, it says, no data. So
20:35:54 Are you looking at your activity, at the fitness app on the phone?
20:35:58 No, I'm in health under walking a cemetery
20:36:01 Oh! Oh! That the health, though, gets the data from us!
20:36:06 Other things, right? Right? The help is just a a aggregator of various sources that are feeding things to it.
20:36:16 And you need to go into the health settings and tell it where it can get data.
20:36:18 But the the fitness app on the phone is where all of that activity is collected.
20:36:23 It's not in the health app. It's in the fitness, right? But
20:36:25 Okay, okay. I mean, I've got. I use that every day
20:36:28 Never told the health app. We're not okay.
20:36:34 Okay. Thank you.
20:36:37 Speaking of which you can also time the fitness app to your health record.
20:36:43 It depends upon who your get your health from, but the advantage for me entying my Omc health data into the Apple Health Record, the Apple Health Record has these really nice pretty bar charts, and so on.
20:37:00 And so forth, that it takes the data that you get from Omc, which is usually fairly boring and
20:37:09 Turns it into things that I can understand. So if it's worth it, if you if you have an online chart to tie it into your into the apple health app right?
20:37:21 And then the other thing is on the steps. If you go in and scroll to the right bottom, it says, Add to favorites, and it will automatically put steps into your summary.
20:37:33 So you you you can control how much or how little you have on your summary
20:37:44 Like I said we had about 3 h worth of material, and we spend an hour on it, so there's a lot of stuff, and I get.
20:37:51 Thank you.
20:37:52 I didn't get to the accessibility stuff at all, but I consider I consider accessibility also.
20:37:59 A health issue, because as we get older, our our ability to access printed data and sound, and so on and so forth, is compromised.
20:38:08 And the Mac and the iphone have a lot of things on them to deal with.
20:38:13 Accessibility. But we can do that. What we what are we gonna do next month is my next question.
20:38:20 Oh, a cat! We've seen that cat before!
20:38:27 Ideas for what we be doing next month
20:38:34 Let's do accessibility.
20:38:37 Yeah.
20:38:37 I was. Gonna say, can we do a part B with this
20:38:34 I will tell you that. Oh, okay, we can do accessibility.
20:38:42 Well, thank you. About it in terms of we'll think about a part.
20:38:48 B. But accessibility I would like to do. I did.
20:38:52 Want to mention. Apple introduced some new computers today.
20:38:55 They introduced some new macbook pros with M. 2 chips and a new Mac Mini, with an M.
20:39:04 2, chip, and M. 2 and an M. 2 pro chip, the little Mac Mini is 5 99.
20:39:13 And and basically this new Mac mini is more powerful than an Imac.
20:39:16 Of course, because it's Mac Mini. It doesn't have a screen, doesn't have a mouse, doesn't have a keyboard.
20:39:21 You have to supply those. But Apple introduced those today, and if you're in the market for a new Mac, you might go to Apple Site and take a look.
20:39:30 Any other questions.
20:39:33 I will take a look at the recording and see if it's decent and the close captioning and if they're decent I'll post them on the website in case you went will post and the keynote presentation will post on the website probably not the next day
20:39:56 Do.
20:39:52 or 2, but I will get around to it. Anything else. Oh, think about topics for an in-person meeting.
20:40:03 We'll we'll talk about that as well
20:40:08 Thank you. Lawrence.
20:40:07 Thank you.
20:40:09 Thank you.
20:40:05 In person meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
20:40:11 Thank you.
20:40:12 Bye, everybody!
20:40:08 Yes, thank you, Lawrence. Kathleen
20:40:13 Bye.
20:40:13 Bye.
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