The Strait Macintosh User Group meeting for March 2023 focused on photo editing, and how you could crop, resize, compress, and add captions to your photos using just the software that ships with your Macintosh (and iPhone and iPad). The demonstration involved macOS Ventura, Apple Photos, and Apple Preview.
Questions and Answers
Question about passwords — passwords that worked before do not seem to be working now. Your Mac automatically keeps track of passwords (from Apple programs, so yes, Safari and Apple Mail, but no, not necessarily Chrome or Firefox or Thunderbird) in a suite of software programs called, collectively, Keychain. Apple provides a utility to look at stored passwords, called Keychain Access. However, Keychain Access is written by engineers, and is not particularly user-friendly. If your Mac really did “remember” your password, you should be able to find it by using Keychain Access. However, you should also consider using 1Password, which is a commercial program that requires a subscription, but it is much easier to understand and can store, securely, a bunch of things (credit card numbers, secret notes to spies, loyalty card numbers, etc.) beyond just passwords.
A new MacBook Pro is not compatible with an existing laser printer — this may or may not be true. macOS can download drivers for a staggering number of new and obsolete printers. In Ventura, open System Settings > Printers & Scanners, press the Add Printer button, and if your Mac can “see” the printer, wired or wirelessly, it can probably find an appropriate driver. Printer and scanner manufacturers are notoriously poor about providing drivers for hardware they aren’t currently selling, but that doesn’t mean you can’t get it to work.
Planning to upgrade from a Mac Pro 2013 to Mac mini with M2 Pro processor — can I use the same external RAID? Most hard drives are warranted for 1 year, though a few may have warranties as long as 5 years. The RAID — with some adapters — should work with a new Apple Silicon-based Mac mini, but you might want to upgrade the RAID, too. You might consider upgrading the RAID, first, and copying everything from the old RAID to the new RAID, and then plugging in the Mac mini. The Mac mini (with appropriate adapters) should be able to handle the old RAID and the new RAID, allowing you to use the old RAID as a backup.
Later on, there was a brief discussion of ChatGPT, which has been in the news pretty much constantly recently. Vice President Lawrence Charters noted some of his interactions, and stated that ChatGPT isn’t really designed for heavy use, and is frequently unavailable, or slow, or unstable. This message was a frequent response to trivial questions:
Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com. There was an error generating a response Regenerate response ChatGPT Mar 14 Version. Free Research Preview. Our goal is to make AI systems more natural and safe to interact with. Your feedback will help us improve.
Other responses were accurate, if deflective, and some were quite funny:
Who will win the NCAA Women’s Basketball Tournament? As an AI language model, I am not capable of predicting the future or the outcome of sporting events. The NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament is a highly competitive event, and the outcome depends on a variety of factors, including the skill and performance of each team, their preparation leading up to the tournament, and luck. The best way to find out who will win the tournament is to follow the games and see how they unfold. Write a limerick on computer programming and kangaroos. There was a programmer from Perth Whose coding skills were quite an exert But one day he went astray And wrote a program for a stray Now his code was jumping like a kangaroo alert! Write a limerick on Apple Watch meeting an Android phone. An Apple Watch and Android phone, Met each other when they were alone, They tried to connect, But it was a reject, Now they communicate by tone. Write a haiku in Japanese Certainly, here's a haiku in Japanese: 古池や 蛙飛び込む 水の音 This is a famous haiku by Matsuo Basho, which is often translated as: An old silent pond A frog jumps into the pond— Splash! Silence again.
One question involved passwords and Keychain, Apple’s technology for managing and storing passwords. Lawrence suggested as references Take Control Books, https://www.takecontrolbooks.com/ and several specific books:
Take Control of Your Passwords, https://www.takecontrolbooks.com/passwords/
Take Control of 1Password [one password is a commercial password management program] https://www.takecontrolbooks.com/1password/
Take Control of iCloud [Apple uses iCloud to synchronize passwords between Apple devices] https://www.takecontrolbooks.com/icloud/
Another question involved where to send membership checks or membership renewal checks to Strait Macintosh User Group. The address can be found in the Join link in the top menu of the website.
For other questions, and sometimes appropriate answers, please see the video or the transcript, below.
Photo Editing on the Cheap
The most common photo editing needs are:
- Cropping: getting rid of unwanted sections of a photo, or changing the orientation from vertical to horizontal — Apple Preview or Apple Photos
- Straightening: changing the “horizon” of the photo so that the world, or room, does not look crooked. — Apple Photos
- Exposure: correcting for under or overexposure — Apple Photos and, to a lesser extent, Apple Preview
- Color correction: Correct for poor color, such as the yellow cast that comes from incandescent lighting. — Apple Photos and, to a lesser extent, Apple Preview
- Captioning: adding captions to photos. — Apple Photos and Apple Preview.
- Masking — Apple Preview, or, on the iPhone or iPad, Apple Photos.
You can do all of these editing functions with Apple Photos and Preview. For example, you can turn a photo of someone walking on a curb, copy just the person, insert a caption or title over the photo, and paste just the person back over the photo, to make it look as if the title is embedded in the photo and the person is walking toward it, like this:
Using Apple Preview to create a mask of the subject, then using Preview’s annotation function to add a title, and then pasting back the masked subject over the top, to create an embedded title.
Or use Apple Preview to modify a photo of a famous Chinese spy balloon and add a photo of a child jumping over the balloon:
Chinese spy balloon turned into child’s toy through Apple Preview masking magic.
There is one piece of software mentioned in the meeting that was not made by Apple: ImageOptim. ImageOptim is a free (free!) utility that compresses photos, so that they take less room when sent in an email or put on a website, or embedded in a document. It is free (free!) and easy to use: just drag one or more images on it, and ImageOptim will compress them. You can get it here:
And, if you care, they also make a Windows version.
A video of the meeting, including the Question and Answer (Q&A) session, is shown below. Closed captioning is available, if you select it in YouTube, and a transcript is also provided below the video.
Transcript of the meeting. The numbers in the left-hand column is the time, using a 24-hour clock. 18:39:05 translates to five seconds after 6:39 p.m. Pacific Time.
18:39:05 Turn on close captioning. And the reason why is that closed captioning, in addition to giving you closed captioning also makes a trcript of what we're talking so that I can later on find what lies I told people. 18:39:25 There is a book called Take Control of Icloud and take control of Troubleshooting. 18:39:31 Your Mac. I'm gonna show you the one for Icloud, because I know it has a a chapter on on key chain, and if you have the chat window open I'm going to the URL into the chat window. 18:39:48 So that, you can see what the book is. It's an electronic book. 18:39:54 You can buy it online. And the E, and then download it immediately, so that you can start reading it. 18:40:03 But what teaching is? It's a database on your macintosh that keeps track of passwords, and a lot of passwords you use passwords all the time when you log into your computer after rebooting or trinity it on you're using after your username and 18:40:21 password, and it's being stored in Keychain. 18:40:22 The other nice thing about Keychain is that if you haven't, if you have an iphone or an imax any password that you use on your on your iphone or your ipad automatically get synced to icloud and get synced to your mac so if you log, into your 18:40:40 your bank, from from your computer, and then you're out at the grocery store and you wanna check on what your bank is doing. 18:40:49 You can do that from your iphone, even though you've never logged in from your iphone. 18:40:58 Okay. 18:40:54 The key chain will remember what your bank password is, so it's very handy because it syncs among all the apple devices. 18:41:12 Okay. 18:41:04 But the reason why I don't recommend that you try and edit it with a reference is that it's really easy to delete things that you say. 18:41:16 I've never I don't know what this is. I'll just delete it. 18:41:17 Okay. 18:41:17 And then, later on, that you really needed that. 18:41:21 Right. So you you did send something, and I could see that it would be a way to get you to get to the book that you recommend. 18:41:31 And then it disappeared was just a tiny little. 18:41:35 Well it should scroll. It should be in the chat window. 18:41:41 If you open up the chat window, it should appear there. 18:41:44 There it is. Okay. Thank you. And it'll just stay there. 18:41:49 Okay. 18:41:49 Yes, and at the end of the at the end of the session, where that there's 2, little, 3 little dots down at the bottom of the chat window, and if you click on it you'll see that you can save the chat so anytime anyone types anything in during the meeting into the 18:42:17 Okay. 18:42:06 Chat window. It'll it'll save all the chat messages to a text file so that you have a copy of what we talked about and things that we might have referenced I'm going to type something into it later on. 18:42:20 When I get to talking about tonight. So topic. 18:42:27 But the key chain is just a little on the confusing side. 18:42:34 It's extremely important. But it wasn't really designed to be user friendly. 18:42:41 There is a commercial program that that I you personally use instead of keychain. 18:42:48 Mike Mac still uses Keychain. I'm not saying I'm replacing it, but there's a commercial program called One Password. 18:42:55 That does a really nice job of saving your passwords, your credit card information member member cards like you. 18:43:07 There, you if you were a member of various rewards. 18:43:12 Things you can store rewards things in there, and all kinds of things. 18:43:16 You can store, or just notes like, for example, when I go to the to the doctor's office, and they want to know what drugs are you taking? 18:43:25 I don't remember what drugs I'm taking. 18:43:26 They've got these, you know, 47 character long names. I don't know what they're so I type those into one password and a note, and then I can bring that up at the doctor's office, and they say, are you taking section section. 18:43:40 I say yes, and they say how much? Oh, I'm taking 50 milligrams, and it's it's there on my phone. 18:43:47 So I don't have to when they give me that sheet to fill out. 18:43:54 Okay. 18:43:50 I just say, huh! I got this because I already know. 18:43:57 So I recommend, when password, what password costs money, key change built in your Mac, so you can use it for free. 18:44:03 But it's it's just one password is just much easier to understand and much easier to edit. 18:44:13 Okay. 18:44:12 Then thank I cannot tell you. The number of people that I've had to rescue after they edited Keychain and ended up destroying something that one person deleted the passwords that they were using for their other computer which was awkward but 18:44:37 Problematic yeah. 18:44:36 hmm, Uhhuh, yeah, there are times there are times when we try to make things simple, and it turns out less than simple. 18:44:50 Anyway? Any other questions. Yes. 18:44:52 I have a question. Hi, just recently purchased a used Hi, Mac, because my macbook pro I downloaded the latest and greatest operating system. 18:45:09 But I have a hey laser, printer, brother, printer, that's older, and they won't support that operating system. 18:45:19 So I'm not willing to give up that I didn't want to give up my my printer, laser printer, so I just got a a used imac. 18:45:31 Okay. 18:45:32 So. And I'm using that and it prints. You know, it works perfectly problem I'm having is to, you know normally you have an Imac, and then you might add a macbook pro. 18:45:45 And I'm sort of going the opposite direction. So like I can't get both of my email addresses to link on the Imac, and I don't know how I put in my when I first got it, I went through my. 18:46:07 Anyway, so is there some way that I can check to link it to the cloud? 18:46:13 To my cloud account. 18:46:16 What? What kind of who's your email account with? 18:46:20 It's with Gmail. 18:46:23 Gmail. It should just happen automatically. 18:46:32 Okay. 18:46:30 If if you go into, let me show you easiest way is to share that screen and that's kind of not what I was interested in. 18:46:41 Sharing. But go away. Go away. If you go into yeah system preferences is that? No, it's not. 18:47:00 I'm thinking over. Thank you. An old operating system. 18:47:08 I don't remember where you have accounts now. Internet accounts. 18:47:13 There it is, and unfortunately I can't move this screen because there's a bar at the top. 18:47:23 From zoom that makes it difficult. You go into Internet accounts and use. 18:47:28 I have Icloud and Google. But if I had say, I didn't have Google here, you just say add account, you pick what kind it is. 18:47:36 Google. And then it says to open a browser Google requires that you do this using a web browser, you open a browser. 18:47:46 It goes to gmail dot Ddd. And it doesn't like this, because I've I'm doing a zoom session same time. 18:47:55 So things are slow, but pretending I was in there. 18:47:58 It'll ask for my name and as a password, and assuming I do it correctly, it'll just add my Gmail account right there, and that will happen on your macbook, or it'll happen on your Imac. 18:48:13 Both of work the same way you do have to put in your your, the correct username and password. 18:48:20 But that's that's basically all you have to do. 18:48:24 And then it remembers that. And if you write a message on one machine it'll appear in the cent folder on your other machine, and if you write a new message on your other machine it'll appear on the scentma folder on the first machine. 18:48:40 It. It's basically just one account. It's 2 different views of the same account. 18:48:44 I. So I've gone through that, and I have added it. 18:48:47 And it says it already has it but a like on my ipad and my iphone. 18:48:54 It shows. You know, I can like you're saying in both accounts. 18:48:59 Show there, for some reason on me that my new Imac doesn't show the second email address. 18:49:08 And it's not that big a deal, but it would just I'm just curious why it didn't. 18:49:13 Sync, you know. 18:49:14 Well did you get? Did you get an error message or anything, or did it? Just not? 18:49:18 Oh, it's it's there, but it doesn't show. 18:49:21 I can put it under favorites, but none of it isn't bringing over any of the messages. 18:49:28 Okay, something to think about. If you have touched something typed in the search bar in in your email account, it will show no messages. 18:49:44 Okay. 18:49:40 If nothing matches that. So we have to clear your search bar and the other thing to note is that it is the firm. 18:49:47 I'll go back here again, for if you bring up mail email, mail is on the other screen, you may have it so that it's not showing, because it's so. 18:50:02 It's minimized. So, for example, I have all of these different accounts. 18:50:05 Actually, I only have 2, but the icloud here is minimize. 18:50:10 So if I bring it down now, it's showing Icloud. 18:50:11 Bring Google here. Now, it's showing Google. They're there. 18:50:15 And up here at the top, showing all the inboxes at once, so depending upon. 18:50:22 If you're using apple mail for your mail client or Google, it may be that you just have told it to minimize it, and it's there, and you just don't see it. 18:50:29 Okay. Okay. 18:50:30 Uhhuh, but it as an example. Let me come up here to my search bar. 18:50:36 Come on. Search bar. Huh! 18:50:39 Go! Be there! 18:50:43 Where is the search? 18:50:48 Oh, there it is, usually on my regular account. 18:50:52 I don't have it there. So that's why I'm confused. 18:50:56 But if you type in Jeff, and that's Zach. 18:51:03 Sorry, and that's apparently I'll type in something else if I have something here in the search bar. 18:51:11 You come over here and you don't realize that this is in the search bar. 18:51:14 All of your messages look like they're blank, and they're really not blank. 18:51:17 It's just you need to go over here and clear the search bar that the search bar filters everything. 18:51:26 And if you forgot that you're searching for something you think, why aren't there any messages here? 18:51:30 And it's just because you haven't cleared the search bar. 18:51:33 So that's another way that you can do it. But quite often it's because people have minimized this, or they've even for some reason, turned it off. 18:51:43 And if you do that, then it's it's not going to show up. 18:51:47 So for example, here, if I go into my male settings, I can go into my accounts. 18:51:53 I can come here, and I can make that inactive, and if I make it inactive, it's just doesn't show up, and you can do that. 18:52:00 Sometimes accidentally, cause I've done that accidentally. So. 18:52:06 So there several possibilities there. But if it's a Googler email account you typed in the name and address, and it says it's there and it act. Then I would look to make sure that you haven't hidden in some way. 18:52:22 Okay. Thank you. 18:52:23 I had, I think I told this story before I had one of my coworkers in National Ocean, and it can atmospheric administration who told me that his email box was empty, and I knew that he never threw away anything so I found the hard to believe and he went over there. 18:52:43 And there was nothing there, and I said, Send yourself a message. 18:52:47 And so he sent himself a message, which means that that it should discipline, and then it should reappear in the screen, and it disappeared, and then it reappeared just as a flicker, and disappeared, and I thought what the hell he had set a a script, that said put 18:53:06 all red messages into red mail. Well, since he was in the inbox as soon as it shows up, but we count as being read and put it in his read Mail. 18:53:18 So his inbox looked like it was empty. No, it wasn't empty. 18:53:22 It's just he had set this script, and I tried really, really, really hard. 18:53:27 Not to laugh, but I had. I had never seen anyone do that before, and it cracked me up. 18:53:33 But I'm not making fun of him, or you. 18:53:36 I'm just saying that with with email, you kind of have to think like a robot. 18:53:42 The computer's not particularly bright, and if you told it, for whatever reason, to nest your email messages or to filter them, or something like that, it'll do it. 18:53:53 It does. It doesn't really care. Why, it'll do. 18:53:56 And sometimes you have to. If it says it's there, then then believe it, and then see what it is that you might have done to make it be invisible. 18:54:07 I had. Yes! 18:54:10 Yes. 18:54:07 I'm sorry I have a question. So on my iphone for settings. 18:54:16 I have no clue. Anything about family sharing, because it's just me, and it says family. 18:54:25 It's got my little red dot that says it needs to be updated family purchase sharing up. 18:54:29 And then it says, You know, view details, and it says, then the my next thing says, Allow sharing but I don't want to allow sharing. If it's just me. 18:54:39 So what do I do? 18:54:43 At some point you might have turned on family sharing. 18:54:45 But if there's nobody to share it with, then, if family sharing can is usually for things like photos and a bunch of other things, and just go see if you've accidentally turned it on, we have a family plan for Kathleen and I have a family plan that also 18:55:05 includes our daughter in England, because it's the easiest, fastest way to get pictures of our granddaughter. 18:55:12 But if you if you're not intending that, then you've probably turned it on in either photos or documents. 18:55:20 Hi Ted it on in photos to share something on photos. 18:55:24 So that's what that is. 18:55:24 Oh, okay, if you turn it on in photos, you don't have to turn on family sharing. 18:55:29 Okay. 18:55:32 Okay. 18:55:29 You can share individual photos or do a lot of people do. 18:55:35 And just email it, that's one of the things going to be talking about tonight is how to shrink your photos. 18:55:40 So you don't blow up people's mailboxes. 18:55:41 So where do I find vine sharing? Is it in my settings? 18:55:46 Is it what I? 18:55:50 Okay. 18:55:46 It's in this. I think it's in the settings for photos, but I've had it turned on forever, and I'm not absolutely sure. 18:55:54 Yeah. 18:55:54 Hi! Thank you. 18:55:58 Hey? You got about 5 more minutes before we start. So. 18:56:01 Laurence, I have a question. I talked to you last time about the fact that I'm I have a Mac. 18:56:10 Yes. 18:56:09 Pro 2013. It's on his last legs, and I can't update it to the latest operating system. 18:56:16 Yes. 18:56:18 So I'm looking at a Mac mini pro to replace it. 18:56:22 Yes. 18:56:22 But I have a external Owc. For bay 4 TB each. 18:56:33 Drive that lot of my photos and things are on. Can I upgrade my Mac? 18:56:41 Minnie, and keep my bay for a while without upgrading the bay. 18:56:53 Yes, it is real. 18:56:46 Yes, yes, you can. But if the if your rate it cause it is a rate, if it's Scott, for if your raid if the drives in the raid are more than 5 years old, and the Mac pro came out in 2,013 the the longest warranty, you can get for 18:57:07 our hard drive is 5 years. So if you're approaching that 5 and some places only have them a year warranty. 18:57:15 But it depends upon the manufacturer. So the some have one somewhat tab, 2, some have 3, some have 5, but if you're drive has a one year warranty, and you're on, its fourth or fifth year, then you're probably already into replacement range, there, and if it's got a 5 year. 18:57:33 warranty, and you've had 8 years, and you're also well into the replacement range. 18:57:38 And I mentioned this because if you have a new machine and your new machine is doing things, and when you plug in your rate into your new machine, you'll need an adapter for that, by the way, but when you plug your raid into your new machine the first thing, your new machine is going to do is 18:57:53 re-index everything because it's a new operating system, and so on, so forth. 18:57:57 That's creates an awful lot of dis activity. 18:58:02 And I can tell you a number of people that the first thing they did with their new machine was, plug it into these old drives that re-indexed everything derived, overheated, and died. 18:58:10 Oh no! 18:58:09 And I'm not saying that's going to happen to you. 18:58:12 But I do want you to to give some serious thought to either buying replacement drives to replace the ones that you have, that you bought. 18:58:22 Whenever you bought them, or to get a new raid. 18:58:32 No! 18:58:27 The raid that you have right now, I know, does not have thunderbolt, for which is what is offered on the new Mac Macbook Pros. 18:58:37 So drive a rate that had Thunderbolt forward. 18:58:41 Be a good idea, and or thunderbolt 3, for that matter. 18:58:51 Hey? Are they doing? Between 3? The difference between 3 and 4? 18:58:57 Is not that dramatic? But yeah, they, if getting a new thunderbolt rate, is probably a good idea. 18:58:45 I was gonna say, the Owc's highest thunderbolt is a 3 right now. 18:59:06 You probably don't have to do it immediately. But you do want to think about the fact that if you're running old tires and on your new sports car, that's probably not good for either the sports car or the tires. 18:59:19 So I at first I was gonna replace both of them upfront, and then I thought, What if I do? 18:59:26 The Mac Mini first, and then, you know, after things settle down, then upgrade the Owc bank. 18:59:35 But you're saying it's gonna re-index, and it might be not worth it right. 18:59:42 I'm not gonna say that it's gonna re-index. It. 18:59:46 Then you're old. Rate is going to go. 18:59:47 Proof. I'm just saying that plugging a raid that's been formatted back in 2,013, plugging it into a Mac Mini and new Mac Mini is going to be running apple silicon the operating system because it's completely different the operating system 19:00:05 Bye! 19:00:07 is also so far more advanced than it was back then. 19:00:10 So it's going to spend a lot of time re-entering that raid. 19:00:15 It'll basically rewrite pretty much everything. And if there's something wrong, even a little thing wrong with the old raid, it could be it could be bad. 19:00:24 What I have done when I've had similar things. What I do is I buy a new raid, and then I use that new raid to suck the brains out of the old. 19:00:34 So could I do so. You're saying, maybe do the drive first even though I'm on a older operating system with my Mac pro. 19:00:45 Do the drive first, and then upgrade to the next. 19:00:53 Okay. Yes. 19:01:01 Really paranoid. 19:01:01 I mean I can do it all at once. But if I don't know how to do this, and am I? 19:01:23 A little question is, when you buy an Owc. Drive, it comes optionally with software software if you want it. But I don't have that right now. 19:01:25 Yeah, it's. 19:01:23 I think I'm just using Mac raid software. I well, initially, when I set it up, I was using the server software because it wasn't integrated in the Mac at the time. 19:01:33 So I actually had separate server Max Server software. 19:01:38 Now it's all integrated, and I'm not quite sure you know, so much has changed since then, so. 19:01:46 The service offer is actually fairly irrelevant. 19:01:48 You can actually turn it off on the on your old machine. 19:01:52 It's not necessary that it be turned on for anything and the way in which you get the stuff from your old rate to your new rage, you just plug them. 19:02:02 You plug them into each other, and you just grab folders and you just drag it to the new machine. 19:02:09 I usually do it in stages, and and I color code. 19:02:16 The the folders after I'd made them. I color code. 19:02:20 Them blue blue means they've been black backed up, but you can colorcod it any way you want, but just keep track of which ones you've dragged over. 19:02:28 So you make sure that you get everything but you know, take, like, you know, 50 GB 100 GB, 200 GB, whatever you want to at a time. 19:02:40 And drag that over until everything is done doing it in stages, does 2 things. 19:02:46 First, it confirms to you that you're doing it right, and second, it minimizes the amount of time that both drives are spinning and using electricity. 19:02:58 It gives them a chance to rest. 19:03:00 So are you doing this? Would you do this while with my Mac pro before upgrade? 19:03:06 The AIM when you plug, if if you, if you have, if you're not changing anything on your old raid, and you copy everything to the new rate, then you plug your your new Mac mini into the new rate, everything should work perfectly the new, rick the new Mac 19:03:23 Mini is still going to index everything but I shouldn't really cause any great strain, and if there is a problem, keep in mind, you still have your old raid. 19:03:34 That's true, right? 19:03:34 There. So it's basically your backup at that point. 19:03:40 Okay. I'm very nervous about all this. 19:03:44 I didn't set it up. In the first place, I had Mac. Traders actually did it for me, and so I'm trying to put the pieces together in the right order. 19:03:56 Yeah, well, I'm just very. I'm just very paranoid myself. 19:04:02 So I tend to do things in stages. 19:04:09 Somebody asked a question and asked if I have a sign in sheet. 19:04:14 No, I did not make a sign in sheet. 19:04:19 So sorry about that. I should have. But no, just do it, do it in stages, do one bit, then do another bit, and because, among other things that it reassures you that you're doing it right. 19:04:33 Thank. 19:04:32 Lawrence. 19:04:34 Yes. 19:04:37 While this conversation has been going on, I've been writing D, the screen names of everybody who's here. 19:04:45 That's useful. 19:04:46 I could, so I could, you know, backup. 19:04:50 Yes, thank you. 19:04:52 Okay. 19:04:54 Mine. It's a time to go onto a program and is is our president here? 19:05:05 I don't see her. 19:05:08 I'm here. 19:05:10 Huh! Well! 19:05:14 I'm here. 19:05:13 She's with. She's with that she's with an Alice. 19:05:17 Oh, okay. Sorry. 19:05:17 Yeah, she's here. Good evening, everybody, and welcome. 19:05:27 I just put in the on the side there where we have the chat window for the address, for to send your yearly dues. 19:05:40 They are $24 per year per household if you haven't done so, could you? 19:05:46 Please just do that. And for those that have a we really appreciate it. 19:05:51 I have a question. Does anybody here know a Jim Arnold and Elizabeth lead? 19:06:02 Hello, butchering the last minute. Does it sound familiar to anybody? Lauren? 19:06:10 Hey! Have you spoken with any of either of those 2 names? 19:06:14 I don't have. 19:06:14 They sent us dues. But we don't have an email address for them. 19:06:21 Well, unfortunately, I can't wait. Could could you send me an email message with that? 19:06:26 And I'll take a look I can't see the database with with. 19:06:32 I made my fake user account right now, so I can't see. Can't see the records. 19:06:33 That's fine. I can. 19:06:36 You. You want checks, right? 19:06:38 Yes, please. Yeah. And do you see the address there in the chat where you can send it to? And. 19:06:47 Would you make it out? Who do you make it out to? 19:06:51 Smart. Okay. 19:06:49 Smug. Yeah, it's yeah. And it's a secure mailbox. 19:06:57 If people are concerned, it's it's like a Po box, but it's a personal one here by the oases in that parking lot. 19:07:07 So it would be secure if we don't check it daily. 19:07:12 I think that's everything. Oh, and, Lauren, I just have to tell you we really appreciate you and thank you always for doing such awesome meetings and a big thanks to your lovely wife, Kathleen, for always doing dictating and posting and the notes that's fantastic you don't get 19:07:32 enough appreciation or I don't know if people think you in private or not. 19:07:37 But we definitely appreciate you. 19:07:38 Thank you. 19:07:40 And now I turn it over to analyze the register and show, update the the money that was taken in. 19:07:48 I think through the news. Yeah, we got 5 more membership payments this last month, and like Sabrina said, We really thank you for sending a meeting. 19:08:03 And now at this point the balance is a $2,099 and 90 cents, and no expenses. 19:08:13 This month, Lawrence, you said you're gonna have some coming up right. 19:08:19 Yes, I there's there's the renewal for the the Forum software on the site, and also some wordpress expense. 19:08:34 But I don't remember offhand what it was. 19:08:39 I. I'm not terribly diligent about keeping track of this stuff, but that's. 19:08:52 Yup! 19:08:47 I just know there was something that was coming up in the end couple of months or so, and the other question was, When did you want to do it? 19:08:57 The in person. Have we discussed that? 19:08:59 We did, but then I got my church is busy doing the run up to Easter, and so I got. 19:09:09 I've been kind of swan with that, but I wanted to do it on a Saturday, and the reason why is that if we do it on a Saturday afternoon, that it's light out and such, and so it's easier for people to do things, and Sundays it's 19:09:30 hard for it's hard at a church to do anything on a Sunday but a Saturday afternoon. 19:09:35 People are working short should be off, and people don't have to drive in the dark and so on. 19:09:40 So forth, so as I, as, and just. Sometime April, May, June, I'd like to do it before we get too much further into summer. 19:09:56 Simply because it's a. It's kind of a public service thing. 19:10:00 And B. It would. There's some things that I really can't over. 19:10:06 Zoom I kinda have to have. I have to do it in front of people, because if I reboot my machine during a zoom everything goes bye-bye. 19:10:15 So! 19:10:15 Okay, just that. We leave enough time and not try to do it. 19:10:21 At the end of the meeting, when you're creating, you know, finishing up. 19:10:25 Right. 19:10:26 And I thought maybe we betterd better to discuss it prior to, so that we give it enough time. 19:10:31 So this is something that smock will put on, but it is a community. 19:10:36 It's open to the community. 19:10:38 Right? Okay. 19:10:39 And it'd be it'd be something that among other things, we need enough time to actually kind of advertise it. 19:10:46 Then tell people that we're doing it. Hey, June! 19:10:50 Yeah, yeah, so, we're probably looking at May, June and order to have enough lead time to do this. 19:11:01 And we have to make sure that the churches, and doing something else that same Saturday like, for example, somebody asked me to do something next Monday, and I said, No, can't do that. 19:11:13 We're having a blood drive. And they're saying, you're having a blood drive a church and says, Yeah, we go through a lot of butt at our church and says, Yeah, we go through a lot of butt at our church. 19:11:23 Okay. Sounds good. 19:11:27 Any other questions? 19:11:31 Okay, I wanted to talk tonight about photo editing, using basically stuff that you already have do stuff for free. 19:11:44 And a lot of people don't know what their Mac and their iphone and their ipad can really do. 19:11:51 I would. There's one. There's one thing that I do all the time that you can't do for free. 19:11:56 It does cost something. But for most of the stuff that most photo editing that people need to do, they can do using tools that they already have. And I'm going to share my screen. 19:12:14 And turn off stuff that I don't need, and move this bar some place else, because it's in my way. 19:12:23 First thing I wanted to do is talk a bit about photos. Photos, has a whole bunch of editing tools built in. 19:12:36 And. 19:12:45 Has a bunch of editing tools built in, and a lot of people haven't really thought about it. 19:12:51 This is just a collection of random stuff that I threw into a library. 19:12:56 The library. Among other things, you can sit here and look at thumbnails of the various things that you have in your in your library. 19:13:05 You can also change the size of the thumbnails so you can have it like this, which I think looks really cool even though it's impossible. 19:13:13 Actually see anything, or you can zoom in so that it's so. 19:13:16 The individual photographs are quite large. Most people will want to have it, and something like that size, so they can scroll through things and actually have some idea you can sort things by years by months by days, or you can just go all photos which again, is something a lot, of people have had been had this for years never 19:13:38 paid attention to it. The Mac automatically iphone does this to automatically sorts things into what it calls memories. 19:13:49 And these are topics that the Mac picks out either because there are a bunch of photos introduced on that day, or you created as a series of events that it thinks are interesting, or you have a I created an album called airplane. 19:14:04 So it made a thing called airplanes, cause it things I like airplanes. 19:14:09 Memories are done by the computer with the, with a few exceptions, you can create new memories, but for the most part these are automatically generated. 19:14:17 If we had a bunch of people it would have people by photos that I have really don't have any people. 19:14:24 But normally a lot of us will have a whole bunch of pictures of people there. 19:14:28 Places are places that the Mac can figure out from the photographs where they were taken. 19:14:36 So, for example, this showing that there are 3 photos that were taken in Denver, and I happen to know what these are, and if I click on it eventually, it'll show me what the pictures are. 19:14:47 It's pictures taken at the Denver airport. So. 19:14:54 But this. These are places that it knows where the pictures were taken. 19:15:00 You'll see that I have some that were taken in England, and some that were taken in, and this is just things that it can tell from the from the photograph. 19:15:10 If you take a photo with any recent. I found when I say recent in this case, like I ate, or better, it actually embeds geographic information into almost every picture that you take. 19:15:24 So it knows where you took those pictures, but you can also add things so for things that it doesn't know where they were taken. 19:15:32 You can actually add that. And I'm gonna show you how to do that later on. 19:15:37 Favorites are things that you put a little heart by. Reasons are things that have recently been imported, imports of things that have been imported, and the newest version of photos also has a duplicates feature. 19:15:50 It goes through and flags all the duplicates that you have. 19:15:53 So if you have a bunch of duplicates, it'll go through and flag these, some of your some of your photos can get quite large. 19:16:01 So let's go back here. None of these are particularly large, but some of them give me quite large, and so if they're duplicates, it's a good idea to know that. 19:16:11 And you can just go through and kill off a bunch of duplicates and save a lot of space on your hard drive. 19:16:18 It also has media types. Now, there are different kinds of media types and I'm gonna talk about what it thinks as a media type, a videos, obviously a video. 19:16:27 And these are the videos that I have on there. You'll see that when it was finding duplicate photos it didn't find duplicate photos. 19:16:34 It doesn't include duplicate videos and there's a reason why it doesn't include video. 19:16:40 So if you have a video that takes a lot of space like this one, you have to mildly, manually say to delete it. 19:16:49 And this, by the way, is going to save several megabytes just by deleting that duplicate selfies. 19:16:56 You'll notice that none of these are traditional selfies. 19:17:00 Instead of being pictures of my face. These are pictures of other things, and what a selfie is! 19:17:10 It means that you took this picture, using the front facing camera on your iphone. 19:17:15 So this is actually the roof of a cathedral in Helsinki. 19:17:20 I believe, and I was interested in it, because these are electric lights. 19:17:25 But one upon a time. Those were candles, and I didn't fill like craning my neck, back, and trying to take a photograph. 19:17:33 So I helped my phone flat in front of me and just said, Take a photograph straight up, and I use that quite often. 19:17:43 This is the roof of the Chapter House and York Minster. 19:17:50 Actually, this is not Chapter House. This is in. This is at the University I'll sync up. 19:17:55 Tells me right a stop is university of sinking. This one is the chapter House in New York. 19:18:03 So just shooting straight up. It's a really fantastic ceiling. 19:18:08 So you might as well take a picture of it, and this is again in York. Minster. 19:18:14 It's a it's a it's a canopy over a tool in the main sanctuary, and I don't remember what that one is. 19:18:23 That's also at York Minster. This is kind of interesting. 19:18:29 This bottom part of the photo back back here. This square grid. 19:18:31 Those are oak beams, and those oak beams are over a 1,000 years old, so you can. 19:18:39 You can learn a lot by staring at ceilings. 19:18:42 This is the underside of our table. I wanted to know where the brace was for the table, and I didn't feel like crawling into the fold, floor, so I stuck my kicked by phone under there and took a photograph of it, but as far as the 19:18:57 Mac is concerned, anything taking with the front facing camera is a self. 19:19:03 This is the only thing that kind of looks like a selfie. 19:19:07 This is Kathleen, dressed up to go bike riding on a cold day. 19:19:12 Now this cold day was 55 degrees, but Kathleen doesn't like cold, so she's well bundled up. 19:19:21 But the anything taken with the front facing camera is a self, a portrait is not necessarily a portrait. 19:19:28 A portrait means that it uses the portrait settings that are built into the iphone. 19:19:36 So this is a picture of George and George Washington in the town of George Washington, and I use the portrait mode because I was having trouble with the light. 19:19:46 It was on overcast day, and I just didn't like the light and the portrait mode does. 19:19:51 It does different things with the light, and I wanted to see if it wasn't to take a better picture of the statute. 19:19:57 This is a survey marker. And again it was a day that I didn't like the lights. 19:20:02 So I use the portrait mode to get the kind of light I wanted. 19:20:07 This is the closest to what a portrait mode! 19:20:08 Normally this, these are the steps going up to the altar in our church, and it's only about 6 feet away. 19:20:16 But it's fuzzy, and that's what the portrait Numuno. 19:20:19 Normally does. If you take a picture of a person's face with portrait mode, it'll try and blur out the background behind it, because when you're taking a you don't really, you're not interested in what's behind the person you're interested in there in their face so this was done with portrait 19:20:37 mode, because I wanted to blur out the background. But a portrait mode, again, is using the portrait mode setting on the phone a panoram. 19:20:47 These are not true panoramas. These are clipart that just happens to have a horizontal aspect. 19:20:54 But the Mac looks at things with that homeizontal aspect, but the Mac looks at things with that horizontal aspect. It says, Oh, that's a panoramic, and no, these are just it's Clip art that happens to have a horizontal aspect. 19:21:05 This is a true panorama. These are power turbines just slightly west of vantage. 19:21:13 Washington, and I wanted to get a I wanted to get a panoramic views. 19:21:18 I took a panorama, and this is just some prairie. Ouch! 19:21:23 In Eastern Washington, Kathleen and I went to school at Washington State University. 19:21:28 So we had this thing for empty prairie type areas. 19:21:33 This is the inside of the a dungeoness hook. 19:21:43 It's the sea shore there on a cold winter day. 19:21:47 This is not really a panorama either. But again, it's a vertical. 19:21:51 It's a horizontal aspect to the photograph and it's a fake. 19:21:56 Harry Potter quote that cracked me up, but it's a sign that I saw. 19:22:02 So basically a panoram is something that's really it's got a horizontal aspect. 19:22:07 This really is a horizontal. This is really was done in panorama mode, but I wanted to take a picture of this. 19:22:15 Get old gas, station, pump, it's at a pub in near the Uw. 19:22:23 And it was tall and narrow. So I put my phone in panorama mode. 19:22:30 And then I just move the camera up and down to take a panorama. 19:22:34 Most people think of panorama's as horizontal, but this is a vertical panorama, and the Mac Mac Mac knows that it's a panorama, and so it threw it in. 19:22:44 There, but that's what a panorama is. 19:22:46 Time, lapse. It's just it. You set your phone in time. 19:22:51 Lapse mode, and then it goes, turns these gently moving power turbines into really really rapid fans, or this is a fountain and Bouchard gardens that looks like that had too many amphetamines. 19:23:16 And this is a ferry that you definitely do not want to take. 19:23:20 If you're going to Canada because it's really moving a rapid clip. 19:23:26 Slow-mo is just the opposite of that. Instead of something being very rapid, it's very slow, and this is an example of what it means. 19:23:36 This was a very windy day, and this is at regular speed. 19:23:41 And a couple of seconds. It's gonna this is now in slow MoD. 19:23:46 It's still moving very, very rapidly, but the camera switch to slow motion. 19:23:55 Can anyone tell me how slow motion works? 19:24:01 When you see something on the movies. That's a movie frame, a movie is normally at 20 fourfour frames a second when they do things at in slow motion. 19:24:12 And to make it look and slow motion. What they do is they double, triple, or quadruple the film rate and then they play it back at normal speed. 19:24:22 So if you play back something that was shot at high speed, and you play it back at normal speed. 19:24:28 It looks like it's in slow motion or in this case it was moving very rapidly, and it looks like it's moving very slowly. 19:24:35 And here's the Dungeness River normal speed. 19:24:42 And it's slow motion. 19:24:45 So it's just taking a lot of pictures very rapidly, and it's playing it back at normal speed. 19:24:53 And your Mac can detect. That's what it's doing. 19:24:54 So it automatically classifies video selfies portrait panorama by information in the photograph and cinematic is using a cinematic filter to take a a video, a burst mode means you're taking a whole bunch of pictures. 19:25:12 Very rapidly, and I do this for things sometimes. It's by accident. 19:25:18 I didn't mean to do that for this ceiling, but these fireworks! 19:25:21 It's very difficult to take fireworks, so in order to get a good picture, the fireworks and it's dark and a whole bunch of other things going up. 19:25:31 I hold it in burst mode on a on a iphone. 19:25:34 You just hold down the button, and it just takes a whole bunch of pictures rapidly and then up here at the top you'll see it says, make a selection, and it gives you this menu down at the bottom, and you can go through the individual frames of that burst and if you find when you really 19:25:53 like this like this one. You can say that's the one I want it's a way of cheating to get a good picture when when you're having difficulties taking a normal picture. 19:26:06 Burst mode for a fog is really useless. 19:26:09 That was definitely not one of my better ideas. Screenshot. 19:26:17 When you take a screenshot on your Mac, you take a screenshot on your ipad or on your iphone. 19:26:23 It knows. You took a screen shot. So anytime you take a screenshot. 19:26:28 It, puts them all together, and so I don't know why. 19:26:31 I took a screenshot of that, but this I took. 19:26:34 This is a watch face. I took this screenshot for my presentation on for our presentation on health that we did couple months ago, and so it just puts them all together. 19:26:44 If you if you use Google Photos, Google Photos will periodically nag you to get rid of your screenshots because it knows that as a mistake. 19:26:57 And you probably want to delete them. But in my case I actually deliberately take screenshots. 19:27:01 An animated one means that it's got several frames that have been compressed together it to create one image, and it happens to move. 19:27:10 So this is a it's a series of stills that are offset to make it look like it's old fashioned movie. 19:27:20 Or in this case, it's a series of stills that are put together to make animation, and this was done mine by daughter. 19:27:30 This is her daughter here, and these are her other grandparents, and they're feeding ducks in England. 19:27:39 And essentially, what an animated movie what animated gif is just several images that play one after the other, and they're sent as one phone. 19:27:47 So it knows what these things are, and I'll raw. 19:27:50 Is that on high Endend cameras you have the option of shooting something wrong with what a raw photo does is that it captures an unbelievable amount of information, so that the images tend to be much larger. 19:28:07 But you can do a lot more in terms of editing, and I gotta talk about those in a in a bit and in terms of what you do. 19:28:14 You can also create drawings. You can also create albums and an updum is just a collection of photos that you've put together for a particular reason, like there's one drawing that's a drawing black and white photos these are black and white photos airplanes these are 19:28:30 airplanes. And I created this thing of airplanes, and same thing with ships and actually, there's a lot of boats, too. 19:28:37 So these are all alums are something that you create. 19:28:43 But the media types. That's Mac does that automatically and memories. For the most part, the Mac does that automatically. 19:28:49 And if I had a bunch of people photos it would I put in people photos and ask me who they are? 19:28:57 So the Mac does that automatically, and you can do all that with photos. 19:29:00 But when it comes to editing you can do an awful lot of stuff with editing as well, and I'm going to go take hey? 19:29:13 If we get back to the black and white photos if I go to the black and white photos, you'll notice that there are couple that look kind of yellow. 19:29:23 These are actually scans out of a newspaper, and it was a the newspaper is 30 years old, so it's in sad shape. 19:29:33 So what can you do about that? If you open it up and you go to edit there's a edit button up here, among other things, you can have it do black and white, and there's an automatic button for an audit black and white, or you can do it. 19:29:44 Manually. Now look at the photograph as I move back and forth through these settings. 19:29:49 It's not going to do much, because black and white doesn't have that much to do. 19:29:53 But if I press auto it turns it into a black and white photo. 19:29:58 Does that automatically. It's no, it gets rid of all that yellows now, just black and white, and if I don't like that, I can say reset adjustments, and it goes back to looking yellow. 19:30:06 But you can also do all kinds of other strange things, so you can. 19:30:10 You can. It's probably not gonna do that, because this is. 19:30:19 I can change what the, what, the level of orange or white is, and that photo, by coming up to the light options I can change the color settings here as well to change it from different ways. 19:30:37 But I really did. Wanted a black and white. So we're just gonna press that button. 19:30:41 Come up here and say done, and now it looks like the other black and white photos so that's one of the many things that you can do. 19:30:50 But there are other things that you can do, and for that I'm going to take a hey? 19:30:59 A real photo. 19:31:04 This is a submarine and health syncing, and there's nothing particularly wrong with it. 19:31:11 But I'm going to play with it anyway, so you can show you what to do. 19:31:14 Notice the color of the sky and the color of the boat. 19:31:18 If I come up here and say Otto, it'll see if it can do anything to to enhance the lighting of that. 19:31:25 It's probably not gonna make much of a change. So it made a little bit of a change. 19:31:29 But it's just a little bit of a change. 19:31:32 There's a bar here in the center. If I drag it back and forth it can turn it from late knee afternoon to noon to. 19:31:40 So if I wanted to look fully exposed. That's a good way to do that. 19:31:45 I just came here and picked it out, but I can also go back here and do this manually. 19:31:50 You can adjust brilliance and exposure. 19:31:53 Exposure means just letting more light in, and you notice that if I let more light in, it washes out the sky, which is probably not something I wanna do. 19:32:01 I can also do things like these shadows down here at the bottom of the submarine. 19:32:06 I wanna bring out the shadows so I can see more of the hull, and if I do this it lightens up just the shadows. 19:32:15 So I can see more of the hull, and if I do this it lightens up just the shadows. 19:32:18 Now, how does it know what a shad here? And it's brighter here, and darkness here. 19:32:20 So it just tries to make the stuff down to the bottom look more of the stuff at the top, and it doesn't very gradually and that's just built into photos. 19:32:31 You don't have to do anything particularly clever about it. 19:32:33 One thing that sometimes you have trouble is, you can't really tell what colorors something is, and there is a way to take care of that. 19:32:43 Where is that? Right? This second, okay. 19:32:51 White balance. White balance works by telling the computer that something is either white or gray, because the computer knows what white or gray is. 19:33:03 So if your hair were inside and you had a trungsten light, everyone looks like they're jaundiced in yellow, and by pointing to something that's white, it'll change the color of everything else, because it says I know that that's white. 19:33:18 So that helps correct the color for everything else. In this particular photo. 19:33:21 Not too much really needed to be done, but wanted to show you how those controls work. And I'm going to import a a program that's in really sad shape. 19:33:44 Now some things to note. This is a 137.2 MB photographs and it says I already have it. 19:33:53 I don't care. Import it again. 19:33:57 This is a photograph of Trinity, United Methodist Church. 19:34:03 Here in swim. It was taken sometime before the year 2,000, and I know that because it's got this bell tower that doesn't exist anymore. 19:34:11 The bell tower, the church open, and I think, 1989. 19:34:17 Something like that, and the bell tower was very poorly constructed, and it lasted about 10 years, and then it rotted out so it had to be dismantled. 19:34:27 So this is an older photograph, and this is a damaged photograph. 19:34:31 You'll see in a second what I mean about that, and it's under exposed. 19:34:37 And it's got all kinds of problems. So we're gonna say that we're gonna and the first thing we're gonna do is go up here to the top. 19:34:46 And one of the things it says under light. It says, auto, I press auto and look at the colors on the screen. 19:34:52 It made everything a bit brighter automatically. And if I say color it'll also adjust the color the same way. 19:35:00 But it didn't do as much as I want. It's still very dark. 19:35:04 I can change that by changing the exposure, and if I do the exposure, you can actually see that the grass is beginning to look a little on the green side. 19:35:15 But you'll also notice that the sky is washing now. 19:35:19 So instead of doing that, I gotta move that back. And I'm gonna do what I did before I'm going to move the shadows and going to raise the shadows. 19:35:27 And by raising the shadows, I'm actually see that the grass is green, so that's a step in the right direction. 19:35:37 This was scanning from a photograph from when I stand it you'll see that there's a whites right side, and that's because it picked up part of the scanner. 19:35:48 So I'm going to crop it. And there's a controller here at the top. 19:35:53 Say, crop, and I can just pull in on the side here and crop out the parts that I don't want there's a little bit over here, too, and then, when I'm done, I press the return key, and I got rid of that edge there and I didn't mean to go back I undid 19:36:11 it. So let's go back here. Crap that again! 19:36:19 And little bit over here. 19:36:30 You can also pull from the corners, but if you look at this, it also has something up here. 19:36:37 It says, straighten, what does that do? This is something that normally you'd have to do in Photoshop it creates a grid. 19:36:46 And then I slowly straighten it so that it looks more like it's supposed to do and say done. 19:36:56 And and it I was done a little bit too seriously. 19:37:00 This. This is the one that I was playing with earlier, and this is the one I was playing with. 19:37:06 No, that's the old one. You'll notice that. 19:37:10 It didn't straighten it because I pressed the wrong button. So let's go to crop and straighten. 19:37:23 Okay? And it went back. Why is it undoing? 19:37:34 Adjust. 19:37:38 Something to note when when you straighten photos, you're going to lose the edges. 19:37:52 And that's because photographs are always going to be rectangular or square, and if you tilt it it's going to have to shrink. 19:37:59 The photo to get rid of the corners that aren't in the picture anymore. 19:38:05 So, we've we've done quite a bit of work here to make that look better. 19:38:11 One of the things, though, that you can also do is you can go to. 19:38:17 No. Where is the retouch thing? Retouch I'm going to retouch. 19:38:23 If you look at the bottom of the screen I'm holding down the command key and the plus sign to zoom in, you'll notice all these little white spots, these white spots are essentially dust that is appearing and I'm not gonna get rid of them all because it would take too long. 19:38:39 So I'm just gonna kill off some of them. 19:38:42 If you had infinite amounts of patience, you could go and get rid of all of this. 19:38:47 But this allows you to to retouch the I also. 19:38:55 I can move the size up a bit. 19:39:00 When you do this, how is it? How is it fixing this? 19:39:05 You'll notice that if I pick something like this you don't see a spot there anymore. 19:39:11 How did it get rid of the spot? 19:39:17 This. The white spot in the center is the part that's being touched and that circle around it is the stuff around it. 19:39:25 And what it's doing is, it's evening out. 19:39:27 The photograph, using colors and patterns from around it. 19:39:32 So you're not. You're not really revealing the grass behind it. 19:39:35 You're pulling a magic trick, and I can do it. 19:39:39 It's a little prop might be easy to see here on the on the roof. 19:39:43 If I click this white spot, it's gone, and it just filled in from the from the rooftop around it. 19:39:50 Now, if I zoom out a bit, you probably won't notice that much difference, because I didn't get rid of that. 19:39:56 Many but it's a little bit cleaner down here. 19:40:00 These are all things that you can do with with the editing tools and and photos and if I look at this one compared to the original, you'll see it's straighter. It's brighter. 19:40:14 You can actually see that there's grass and that's a lot of things to do well, I'm now going to exort this and as I export it, this was originally a Tif image. 19:40:27 That's a test stands for tagged image file format. 19:40:31 And just. It's one of the original image formats, and they tend to be huge. 19:40:36 And this one was a 137 MB. 19:40:40 So I'm going to export it, and when I export it I can specify whether it's what I want it to be. 19:40:46 I can have it. Be a Tif a Jpeg. 19:40:48 Or a Png. I'm going to say it's a Jpeg. 19:40:50 And I say export, and it wants me to tell me where it's going to export and gotta export it to the desktop, and it exports it to the desktop, and then we're going to leave here. 19:41:10 That's not far as from this one. 19:41:22 I'm doing a get info coming up here to the apple menu, I'm saying, get info! 19:41:30 And the original file was a 137,218,014 Byte, and this one is 5,511,285 still pretty big. 19:41:45 But it's much, much smaller, and it looks better. And so now I'm going to double click on it, and it should open up preview. 19:41:55 Open Preview. 19:41:59 Okay. It's open and preview preview is you normally use it for all kinds of things. 19:42:05 But it also has a photo editing capabilities. 19:42:08 So I've got this file, and if I come up here under tools I can go to a just size. 19:42:14 Now this thing is done at 1,200 pixels per inch, which is really excessive. 19:42:23 Your screen, a normal screen resolution is 72 dots per inch. 19:42:30 That means there are 72 pixels per inch, going horizontally and vertically on your iphone. 19:42:36 It's something like 240, which is why your iphone looks pretty clear. 19:42:39 But when you're sending something as an email, 72 dots per inch is enough. 19:42:43 The other thing to think about. If I turn this pixels in from pixels to inches, you'll see that it says that this is 93 inches across in 61 inches high. 19:42:55 You probably don't want me to send you a photograph that's 93 inches across to look on your iphone photo screen. 19:43:04 Which is only a few inches across. So you can change that right here. 19:43:07 Just turn it back to pixels the maximum that you probably want to send something to somebody else through email is probably gonna be 1,500 pixels. 19:43:19 So I type in 1,500 pixels, 72 dots per inch. 19:43:22 I say, okay, and you see, it looks really small. But if you I'm still in preview, if you come up to view and you say actual size, and it's still larger than this frame will hold. 19:43:34 So we could even shrink it down a little bit more and say, Yeah, if you think about it, if it's 72 inches, if it's 72 pixels per inch if you're sending you something 8 and a half by 11 in sheet of 19:43:49 paper, and he made it 720. That's 10 inches across. 19:43:53 So, even if I made this 720 that still gonna be pretty good size and go back here, say, view size again. 19:44:03 Actual size, and that is the actual size. So it's that big. 19:44:06 And I can also undo it in case I decided that was too much. 19:44:09 So here's my. So here's my photograph. 19:44:12 Now, and I save it, and now, after making those changes, instead of being 5 and a half, megabytes, it's now 460,554 Byte. 19:44:25 So it's just it's it's a tiny, tiny fraction of the original size. 19:44:31 And yet, if you send it to someone, it's still a fairly good size. 19:44:36 Now I'm gonna show you something that does not come with your Mac, but it is free. 19:44:40 Okay. And this, a program called Image Optimum. I am A. G. 19:44:45 E optim, and I'm going to paste the address of the company in the chat window. 19:44:59 As soon as I find the chat window. 19:45:15 That's the web address. And this program image optimum is free and you can drag one or more pictures in a time. 19:45:24 You drag it in there, you let go, and it'll compress them. 19:45:28 So I tell it to compress this and this. 19:45:35 Photograph is now a 104,000 Byte, and it used to be over a 137 MB. 19:45:44 In other words, it's more than a 1,000 times smaller than it was before, and I highly recommend image optimum again. 19:45:53 It's free, but it allows you to take a bunch of photographs, shrink them down in preview to something that's usable by whoever you're sending it to, and then to make it even smaller, drag them onto image optimum dozens of photographs at once and it'll it'll Crunch 19:46:11 them down in size, and yet it doesn't really change the it doesn't change the way it looks. 19:46:18 It still looks the same as it did before it was it compressed it? And I'm not even going to bother to explain the mathematics. Just trust me that it works any questions about that. So far. 19:46:32 Cause. My next magic act is a little bit more complicated. 19:46:39 Oh, there's couple of things I was gonna mention in the question and answer session. 19:46:45 I forgot the end of this month is world backup Day, where you're supposed to backup your computer and a lot of things that people are should also backup at their passwords. 19:46:54 And I saw this cartoon, and it cracked. 19:46:57 Well, this meme, and it really cracked me up. 19:47:02 I just I can't tell you how how amused this made me. 19:47:15 The other thing I wanted to do was I wanted to show you a logo. 19:47:21 This logo. It's an apple's logo that they created as a screen saver screen for a new apple store that they opened up in Korea, but they published it on the apple Websites. 19:47:33 So I download it, and I just thought it was a really cool, graphic. 19:47:36 But they open up this new superstar in Korea, and the last thing I was gonna show you was something that I took. 19:47:44 This is a photograph I took of my television set. Kathleen and I were trying to watch the extraordinary attorney Wu, which is a Korean TV series on Netflix. 19:47:55 Only Netflix showed this image from a series called Punk on Earth, and it's a BBC fake documentary series where this woman is pretending to be. 19:48:08 This woman named Philip Philanomia Punk, and she goes to various places around the world to examine earth's history. 19:48:15 And she's an idiot and but it's she's an actor pretending to be an idiot, and it's really, really, really quite funky, although what it uses non. Pg. 19:48:26 Language and on occasion. But anyway, Netflix screwed up, and they're showing the summary of extraordinary Attorney Wu and showing a picture of a completely different show. 19:48:38 And I thought this was great. But one of the things you'll notice is that there's a picture of my wall. 19:48:43 You can't really tell us. My wall, but this black space above here is above the TV set. 19:48:47 So what can I do? With this space? Well, this is a good place to put a caption. 19:48:52 So let's go over here, and we say that's create a text. 19:48:59 I, found some web results. I can show them. If you ask. 19:49:03 Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, I don't want you to do that. 19:49:08 I went to add some text and it has a text box way down here and I don't want it down there. 19:49:13 I want it up there. So here's my text box. 19:49:17 And I type in net clicks, does it again. And it gave me this strange box because it's longer than it should've been. 19:49:32 So I'm gonna move it out this way and to select it and I'm going to change the right now. It's red. I don't want it to be red. 19:49:41 I want it to be. 19:49:53 And that's not it. 19:49:59 Anyway. You can. Oh, there it is! I want it to be what? 19:50:05 And I don't want it to be that I want it to be palatino, and I want it to be 60 points. 19:50:18 Okay. So here's my caption, and I've captioned that that photograph that I took of my TV set. 19:50:29 But it's also too large. So I want to also crap it. 19:50:32 So again using preview, I come along and I tell it that I want to crop something, and I do that just by dragging a box. 19:50:45 And then, after I drag my little box, I go up to to text edit, and I say and to preview and say, Crap! 19:50:55 And it crops it, and I did that in preview. 19:50:58 So I edited a photograph. I added text to it, and I didn't use anything other than preview didn't have to load it into photo or anything. 19:51:07 It's just it's just done with preview. 19:51:12 And now I'm going to show you one of the few photographs I have of my granddaughter. 19:51:20 This is my granddaughter going off to school in England, and there are very few photographs existing of her face, because she likes to run so almost anytime. 19:51:32 You see her? She's disappearing off in the distance, and you see the back of her head. 19:51:36 So I would recognize my granddaughter anywhere, just by the back of her head. 19:51:40 And this is, this is a nice photo, and I, first thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna drag it to my desktop, make a copy of it, because the next thing I'm going to do is a little bit on the dangerous side this is my granddaughter and i'm 19:51:53 going to. I'm going to remove her from the photograph sort of I come up here and I go to Preview Window. 19:52:06 And I say, remove background, and it makes a little sparkly thing. 19:52:10 Around her, and she gets well at all. Yeah. I removed her from the Coder. 19:52:17 I'm not gonna save this. And I'm going to save. 19:52:24 And I now have this picture of my granddaughter, and I'm going to drag the original photograph back again. 19:52:37 And then go to type on it. So I come up here and I say that I want to annotate it with text. 19:52:44 I get a text box again. I say. 19:52:49 Education. I probably wanted to make it even larger. So where was that? 19:52:59 Hmm! There you are! 19:53:06 Yeah, that's not enough. 19:53:10 That's good. 19:53:15 I take education, I put it right over my granddaughter. 19:53:18 Well, that isn't seem terribly nice so I'm gonna come here and I'm gonna say, I'm going to export this as a Png file and I'm going to name it. 19:53:30 Curve, 2. 19:53:36 And I'm going to take this one and gonna say, copy. 19:53:45 Paste! 19:53:50 And what I've done is I pasted my granddaughter over my granddaughter and the text now appears as if it's in the background. 19:53:59 I created a three-level photograph. There's the original photograph. 19:54:03 There's the text on top of that, and then there's the image that I captured out of it beforehand, and in order to do that I have to use a Png file, and the reason why I have to use a Png file is that a Png file has something to it called 19:54:23 an Alpha channel, and you don't care what an alpha channel is. 19:54:27 But a Png file can have multiple layers. So I have the original photograph is layer one. 19:54:35 The text is actually another layer. When I type that text over the top of it, I was creating another layer. 19:54:41 And then this photograph of my granddaughter, removed from the background is yet another one. 19:54:48 So I pasted this. I pasted her on top of the education. 19:54:55 And now looks like she's walking in front. She's walking up to the word education, and it wasn't there to begin with. 19:55:04 So it's just a it's a way of captioning photos in such a way that people look at and say, How did you do that? 19:55:11 You'll notice they do this all the time on TV when the weather people are, are there, and they're pointing to the weather map. 19:55:17 That weather map is actually just a large wall that's painted either green or blue, depending upon what equipment that they have. 19:55:24 And they're moving their hands around, and the only trick is that the producer has to make sure that the weather person is not wearing the same color, because if they are, and this happened a couple weeks ago one of the weather people on Channel 5, I think had on a dress a green dress that had the same color. 19:55:46 Green. In spots it had various little panels, and when she was moving back and forth you could see Mount Rain here through parts of parts of her dress, and that's because it was keen on that color to show what was in the background, and since it thought her dress was the background, it was 19:56:07 putting mount Rainier over the top of it, and that's how this is done. 19:56:11 It's doing something it's called an Alpha channel. And it keys on a particular color. 19:56:15 But in this particular case it heat on my granddaughter, and just to show you another one. 19:56:27 This again is my granddaughter, hey? Am I going to drag her out here? 19:56:35 And we're going to drag this picture of a balloon out here. 19:56:43 This is the famous Spotoon, and this is my granddaughter. 19:56:51 She just walked up on this railing and now she's jumping off of it, and a beam, and she's and she's jumping off of it, and I couldn't have done that when I was 20, and I she's completely fearless. 19:57:07 But anyway, I say that I want to remove the background for that, and yes, it's going to convert it to Pmg. 19:57:15 And there it is, and I'm going to save this. 19:57:22 And I'm going to convert this balloon to Png. 19:57:28 Say, save! 19:57:35 And. 19:57:39 Go back to granddaughter again and select this. 19:57:47 And paste it. Now, my granddaughter is jumping over the Chinese spy alone, and I'm not using any special software other than preview which comes with your with your Mac. 19:58:07 Nothing else was required. 19:58:14 Questions. 19:58:21 Could you do that again? 19:58:23 Yes, I can. 19:58:25 That was so cool. 19:58:32 Yes. 19:58:31 So for me, so like you're in your pictures. 19:58:36 You're in your photo library and you pick a picture and you save it. 19:58:43 Well, it's a little bit more complicated than that. 19:58:46 I'll I'll take a different picture. 19:58:50 Okay. 19:58:56 This is a why isn't not opening up? This is a dragon at Bouchard Gardens, and. 19:59:15 This is a picture of an elk. This is out towards. 19:59:25 Over me! 19:59:28 It out towards the coast. Some place there is elk in someone's backyard, and I'm going to put this dragon into that picture, and so how do I do that? 19:59:39 Well, I have to save the Elk as a Png, because it only works with Pngs. 19:59:47 So I just say to say, the alk is a png, and. 19:59:54 Then I have to do something with my dragon, and again I click on it. 20:00:00 So it has some idea of what it is. That, I think is my target. 20:00:04 I say, remove background, and, as I say, remove background. 20:00:08 It has this little lightning that goes around. What is going to remove, so that you have some idea that you're getting the right thing. 20:00:15 Say convert, yep, there's my dragon now, there's a little bit of artifact, cause it's tongue is kind of oh, that's a water coming out of his tongue. 20:00:25 So that's kind of a strange idea. But otherwise that's that's the Dragon, and I'm going to take my dragon, and I'm going to select it all and copy it. 20:00:42 And here's my elk, now the dragon is actually way too big. 20:00:49 So if I paste it in here, it's dragging kind of takes over. 20:00:53 But that's perfectly okay, because you know, he's a dragon, and if I wanted to, I could shrink him down. 20:01:00 Because again, remember, this is a layer, so I can shrink him, and I can put him in the background of this. 20:01:10 Elk so, or I could have done the other thing, or I could have had him in the back of the dragon in the background and put the elk in the front, and I couldn't do that the same way. 20:01:21 I could do a multi-step where I take out the elk, put the dragon in the background, paste the elk back over on top of the elk, so the dragon looks like it's behind the elk, but that's basically just playing with layers. 20:01:36 And you can shrink them and expand them, and do all kinds of things with them. 20:01:44 We're gonna have this elk over here threatening this other elk off in the distance. 20:01:51 But it's yeah. You're combining several photographs. 20:01:56 It's getting so easy to do this that if you see a photograph of Yo, yeah, like, President Bob Biden, shaking hands with Hitler, that's really easy to do. 20:02:08 Now, which is why you is why, among other things, you see so much fake news now, because it's so easy to doctor things like that. 20:02:18 But that was done, using nothing more complicated than then. Preview. 20:02:26 And. 20:02:26 Oh, I'm sorry! 20:02:30 Yes. 20:02:38 This new camera, called Pixel, and 8, when you could remove. 20:02:43 A person from the picture, and somehow the back ground gets recovered so that it looks like the person was never there. 20:02:54 Yes. 20:02:55 Is that possible in preview? 20:02:58 It's not possible in preview. It might be possible, using. 20:03:05 Now there are a whole bunch of steps to this. If you have a Google one account and a Google one is a paid Google account. 20:03:14 If you have a Google one account, they've added some of those pixel tools to Google photos. 20:03:23 But it'll only show up if you a have Google one. 20:03:29 And you're using Google photo if you're photographs are in Google photos. 20:03:34 And when I say some of them I haven't really explored all of them. 20:03:36 But I do want to talk about it a bit about what the trade-offs are when I did this bit of manipulation here with my granddaughter, and so on, so forth. 20:03:45 None of this information got sent to Apple. It was all done on my computer. 20:03:51 If you have an older, Mac is, some of it has to be sent to apple, because unless you have an apple sellicon processor, it doesn't have some of the the apple silicon machines have something called a graphical processor in it and my particular machine's got like 24 of them. 20:04:10 So if you have an older machine that can run Ventura, you can still do this, but it's gonna have to send some information back to Apple. 20:04:20 Not much, but some with Google. It sends pretty much all that information back to Google. 20:04:25 So that's one disadvantage in terms of just privacy, like, for example, you notice, I didn't show you any photographs of my granddaughter's face. 20:04:34 Why? Because her mother, my daughter, insists that we don't not do that. 20:04:38 She says that by the time her daughter's reaches age of maturity, her daughter should be able to decide how she wants to be exposed to the world, and so she just doesn't take, she doesn't allow me to take photographs to publish photographs of her face and 20:04:58 that's a privacy. Insecurities concerned. 20:05:02 And Google doesn't do that when you play these tricks with Google photos or with the Pixel, it's sending that information back to Google. 20:05:21 Oh, okay. 20:05:12 It is suspected that Google is crowdsourcing information for the background from other photos that were taken in an area and adding it in and and recently an issue came up. 20:05:28 And it's gotten a whole bunch of play in the technical press, and I even saw one of the national news channels. 20:05:33 Had it talking about the some snap, something around there. 20:05:45 Their latest phone has a 100 times digital zoom. 20:05:48 Well, let me tell you something about a digital zoom. 20:05:51 If I zoom in on this picture, and I do it enough. 20:05:55 It's starts to look really fuzzy. It doesn't look much like an elk anymore. 20:06:01 And that's only about so 10 times zoom with a 100 digital zoom, you basically end up with something that looks very noisy. 20:06:12 So if you take a picture of a of an elk, that's 500 feet away. 20:06:17 With that, with that Samson phone, you end up with a fuzzy picture of an elk. 20:06:23 It'll just be larger on your screen, but it's still really fudge. 20:06:25 It's fuzzy. Well, Samsung was running ads, showing people taking pictures of the moon and looking really crisp. 20:06:32 So some people got together and thought, Huh! How did they do that? 20:06:36 Samsung created a database of moon photos. 20:06:40 So when you take this fuzzy picture of a two-thirds fold moon, Samsung sends a picture back to its computers, and they say, Oh, let's fill in the blanks from our database of 2 thirds. 20:06:52 Photo, of 2 thirds, photos of the moon. And you end up with this really nice Chris photo of the moon on your phone, except that it really wasn't what your what your phone took. 20:07:05 Alright! 20:07:05 It was, it was added, it was added artificially, and I was suspicious. 20:07:14 Other people were suspicious, and so they tested it by putting the phone into a an electronic kind of durable cage so they can measure the electronic signals going out. 20:07:27 And they saw that it was contacting Samsung, and it was downloading. 20:07:31 This information to create this photograph. So it's very clever. 20:07:35 But it's not really a photograph taken with your phone. 20:07:41 And yes. 20:07:46 Yes. 20:07:39 So, Lawrence, back to the Png files that you created. 20:07:50 How do you get rid of the layers? If if you wanted to say print it? 20:07:55 I think they, once you save it. It's embedded in there like I close this. 20:08:02 It's all just one layer. Now. There are. 20:08:03 Oh, but does it need to be called Png again? Still? 20:08:10 Or we, okay? 20:08:09 Oh, no, no! You can go back here. It's just the Png that there's a special thing about the format that I can export. 20:08:15 Right. 20:08:17 This is as a Jpeg. And save it as an hour. 20:08:22 I already have it as a Jpeg. Let's call it elk, or and now it's a Jpeg image again. 20:08:31 Just a jpeg of a elk with a dragon of, and a figure perfectly normal thing to have. 20:08:33 Okay. Alright. Yeah. Thank you. 20:08:37 Oh, but the pn. The Png is just part of of of the process that it has to be in that format, because Png allows layers. 20:08:50 Right. 20:08:46 If you were using something like adobe. Photoshop, you can retain layers in Photoshop, and you can rearrange them. 20:08:55 Right. 20:08:53 Preview is free. It doesn't have that ability. So it doesn't. 20:09:01 Right. 20:08:58 You can't do that, but in Photoshop you can actually retain the layers and save it as if so you could manipulate later on. 20:09:06 But Photoshop is like 500 bucks. So there's a difference between free and $500. 20:09:12 The most important thing that that of all the things that I showed you, to do, that the one thing that it was almost impossible to do until recently was straighten a photo. 20:09:22 You can straighten the photo and I'll show you this is a preview. And if you come up here and you want to rotate things. 20:09:29 Rotate them that way. Not terribly useful. You can also come up here, and you can say, flip horizontal and flip it backwards, and which, incidentally, this main. 20:09:45 This is not as silly a trick as you might think. 20:09:47 A lot of people they'll take photographs of themselves with their self, with their camera is Selfie. 20:09:53 And if they're wearing a logo or something, the logo is backwards, and now they have this picture with the logo permanently backwards. 20:09:59 The way to fix that is, just launch Preview and say, flip horizontal, and your logo that's backwards. 20:10:07 Will be slipped properly, but when it comes to rotation that's been really difficult. 20:09:24 Alright! 20:10:14 Because again, Photoshop is $500, and Photoshop lightroom, which is used by photographers, is 200 and with the new apple photos and the ability to to a straighten photographs to minutely straighten photographs, just think of that as a free 200 to 5 20:10:36 $100 extra that that you now have in photos, because one of the things as a photographer one of the things that really annoys me about photographs is people send me photographs all the time, and it looks like the land is sinking or there's an earthquake. 20:10:49 Or there's a tidal wave or something, and straightening photos has been really difficult until they incorporate and photo in photos. 20:10:58 And so you definitely want to. You definitely want to take advantage of that. 20:11:05 Any other questions? 20:11:08 I also want to show you something else that you might know the apple, several years ago came up with this atic technology. 20:11:19 And it's a much, much more advanced compression algorithm for photographs. 20:11:24 So here's a picture of of 3 deer, and I'm going to save it. 20:11:28 I'm gonna export it. And I'm gonna say, if it is a Jpeg, so I'm gonna save it as a Jpeg and I already have 3 derel, let's call it 3D 2 I don't know why I have probably cause I was going to do something with 20:11:47 it. Okay, here's the original photograph from Apple. 20:11:52 And this h h e, I see photograph. That's the extension. 20:11:58 Hgic is 1.4 MB. 20:12:02 Well, if I save it as a Jpeg, you'll see that it's twice that size. 20:12:10 And apple did this so they could cram. They were finding out that in a single day people were taking as much as a 1,000 photographs on their iphone, and they only had, like a 60 four- gigs of memory on their Iphone. 20:12:25 So they were filling up their iphone. They were complaining about it. 20:12:28 So Apple came up with this phone, this format, to compress the files, and it it compresses it losslessly, which is hard to explain. 20:12:40 But it means that they look really crisp, and that it means that they look really crisp, and that's the native format. 20:12:44 But then people started sending these photographs to their in-laws, and their in-laws said, I can't open the file. Why? 20:12:50 Because their phone, their their their their phone, or whatever couldn't read this new file format, that apple device. 20:13:00 So what do you do? You launch it in preview? You come up here to say export, and you pick the format you want, and anybody can see Jpeg, so pick that one. 20:13:13 What you should never pick is this one that, says Jpeg. 20:13:15 2,000. Don't ever pick that one Jpeg, 2,000 is for geographic information. 20:13:21 Hmm! 20:13:20 Systems. And if you know what a geographic information system is, then that's great. 20:13:25 But if you don't, you don't care but what always want to use Jpeg cause everybody can read Jpeg. 20:13:34 But that's precisely why I stuck that one in there. 20:13:38 I wanted to know that you can do that kind of transferation using just preview any other questions. 20:13:50 There's one other thing I want to show you. It's because I forgot about it, and it has nothing to do with the photography, and that is, I was playing with the Chat Gpts. 20:14:07 Some people asked me last time about chat Gpt, so I wanna show you a session that I had with Chat Gpt. 20:14:15 And I asked, Who is the writer named Lawrence? Eye Charters? 20:14:23 And that's me, Lawrence. I charters is an American writer, software developer who has authored several books in programming, including the Microsoft Visual Basic Net step by step and programming the Microsoft Windows driver model that entire paragraph is wrong I don't know who that lawrence 20:14:40 charges, but that's not me. However, the next one is mostly correct, and addition to his work as a writer charters has also been involved in the software industry for many years. 20:14:50 True, as worked as a software developer project manager and consultant. 20:14:54 He has expertise in various programming languages, including languages and technologies, including, and then half of this is wrong. 20:15:04 This third paragraph, though, is almost impossible. It's completely correct, charges also known for his involvement in the Science Fiction and Fantasy communities. 20:15:12 He has written several works of Science fiction. Actually, it's about Science Fiction and has served as an editor of various Science Fiction and fantasy publications. 20:15:20 That's true, did Lawrence, I try to ever work for the Seahawks newspaper. 20:15:26 It's a newspaper, not newsletter, and sketch chat. Gpt said something went wrong. 20:15:31 If this issue persists, blah blah, blah! And then it came. 20:15:35 It rebooted and came back, and it says, I'm not sure if Lawrence, Ichard has ever worked for the Cf. 20:15:40 Newspaper, and so then I said, Who is Kathleen Charter's? 20:15:45 Phd. And Kathleen Charters. Phd. Is an American author, educating research. 20:15:51 She has written several books and articles on various topics that related to education, technology, and literacy. 20:15:55 That's sort of right charges received her. Phd. 20:15:59 In language, literature, and technology from the University of California. Irvine, not true. 20:16:02 And as taught at several universities, true, including the in of Hawaii, Manoa, and California State University. 20:16:10 Fullerton, not true. Her research focuses on blah blah blah. 20:16:14 Then this third paragraph is mostly correct, it says she worked with educational software. 20:16:20 Digital media says, received grants to supporter research in that and so on. So forth. 20:16:27 So apparently with chat. Gpt, you have to at least go down 3 paragraphs before you get something that's mostly correct. 20:16:34 I asked, who's going to win the Ncaa. 20:16:35 Women's Basketball tournament and it says this, an AI model that's not allowed to do things like that. 20:16:42 Write a limerick on computer programming and Kenya, roose. Now remember, that's what I told it to. 20:16:47 There was a programmer from Perth, who's a coding skills, were quite an exert. 20:16:53 But one day he went astray and wrote a program for astray. 20:16:56 Now his coding was jumping like a kangaroo, alert. 20:17:03 It's pretty nice. 20:17:00 Not a great Limerick, but it is right a Limeric on apple watch meeting Android phone. 20:17:09 This one's really funny. And I'll watch. And Android phone met each other when they were alone, and they tried to connect. 20:17:16 But it was a reject. Now they communicate by tone. 20:17:19 It's not only true, but it's funny. Write a hikeu in Japanese. 20:17:25 So Rona Hiku in Japanese, and then it gave me a translation. 20:17:28 It's actually a famous haiku. So what Chat Gpt does is that it has a massive database of stuff that collected from the rep web, and you give it a prompt and it tries to come up with a response. 20:17:41 But, as you can see from my biography quite often, it's it's utter nonsense. 20:17:47 I was thinking that this might be how George Santos created his resume. 20:17:52 He just asked Chat Gpt to come up with random stuff, and it put it into a resume, and he went with it. 20:18:00 But if you want to know what Chat Gpt is right now, it's just an experiment, and it's difficult to get it to work correctly. 20:18:08 And it's really not useful, Google announced today that they're doing a beta test of their AI programs called Bart and I know this because they sent me an invitation. 20:18:22 But it doesn't. It's not available to the public yet, and I really can't tell you anything more about it. 20:18:28 But it's become an issue, not because anyone really needs an AI powered search engine. 20:18:35 It's become an issue. Because Microsoft was getting too much publicity. 20:18:40 So Google had to respond. Google's been working on their AI for about 5 years. 20:18:45 So it's nothing. Yes. 20:18:46 Loris, do you think, in your opinion, that Apple will use Chat? 20:18:53 Gpt. Is Siri. 20:18:55 No, I do. I'm positive they will not use Chat gpt, because they don't need to. 20:19:02 They have already got siri, and what they need to do is just add a little bit more artificial intelligence on the back end. 20:19:10 Apple's really really cautious about this, though they don't want to see a lot of the mistakes that Microsoft made. 20:19:17 People people were talking to. You have to remember that Chat Gpt learns from users as well as other things and some people got on there, and they started pretending that they were or maybe they weren't pretending they came up. 20:19:32 They started feeding extremist technology and such. And it turned chat. 20:19:38 Gpt parent, and it started saying, racist, sexist things, and said there was kind of fighting suicide, and so on. So forth. 20:19:46 And that's because it was learning that from the people who were, it was talking to Apple doesn't want to do that. 20:19:53 So Apple's going to be fairly cautious, but they've been working on AI. 20:19:58 Oh, for 10 years now! And consider, for example, that. 20:20:04 This is an iphone. If you could see it did not get blurred out. 20:20:08 This is an iphone and the iphone has as much power. 20:20:18 My, yeah, oh, Kathleen's not saying sorry about that. 20:20:28 Stop, share. The iphone has been the very first iphone had more power than a supercomputer, which is what they originally were doing. 20:20:40 The Artificial Intelligence programming on this iphone has about I'll equivalent of about 150 crate supercomputers inside of something that weighs 8 ounces. 20:20:53 I don't know how much it was, so that's a huge amount of power. 20:20:57 So the in terms of the computer power apple has the computer power. 20:21:02 The problem is the AI, that the learning algorithm coming up with a learning algorithm that is useful and doesn't make terrible mistakes. 20:21:14 They were asking chat, gpt health information, and it doesn't know your health insurance. 20:21:21 So it was either getting back very bland responses that made no sense to most people, or it was giving me overly a specific stuff that did not apply to the actual user who was asking the question. 20:21:36 And so Apple's very, very cautious, because it doesn't want to make these kind of mistakes, and on the good news bad news. 20:21:43 It's good that that Microsoft kind of stumbled because it taught Google and Apple to be much more cautious about that. 20:21:55 There's a huge amount of artificial intelligence in your phone already. 20:21:58 When I was doing that, pulling my daughter out of a granddaughter out of photograph and placing it into another, where we, drawing the the boundary that's called masking. 20:22:12 If I used Photoshop to perform that kind of masking, it would probably take me 10 h to do as good a job, and I didn't have to do this. 20:22:23 I just said, remove the background, and it did it so there's an awful lot of artificial intelligence, but that's for a very discrete task. 20:22:32 If you give it more general things like I can tell Siri to turn my TV on and off, because we have an apple TV, so I can tell it to do that. 20:22:42 I cannot get it to tell me to bring up Channel 5, which is kind of Cairo. 20:22:48 Whatever Channel 5 is among other things, it's not even called Channel 5 is, among other things, it's not even called Channel 5 anymore, because it's not broadcast TV. 20:22:54 I just think of it as Channel 5, because when I was a child it was Channel 5, and I still think of it that way. 20:23:00 So there's a there's a limit as to what what a generalized AI can do. 20:23:06 And so you it's Apple's been giving them very discreet tasks and say, Do this, my monitor, which is an apple monitor. 20:23:14 I told it to tune itself to the room, and it created a color palette that matches the lighting in my room. 20:23:21 Does that automatically. But that's something that engineers know how to do. 20:23:25 And all they had to do is just teach the intelligence in the machine to duplicate that when it comes to something that humans haven't done before it's gets it gets much trickier, or when it comes to giving advice like who to bet on and super bowl it should have enough sense to say i'm 20:23:42 not gonna give you that information apple doesn't want to get sued because it said, Go with the the jets. 20:23:51 I can guarantee the jets aren't gonna win. 20:23:53 So you know, yeah, they're gonna take this cautiously, and they're gonna be focused. It's amazing. 20:24:02 Sometimes what? I asked. I can't Kathleen and I were watching something we couldn't. 20:24:09 This actress seemed. 20:24:13 Really young, and yet it was, and we've seen her in movies forever, and she looked like she was 20 years old. 20:24:21 So I asked Sarah how old she was, and she just popped back up 43! 20:24:25 But if you think about it, that's a very discrete task. 20:24:29 That's it's easy for Siri. Somebody else is probably already asked that question, or it's something that it pops up as a first result in a search result. But if it's more, I'm ambiguous, Siri will tell you things like I've sent the results, to your apple. 20:24:44 Phone, okay, if I'm not looking at my apple phone, that's not terribly useful. 20:24:50 But it's a way of answering a question that it can't come up with a discussion that it can't come up with a discrete answer and that's the way Apple's been running their their artificial intelligence. 20:25:00 I realize that's a complicated answer to a question. 20:25:03 But sometimes that's the way it works. Any other questions. 20:25:11 Hi! 20:25:11 I have a duplicate photos. 20:25:22 Oh, I forgot to show you that the new photos gets ready to do well, it can get rid of. 20:25:28 Actually, I did show you. If you dump a bunch of photos into the new photos and you give it a day or 2 to digest. 20:25:36 What's happening is that you either have your phone and your computer both logged in, or something that you're getting feedback. 20:25:49 But anyway, the new, the new apple photos does fine duplicates, but you have to give it like if you import a bunch of photos, you have to give it overnight to digest on it, and it does a really good job. 20:26:05 Okay. 20:26:06 I cleaned up out of this one photo album, probably 200 GB worth of duplicates. 20:26:14 Can you explain that a little bit more thoroughly? 20:26:19 Yes, because at 1 point you said that there's really, truly no duplicate. 20:26:17 How it finds the duplicates or. 20:26:26 I said, there's really, truly no duplicate. 20:26:29 Right, you know, like, maybe something like I took a picture second one and then second, 2. 20:26:35 Oh! 20:26:35 I took another picture, and it's not necessarily truly a duplicate, but it's close enough. 20:26:39 Yes, yeah, those it will not call duplicates a duplicate really means it's the same file. 20:26:47 Okay. 20:26:46 And what it, what it checks for is, it checks the file name, it checks the date time stamp. 20:26:57 Okay. 20:26:53 When you look at a when you do a get info on a photograph, you'll see that it has a timestamp that goes down to the well. 20:27:03 Actually, it says it's it just shows it to the minute. 20:27:07 But when it stores that it actually stores it down to the second, so it can tell if you take 2 pictures in a row a second apart, not only is the file name going to be different, but the timestamp is going to be different, but the timestamp is going to be different. 20:27:20 Yeah. 20:27:20 And if the timestamp is different, apples of apple photos will not think it's a duplicate. 20:27:24 So, but it looks at the the file, name the timestamp, the file size, the dimensions of the file, and that and I'll give you an example of this. 20:27:36 Say you have a photograph, and you took that on yesterday, and then you made a copy of the of the photograph, and then you cropped it like we were talking about here and you made a copy of the of the photograph and then you cropped it, like we were talking about here and you shrink it 20:27:54 down. Well, the file name and the timestamp are going to be similar, if not identical. 20:27:59 But the size is gonna be different. And at that point Apple's not gonna say it's a duplicate. 20:28:04 It's really paranoid about what it calls a duplicate. 20:28:06 It really does have to be a duplicate. It's really paranoid about what it calls a duplicate. 20:28:09 It really does have to be essentially that same file. And if it's the same file it'll flag it as a duplicate. 20:28:13 And you can just say I want that one, and not that one, and it'll get rid of them. 20:28:18 And like I said, in one case I found 200 GB worth of duplicates have found thousands of duplicates, and that happened when I had. 20:28:29 You can have multiple photos libraries. And I had. 20:28:35 I I was. Never mind. I had 2 photos libraries, and I sucked one into the other, and there were duplicates and I didn't know about it, but it found all the duplicates, and I got rid of them. 20:28:46 So it does a really good job. But you have to let it think about it overnight. 20:28:51 It needs to index all the photos and their characteristics. 20:28:56 If you, if you suck in a bunch of photos and you think their duplicates and go check immediately, it's not gonna find them. 20:29:04 It needs it. Take a while for my demo today. I deliberately had some duplicates, but I had to leave photos running for like an hour before it told me that. 20:29:15 It depends on how many photos you have and how many duplicates. 20:29:18 But it does really good job. 20:29:23 Any other questions? 20:29:27 What are we gonna do next month? 20:29:41 Kathleen has a list of what was just in the background. 20:29:52 She's in the past. She's gonna look that up. 20:29:53 But. 20:29:54 What about the guy that was going to do? A password? 20:29:58 One presentation. 20:29:59 I should contact him. He was. He was one of the producers of the recent musical at Olympic Theater Arts, and he was sucked up in that. 20:30:11 But. 20:30:14 Oh! Next month we're not gonna have a meeting. 20:30:20 Kathleen has just told me that next month I'm incent St. 20:30:24 Louis. 20:30:28 So we probably won't have one next month unless this other gentleman wants to run. 20:30:33 Run. But I'm gonna be in St. 20:30:36 Louis. So think about what you wanna do, and may, and send me an email or something. 20:30:48 He suggests that we could do it the next wait. 20:30:54 Let me look at my calendar. 20:30:57 I can't see my calendar here, cause I'm in the wrong user. 20:31:02 But yeah, either we push it back a week next month, or we put it off until May. 20:31:12 What's your or get somebody else to do it? 20:31:17 Let's just put it off till May. 20:31:20 Okay, that works for me. I shall send out a notice to that effect. 20:31:28 Any last questions? 20:31:33 Thank you. 20:31:33 I want to see. I went to see all of you create interesting fake photos, using masking in preview. 20:31:42 And you can send them to me, and I'll put them on the website. 20:31:44 Hmm! Thank you. Laurence. 20:31:50 Good night. 20:31:47 Thank you. Thank you. Good night.